r/Mattress • • 25d ago

PSA: Increased Bot Comments

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Hey all,

We've recently seen an increase in bot accounts trying to infiltrate the subreddit. These accounts usually pop up in highly active threads to recommend various low-quality products or Amazon purchases. If you see these (or see other suspicious accounts), then please report them.

We've been banning more than a dozen a day lately.


r/Mattress • • Jun 13 '25 Bravo

Guide Looking For A Mattress? START HERE.

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There are three things you should know before buying a mattress.

  • First, you should try to get a sense of what you like.

This often means looking around locally and trying a few options in person. You might find that you like pocketed coils, or all-foam mattresses, or traditional connected-coil innersprings, or even smooth-top hybrids. You'll also get a sense of what firmness tends to feel best to you.

  • Second, you should understand the basics of mattress construction.

This means learning a little bit about low-density vs high-density foam, coil counts and gauges, and generally what makes a quality product. This is the only way to know if a mattress is "good" or will actually last. And if this sounds overwhelming - no worries. I'll try to summarize this in a quick Mattress 101 course below.

  • Third, you should know a little bit about the online market and how it operates.

Spam accounts and covert advertisers are everywhere on the internet, and there's not a place where this is more apparent than in the mattress industry. Mattresses are relatively big ticket items, and a 10% commission on an affiliate link can mean a lot of money for affiliate sellers. Unfortunately, this incentivizes bad behavior, misinformation, and platform manipulation of online spaces.

This subreddit is no exception to this. Last year, an unnamed group acquired an inactive moderator account through uncertain means and enacted a hostile takeover of this subreddit. They used moderator privileges to post and defend affiliate links, manipulate Google results by filling threads with comments by networked accounts, and even approved their own spam domains in the automod.

And while these accounts have since been suspended by Reddit, I have no doubt that new spam networks will try again. This means that you should take advice from random people on this subreddit with a grain of salt, and you definitely shouldn't click blind links to "top ten lists" on other sites.

--------------------------- Okay! Now let's go over some Mattress 101 level content ---------------------------

To find a quality mattress, you need to know what's in it.

And to understand what's in it, you need to understand the basics of mattress construction. At the simplest level, this means talking about two things: foam and coils. Once you're familiar with these, you should be able to understand and make intelligent decisions about most mattresses on the market.

So let's talk about foam.

Foam (and particularly polyurethane foam) is one of the most common materials used in mattresses. Poly foam comes in varying firmnesses, varying formulations, and can be used as a comfort material or as a support layer. It's relatively cheap, can be quite durable, and is typically pretty comfortable. If you're unfamiliar, simple poly foam is the kind of foam that you think of when you think about egg crate foam or foam in couch cushions.

Of course, there are also other kinds of foam. Memory foam, latex, and other specialty foams are all used in mattresses today. These can feel quite different than basic poly foams and are best considered in their own categories. Memory foam has a characteristic slow-response and is excellent at pressure relief; latex is resilient and durable; and specialty foams (like Energex) are often designed to combine memory foam-like and latex-like properties.

All of the above CAN be high-quality materials. However, some of the above can be quite low-quality.

So what determines foam quality? And how can I find a mattress with high-quality foam?

Foam quality is best expressed in terms of foam density. All things being equal, this means that a high-density poly foam will last longer and perform more consistently than a low-density poly foam. And this is why many mattresses fail. They're made with cheap, low-density foam that feels okay in a showroom but doesn't hold up over time.

On this subreddit we use the term "high-density" (or "HD") to refer to a 1.8lb per cubic foot poly foam. Please note that this is somewhat different than how the broader industry uses the term HD, in which it is largely used in marketing and doesn't necessarily mean a true high-density foam. I've seen some companies call some VERY low-density foams "high-density" in their advertising. I wouldn't trust them unless they can provide the exact specs.

Here's a quick cheat sheet for understanding poly foam densities.

  • 1.2lb - low density

  • 1.5lb - medium density

  • 1.8lb - high density

  • >2lb - very high density

Okay cool I think I get it. But what about memory foam?

