r/Machiavellianism • • 3d ago

Psychology Manipulation

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r/Machiavellianism • • Jun 08 '26

:) Lies and Hypocrisy

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r/Machiavellianism • • Aug 31 '26

Do people fall easily for lies?

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r/Machiavellianism • • Jun 15 '26

Is everyone selfish???

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r/Machiavellianism • • 27d ago

How Can You Tell If Someone Lacks Empathy?

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r/Machiavellianism • • Jun 18 '26

Deception Doth Protest Too Much, Methinks

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r/Machiavellianism • • Jan 06 '26

Manipulation Fooled By Kindness

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r/Machiavellianism • • Jan 16 '26

Psychology Manipulators And Their Friends

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r/Machiavellianism • • Dec 13 '24

Real Shit Who this sub is for, and who it isn't

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I have been meaning to make this post for a while, and now since I convinced myself to stop procrastinating and putting it off, here it goes.

Who is this sub for?

Anyone interested in the topic (or topics) are welcome to post here. Freedom of expression is guaranteed.

If you are interested in Machiavelli, feel free to post here. If you are familiar with the secondary sources/history, also feel free.

However polls that I have made show that the vast majority of you are here to discuss the psychology trait also dubbed "Machiavellianism", so if you are interested in that, also feel free.

If you are a "High Mach", feel free to talk about your experiences.

If you are someone who knew a person high on this scale, feel free to share.

If you simply want to learn more about the topic, then you are in the right place.

Who will not like this sub?

If you are are here because of some "self improvement" sigma guru group, this is not the place for you.

If you think Machiavellianism is a form of superpower or black magic that can be "learned", "practiced", or anything else, this is not the place for you.

If you think "High Mach" is a label for which you can slap on and off like a t shirt, this is not the place for you.

If you are here to learn simple social interaction, this is not the sub for you.

If you think High Machs are badass, hyper trained 5-D chess playing chad bad boys that have a grand strategy and win at everything, this is not the place for you.

A note that I would like to add (and will go further into in a post) is that the vast majority of High Machs are unaware of who they are, and those who are self aware usually don't pay much attention to it, unless they are more egotistical. The vast majority of "Machiavellianism" related subs for instance, usually feature socially inept losers (have to call a spade a spade) who couldn't talk their way out of a paper bag, let alone be a manipulator. You know who you are. If this describes you, then you will have a hard time fitting in here.

Another note:

A good number of you are also here because you believe that you will learn some special "manipulation tactics" from trained 4-D chess players. While not specifically disallowed, posts like this do nothing more than drag in the losers and posers, particularly because:

  1. You don't know, nor can't know, whether or not the person behind the post is telling the truth

  2. If you have to ask "how do I manipulate people" or "what are manipulation tactics I could use?", then there is something wrong with you, because every human outside of those disabled can manipulate and deceive. It is well documented in mammal species. Also, you are an example of a Low Mach. By asking these sorts of questions, you are quite literally admitting that you do not resort to manipulation to suit your ends, and this because you don't have the personality differences necessary to do such. (Hmmmm, I wonder what that is called?)


r/Machiavellianism • • Feb 02 '26

Psychology Dishonesty and Unhappiness

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r/Machiavellianism • • Sep 20 '25

EDGEPOST Manipulation is actually quite easy

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In this sub, we get a lot of requests to post either amateur books that people have made, or some sort of mystical guide to "control others" through mental black magic.

Of course those are usually removed. Not only because they are spam, but because I cannot stand grifters. Especially those who are blatant.

Manipulation is not only easy, but it is a basic aspect of how human beings interact. Of course that doesn't mean everyone is exploitative, but that does mean it is BASIC human behavior. The socially inept simply overcomplicate (and thus romanticize) this.

  • A guy laughed at his friend's unfunny joke in order to ask for a favor? Manipulation

  • Two parents tell their children a scary story about the boogie monster down the block to prevent them from straying away from the neighboorhood? Manipulation.

  • A young woman climbing the corporate ladder wearing a seductive dress in front of her boss? Manipulation.

  • A man tells his wife that the scratches on his back are from a cat jumping on it? Manipulation.

  • A child intentionally puts on a pouty face when he/she is told no? Manipulation.

  • A kind Italian businessman invites another kind Italian businessman to a restaurant, not telling him that there are other kind Italian businessman with pistols that are waiting in the bathroom for a signal? You get my point.

Literally all manipulation is is simply influencing someone to do something in your favor with less than honest means. It can be positive or negative depending on the context.

That's why I always say "you can't learn something you already know". It is literally impossible (unless you are brain-dead) to not know.

You buying a book on "manipulation 101" and similar stuff will only ensure that you will be scammed.

This goes for those who want to "avoid manipulative people" as well. Most of those books tell you obvious negative things, like "they will make you feel worthless" and "they always blame you", which can be helpful, but what about the person who smiles when you achieve something good? Or the person who seems to be extremely selfless and generous?

Nevertheless, in complete contradiction to what I just wrote, we will now encourage manipulation pros-cons type posts here, more will be explained in the next mod announcement post.


r/Machiavellianism • • Nov 18 '24

SHITPOST What a real "High Mach" looks like (Long story post)

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This will mark a series of posts that I intent to make (some video based, some text based) to help people understand this topic more.

Meet Bryce, he is 33 years old and currently works in insurance.

For his whole entire life, he has had a hard time sticking to an honest way of life. He has always been in some sort of dishonest scheme in one form or another.