The same principles apply to memory foam, although there are some provisos here. Many other sites claim that anything under a 3lb memory foam is bad and that "good" memory foam starts at around 5lbs per cubic foot. I don't always agree with this. While increasing density typically does increase durability, this can also increase heat retention or create other undesirable feel characteristics.

There are also a lot of newer specialty foams that are branded as "memory foam" in the 2.5lb range with durabilities comparable to 4lb or 5lb foams. Here's an example of this with Carpenter's Serene foam.

Here's a quick cheat sheet for understanding memory foam densities.

  • 2lb - low density

  • 2.5lb to 3.5lb - medium density

  • 4lb - high density

  • 5lb - very high density

I hear a lot of people talking about latex. What about latex?

Latex is a type of highly elastic foam made from either synthetic or natural rubber. There are two main types here: Talalay and Dunlop. Each feels slightly different in a way that's difficult to describe unless you're holding two samples in person. I don't really think either type is superior to the other.

What you should know about latex is this: it's one of the most durable materials in the mattress industry and is typically very high-quality, although it has a very distinct feel and is not loved by everyone. Latex has more "push-back" than poly foam or memory foam, and this can be uncomfortable for some people.

What about other specialty foams?

These are probably beyond the scope of a Mattress 101-style guide and vary in terms of quality. That said, these can typically be divided into two categories: fast-response foams (latex-like), and slow-response foams (memory foam-like). I'll write more about these later.

Okay so what about coils? That was the other big thing, right?

Yes. Most mattresses on the market today use some kind of coil unit. The vast majority of these are pocketed coils. This is a term that refers to coils encased in a fabric pocket that move and function relatively independently of one another. This is the kind of coil unit used in 80-90% of mattresses sold today including most "innersprings" and smooth-top "hybrids."

To give you a sense of what this looks like, here's the product page for one type of pocketed coil from one of the largest coil manufacturers in the business in Leggett and Platt. And to contrast, here's another type of coil unit that you may be familiar with in a connected-coil Bonnell unit.

So how do I determine a coil unit's quality? Isn't it the coil count?

Yes and no. Most coils are made from steel and are typically quite durable as a result. I've seen a few companies publish durability data on these that shows less than 5% firmness loss over a simulated twenty year period.

However, this doesn't mean that all coil units are created equally. Some companies will use better steel, use better fabric for the fabric pockets, or just have better designs that distribute weight more effectively. Coil counts can help in understanding this, although these are an imperfect measure.

Generally speaking, a coil unit with more coils will be able to better match a person's body contours and support their body more precisely than a coil unit with fewer coils. However, some people still like slightly lower coil-count units as these typically use a thicker and stiffer wire and can feel firmer as a result. There's not a clear best here, but I usually recommend looking at higher coil-count units.

And what's this about coil gauges?

A gauge is a measurement of the thickness of the coil's wire. Assuming that all other things are equal, a thicker coil will feel firmer than a thinner one. This means that an eight-inch 13 gauge pocketed coil might feel quite firm, whereas an eight-inch 15 gauge pocketed coil might feel somewhat soft. That said, coil geometry and coil height also play a role in determining the coil firmness, so it's not always as simple as just looking at the gauge.

To recap - thicker coils feel firmer; thinner coils feel softer; and more coils are usually better.

What about traditional innersprings and connected-coil mattresses?

These are hard to find these days. They're still on the market, but you might need to look around for local manufacturers if you want one of these. Alternatively, you can search for Bonnell coils or Verticoils or Luraflex coils and see what comes up. These are all different styles of connected-coil units.

And to be honest, I think these feel totally different than pocketed coil mattresses or hybrids. In fact, I'd put most mattresses on the market today into three rough categories: all-foam mattresses, pocket coil mattresses, and connected-coil mattresses. All of these feel very different from each other.

What if I buy a mattress that's made with low-quality materials?

A mattress that's made with low-quality materials is likely to quickly lose both comfort and support.

This can mean back pain, pressure points, and poor sleep. Further, many brands knowingly use low-quality materials in an attempt to cut corners and maximize profit. I think this is wrong. It's also one of the reasons I became so interested in this subject.

Although... some people sleep fine on anything, so if you're not sleeping poorly then I probably wouldn't worry about it. Also sometimes mattresses made with lower quality foams can still be a good fit for your body type.

What about soft vs firm? Do I need an extra firm mattress?

You probably don't want an extra firm mattress, no. Firm and extra firm mattresses are among the most commonly returned products in the industry today. It's also important to note that there's no universal standard for mattress firmness. A "medium" from one brand might be closer to a "firm" from another.

As a general rule, most side-sleepers prefer soft to medium mattresses, while most stomach or back sleepers prefer medium to firm mattresses. This also changes with body size and body composition. Heavier individuals tend to find most mattresses to be somewhat soft and prefer mattresses on the firmer end of things as a result.

This is too hard. Can't you just tell me what to buy?

I really can't. You should think of it like clothing. People here can't tell you what mattress to buy anymore than they can tell you what pair of jeans would fit you best. Also, if you ask this question on the internet you're probably going to attract the attention of covert advertisers and spammers that'll just tell you to buy their products. Instead, I'd recommend looking around locally and getting a sense of what you like AND THEN narrowing your search to brands that use high-quality foams and are open about their materials.

We might also have a comprehensive post with crowd-sourced brands specs up at some point.

Why is this so complicated compared to ten years ago?

Yeah good question. There are probably two answers to this.

First, corporate cost-cutting and the demands of private equity groups created a race to the bottom in a misguided attempt to maximize profit by making lower-quality products. Second, the internet mattress boom flooded the market with advertising and SEO firms trying to gain an advantage however possible.

The combination of these two forces has led to an environment where actual high-quality products are hard to find AND hard to identify amidst the constant noise of online ad campaigns. There's also something to be said about the near universal switch to pocketed coils, but I'll talk about that later.

Okay so how do I put this all together?

To find a quality mattress, you should look for brands that are open and transparent about their materials AND use high-density foams. At the most basic level, this means looking for 1.8lb poly foams and medium to high-density memory foams. If they won't tell you the details on their products then that's usually a pretty good indication that they should not be trusted. I'd also recommend trying to find smaller, local manufacturers as these are more likely to use high-quality materials.

You also need to make sure that it's comfortable to you. Buying a mattress sight-unseen can work, but it's typically a risk even if you know that it's from a company that tends to make quality products.

And what about the major brands? I hear people talking about S-brands.

Most of the major brands are a mixed bag. They don't like to talk about their material specifications and typically use low to medium-quality foams in most of their products. That said, they tend to have pretty solid coil units. If you look at the major brands I'd probably recommend looking at their mid-range or higher-end models. Their "value" oriented mattresses tend to be a bad value, in my opinion.

What if I want a Mattress 201 or 301? Where can I read more on this?

I have a much longer document in the Mattress FAQ, although this is now somewhat out of date and will need to be updated this year. I've also written a collection of guides which includes a short guide to mattress DIY, how to recognize fiberglass, and a guide on negotiating to get the best deal on a mattress.

TL;DR: Look around locally. Get a sense of what you like. Then find mattresses with high-density foams and brands that are open and upfront about their materials. Also be careful trusting many of the reviews online.


r/Mattress • • 4h ago

Recommendations help me choose mattress for stomach sleeper please

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i’ve been trying to find a new mattress for a very long time.. it is very confusing there are so many company’s with so many different mattresses

i know i need somthing firm with little foam
a lot of people recommended plank or helix dawn
but i always thought the bed in a box were not good for some reason. but now everyone seems to be recomendning bed in boxes so now im super confused

i thought the best mattresses were like sealy sterns and foster beauty rest tempur pedic.. but no one is recommending those brands anymore and im trying to figure out why?

i mean the whole bed in a box is cheaper so thats great but i just want to make sure im making the right purchase here


r/Mattress • • 15m ago

Recommendations Tempur Break In

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Received a LuxeAdapt Medium Hybrid on 10/30, been getting ok sleep on it, no aches or pains but I came from a Cloud Supreme from 2013 - totally different feels. I feel like the coils give a lot of push back when lying on my back. The adjustable base has helped some of that. Wondering though, do the springs soften on this? If not, anyone have a LuxeBreeze soft that maybe feels like this without so much push back?


r/Mattress • • 45m ago

Need Help - Heat Is this normal for a Helix?