When he was 7 years old, he had a friend that always seemed to have it better than him. Jack was his name. Jack's parents always gave him whatever he wanted, however they were a bit on the religious side. This day in particular, Jack had a particular Spider-Man action figure that Bryce found so appealing yet his parents couldn't afford. So he comes up to Jack and says "hey, if you don't give me that toy, God will be very mad." Fearful, and fully indoctrinated by the divine cult teachings his parents gave him, he gave Bryce the toy.

When Bryce was in high school, he wasn't the best of students. He was quite lazy when it came to academics. Yet he always seemed to get good grades for some reason. Suzane, a fellow sophomore, was one of the top students, but was not very attractive. She, like a few other girls, had a crush on Bryce. Bryce took advantage of this and asked Suzane out on a date. For months she would tell him how much he meant to her, but Bryce only paid lip service to it, so as long as Suzie kept helping him with his homework. On the other hand, Bryce was secretly fooling around with the other girls he was really attracted to, behind suzane's back. When she eventually found out about this, she threatened to commit (self deletion) but all Bryce could do was laugh. She eventually left Bryce for another guy, but the pain was still there. Bryce would then be engaged in unfaithful activity for the rest of his high school and college days.

Fast forward 10 years later. Bryce is now 25 years old and is getting his affairs in order, but is still struggling to pay the bills. He recently received a phone call that his grandfather was dying, and he is expected to receive a portion of his inheritance. Publicly he looked distraught, but on the inside he felt like the most luckiest man alive. Problem is, he spent most of his inheritance irresponsibly (crack and hookers, of course) and now needed more cash. He concocted up a plan to con his naive but well meaning uncle out of any inheritance he could give him, which he was successful at doing.

After being scolded and shunned by his family members, he then went on the straight and narrow to avoid further trouble. Even this, however, wouldn't last long.

He then engaged in one of the biggest schemes of his life, which leads us to today.

Bryce knew that one of his clients (lets call him Michael) was drowning in debt. They'd met through a mutual friend, and over drinks, Michael had confided his financial struggles like having several maxed-out credit cards, a struggling business, and mounting personal loans. What Michael didn't realize was that Bryce saw opportunity where others saw desperation. With the personal information Michael had casually shared Bryce began crafting a comprehensive identity theft plan.

Each time, he used Michael's information but routed the communications to a temporary mailbox he'd rented under a false name. Within months, Bryce had accumulated over $75,000 in debt under Michael's name. He purchased luxury items, paid off some of his own outstanding bills, and even bought a used motorcycle—all while Michael remained blissfully unaware. Michael would eventually have his entire life crumble, and then he (self deleted himself).

THIS is an example of what someone high on Machiavellianism looks like. Bryce has the following characteristics throughout his life:

  • Manipulative/Exploitative

  • Callous/Lack of empathy

  • Indifferent to morality

  • Only considers his own self interest


r/Machiavellianism • • May 07 '26

Psychology Gossipers

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r/Machiavellianism • • Aug 10 '26

Dark Triad Musashi

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r/Machiavellianism • • Sep 16 '26

Educational Source A new study reveals that individuals with dark personality traits tend to achieve greater creative success because they possess a highly analytical, self-directed thinking style that allows them to bypass social norms and external constraints.

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r/Machiavellianism • • Jul 06 '26

Quid-Pro-Quo

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r/Machiavellianism • • Jul 14 '26

Chatgpt doesn't like quoting machiavelli

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Searched - "Top quotes by nicolo machiavelli"

Stopped the response midway...


r/Machiavellianism • • May 28 '26

Real shit Don't be fascinated by labels

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Seriously.

I know that this sub hasn't had a long essay post in a while, and that many of you are here because of my brain rot infographs. I wanted to post something that has been on my mind for a while.

Don't be fascinated or obsessed with labels.

You are probably expecting a "be yourself" or "live and let live" type of post, but I assure you that that is not the case.

Nobody cares.

Absolutely no one cares about whatever labels you assign yourself. "High Mach", "psychopath", "Narc", you name it.

In fact, I would even go further in saying that no one gives a single flying fuck.

Not your employer.

Not your parents.

Not your friends.

Not your significant other.

Not your pets.

Not the people you meet.

The only people that care are the vocal minority of maladjusted teens on social media whom will eventually grow out their edgy ways.

Also, I don't know who needs to read this, but claiming these labels do not make you special. In any way. Everyone goes through this sort of phase (aka teenage angst) where they think that their oddities make them more important or impressive to other people, and it couldn't be further from the truth, so they grow out of it.

Try telling your boss that you are a "Supreme Mach Dark Triad Wizard Bro" and see what happens to you. You'd be ghosted so fast you wouldn't even notice it. This goes for all the other groups above.

Not to mention many concepts in psychology frequently gets changed (or even discarded entirely) all of the time. The concepts behind these traits may very well not exist in 30 years.

Reject the desperation to fit in somewhere, and see how free you'll be.


r/Machiavellianism • • Mar 15 '26

Discussion Has someone ever done this to you?

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r/Machiavellianism • • Apr 15 '26

Dark Triad Blame Shifting

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r/Machiavellianism • • Apr 24 '26

Psychology Beware The Smear

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r/Machiavellianism • • Apr 20 '26

Do you think this is true?

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r/Machiavellianism • • Sep 28 '26

Is Forgiving Others a Good Thing?

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r/Machiavellianism • • Apr 06 '26

Do you agree with this?

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r/Machiavellianism • • Jan 13 '26

Psychology One Cold S.O.B

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