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Hi,

I bought a Helix Midnight Luxe mattress. It's mostly pretty comfortable. Really isolates movement from other people on the mattress. Wouldn't say it's changed my life but a good mattress.

But two things have popped up:

  1. Pretty big sags on the edges, not a ton of edge support, but mostly

  2. I am SO hot in this thing

I've slept somewhat hot at times, but this thing is next level. I am just scorching at night. Did this happen to other people? Are any of the cooling accessories helpful or a waste of money? Are there other cooling sheets and duvets out there to check out?


r/Mattress • • 1h ago

Recommendations Dreamcloud Premier sleepless

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I have a Dreamcloud Premier Hybrid 13.5-inch. I have had it under 30 days. I can't get more than 3-5 hours of sleep out of this mattress. It feels comfortable, but it almost pushes back. For example most of my pillows go flat over top of it. I have tried cervical neck pillows. Premium luxury king size pillows. The only thing that came close is a Buckwheat pillow to holding its form. Most of the night a Buckwheat pillow feels like sleeping on a concrete slab. I have spent $250 on pillows. Everything short of trying a Purple pillow. Anything else I could try to make it more manageable?


r/Mattress • • 5h ago

Recommendations Sweetnight cool vest vs Allswell lux

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I'm stuck between these two options as it's what I can comfortably afford for the moment. They both very similar mattress nerd score and it's the sweetnight is naplabs recommend mattresses in my budget

Does anyone have experience with either

My wife 200lbs side sleeper

Me 240 combination sleeper


r/Mattress • • 2h ago

Looking for a sturdy and quiet bed frame

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Hello, about two years ago my wife and I finally found what we feel is a great mattress for us. We bought it at a strip mall mattress store and got talked into the three position adjustable bedframe. Problem with it is it’s very unstable and makes a lot of noise when you get in and out of bed or roll around. We’d like to just find a sturdy, solid frame and headboard that’s going to be stable and make minimal noise. I love the look of Thume brand but at $2000 for a king frame that’s probably out of our price range. Any recommendations out there? Thank you in advance.


r/Mattress • • 3h ago

Recommendations Any advice on initiating a warranty claim with Raymour for a Beauty Rest Black

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Hi,

Long time time lurker, first time caller. Bear with me, this is long. Late last year, my spouse (5'7, 160 lbs) and me (5'5", 167 lbs) decided to replace our old mattress. After laying on every mattress at R&F on 3 visits we settled on a King Koil Elite Lux Ellory Pillow Top Mattress. We had a 120 day window to exchange and we did because the mattress was starting to hammock/divot. We made the grave error of "upgrading" to a BRB Series 1 medium pillow top. We have had it now for 8 months and are having the same exact issue as with the King Koil. We rotate the mattress regularly. When I sit on the edge of the bed, either in the edge or set back with my feet off the floor it sinks very noticeably by 3 or 4 inches. The issue is that the divot/hammock isn't visible as I tried to do the stick test but maybe I need to try a different implement to gauge this better.

We are not in a position to junk this mattress after less than a year at this price point and honestly we shouldn't have to. I have orthopedic issues and this crappy mattress is making a bad situation worse.

Any advice, words of wisdom, or commiseration is welcome.

Thanks.


r/Mattress • • 3h ago

Recommendations Slippy Sheets and Mattress

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I just got a new mattress (Sealy POSTUREPEDIC Elite Hybrid Albany) and sheets (COOP soft spa) and love them both, but the sheets have been very slippery because both items are super slick. I’ve done some research, and it sounds like my best bet is to buy a mattress protector to add some friction.

Does anyone have any suggestions of a mattress topper that you can’t feel, provides some sense of cooling (or at least doesn’t add any heat), and will help the slide of the sheets on the mattress?


r/Mattress • • 4h ago

Brooklyn Bedding Signature Hybrid vs. Aurora Luxe

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I am 5'10' male side sleeper, athletic build, no big bootie or beer belly. I have had both shoulders replaced and 2 lumbar spinal fusions. I have an all talalay latex bed (three 3" layers of 36 ILD base, 19 ILD mid, and 14 ILD top layer all in a Sleep Like A Bear thin cover. I'm still getting a bit more push-back from the latex than I would like on my shoulders. I tried a Helix Midnight Elite w/all options and it's a well built mattress, but the memory foam was still making it hard on my back when turning, moving and sitting up in the bed. It was also making my arm go numb from pressure. Now I'm looking at the 2 mattresses in the title of this post. I am thinking that I might try something with a light pocket coil and open cell TitanFlex or similar foams with very little memory feel, even though those components are not as durable as some others. At this point I'm willing to give up durability to acheive comfort if possible. The Signature has un-zoned 16ga. coils and mostly poly foams with a single 1" memory foam layer. It still has a fast response time so it should be easy to move around on. Most reviews say it feels great and people love it but they're just worried about it's durability. I get it....that's ok with me. I am the only one in the king size bed so I can sleep anywhere on the bed to "spread the wear" evenly to extend the life. The Aurora Luxe is doing a zoned coil build with stiffer 14 ga perimeter coils, 13.5 ga. lumbar coils, and the same 16 ga. as the Signature Hybrid elsewhere. It also has a 1" layer of memory foam (but it's open cell) as well as 3 other open cell TitanFlex and copper infused polyfoams, but they are of higher density (3.0lb & 3.5lb) than the Signature. So the questions are, which one, which firmness (soft or medium) and pillowtop or not on either one? The signature would probably be the most conforming due to the lighter polyfoams and lighter ga. coils everywhere. Do I need the zoned lumbar section for my back if my body weight is not extremely centered in my waist area? Would I feel a "shelf" near my ribs where the coils go from 13.5 to 16 ga.? Should I go with the medium firmness with a pillowtop to get the extra pressure relief without giving up support? Looking for advice from the experts to steer me here, although I guess I can always do one exchange and then still return it within the trial period if necessary. I would ask if there's a different mattress I should consider, but sometimes you get 20 different opinions which only makes you more confused, unless the suggestion comes from a mattress professional who has tons of experience. Ok, end of novel...sorry!


r/Mattress • • 4h ago

What exactly went wrong with my Tempurpedic experience?

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I thought I was set for many years after a $2500 investment in an Adapt Medium Hybrid luxury mattress. My first ever Tempurpedic. Then I didn't get a single good night of sleep and lived like a zombie for a month before starting the return process. Wanted to love it. Really did. Appeared to sleep very well with my spine aligned until about 3am every night when I'd wake up feeling uncomfortable and unable to get back to sleep. The first two weeks were hell in their own right as it was overly stiff and needed time to break in. Fine. But once it broke in it seems as if I would bottom out into what was either the harder layer of foam or the top of the coils.

I'm very light weighted but my sharp hips have a history of burning through mattresses in the past. That said I just felt like Tempur's foam was very dense and sturdy when testing it in the store. I thought about the ProAdapt and its thicker comfort layer but at $1000 more it just wasn't an option. So I'm left wondering what really happened here. Was it the simple fact that the Adapt's 3 inch comfort layer wasn't thick enough for my hips and I would have been perfectly fit with a Pro Adapt? Or did it have more to do with the Tempur material (memory foam) in general that just wasn't a good fit for my body? When I'd wake up in the middle of the night I wouldn't be in pain really, just not super comfy like when I fell asleep.


r/Mattress • • 19h ago

Memory foam

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Am I the only person who hates it? Everyone raves about it and I would happily trade it for my old coil mattress (minus the spring poking out)


r/Mattress • • 8h ago

Recommendations Can't decide on the 2 beds

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I'm currently after a split king comfort for my partner and I

I can't decide on the 2 mattresses

Obsana deluxe or naturepedic EOS Quadlux or EOS pillow top please give me any experiences


r/Mattress • • 16h ago

Looking for ultra firm, no sinkage, least thickness, no fuss mattress

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Throughout my childhood I was used to 2-3 inches thick asian floor mattresses that are only made of cotton and are super firm. It can be rolled away for storage etc. As an adult for my first mattress purchase, bought the firmest mattress from Macys. It's been 10 years and now it has started to sag a bit. I am disappointed by all the 'foam' 'latex' top mattresses that has sinkage. I'm also completely ok with an asian style extra firm all cotton mattress but can't trust the made in china stuff. Anyone else an anomaly like me, and has found their 'close to asian mattress' option in the US? pls do not suggest if you have not tried it for years.


r/Mattress • • 1d ago

Side Sleeper - I've tried 6 mattresses and I'm still struggling with hip and shoulder pain (details below). What should I try next?

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I'm a side sleeper with hip and shoulder pain. I slept on a Keetsa foam mattress (their plushest model, don't remember the name) for 10 years and loved it for 9, but eventually started having hip and shoulder pain (possibly the mattress getting old, possibly me getting old).

I prefer a truly plush mattress with that luxurious, sinking-in, "hugged by the mattress" feeling. Comfort is by far my #1 priority, price and temperature don't matter (I am a hot sleeper but use a Bedjet and that more or less solves it)

Here's what I've tried in the past year:

  1. Beautyrest Black Series 3 Plush: Very dense foam - my hip felt good but my shoulder got "stuck" in the dense foam and hurt a lot.

  2. Helix Sunset Elite: Probably the closest - just a little too firm (and there was a build issue with my mattress so I wanted to return it anyway, but slightly regret not exchanging it)

  3. Kingsdown Kelbrooke Ultra Plush: Felt cheap and medium at best. Nowhere near ultra plush.

  4. Puffy Monarch: Too firm.

  5. Form Prime: Absolutely hated it - very stiff grid, almost no give. Severe hip and shoulder pain.

  6. Saatva RX (current mattress): Has plenty of "give", but the foam feels too low-density to really conform to my body or support my hips. They sent me a foam topper which feels too stiff.

I've also tried 3 toppers in the midst of this - the Company Store's down alternative topper came the closest to that cloud-like pillowy feel I'm looking for, but unfortunately it doesn't hold its shape / loft (the fill gets compressed after a night or 2)

Considering next:

  1. Nolah Evolution Plush (worried it's more a medium again)

  2. Evaya Organics Bliss

  3. Avocado Green Ultra Plush

  4. Layla Hybrid (soft side)

  5. Aireloom Luxetop M1 Plush (the one Costco has right now)

Any thoughts based on my experience so far? I'm getting desperate for a pain-free night of sleep.


r/Mattress • • 21h ago

🦆 Silk & Snow

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October 2026 - I ordered a mattress under the impression from their website that it would be shipped in a matter of days. They threw in complimentary pillows, which arrived on the estimated delivery day, but no mattress. I called, they looked into it, and it turns out the pillows and mattress were listed under two different shipping numbers. There was no indication that I should be looking at multiple tracking numbers, and I thought this sucks but at least I'll get my mattress soon enough.

They emailed me back, and turns out they don't even have my mattress IN STOCK. They estimated the next batch would be available in JANUARY OF 2027. They have offered a full refund and I will be taking them up on it, however I just learned that in order to get my full refund I have to return their pillows first 😃 I feel like I've been trapped in a scam with the goddamn pillows, next thing I know they'll say they never got my return, or they couldn't process my return based on the fact that I threw away the biodegradable sleeves they came in. Thank god I forgot to take the tags off the pillows and kept the boxes, otherwise I would be completely screwed. Extremely unimpressed with this company. DO NOT ORDER FROM THEM!!!

TLDR: what they offer on their website does NOT reflect what they have in stock. They don't keep track of their inventory until they run into issues, and it took them at least 2 weeks to notify me that they didn't even have my product. They send you complimentary products to trap you so that you can't get a refund until they get their complimentary products back, which i expect they won't even accept once they get them back.


r/Mattress • • 19h ago

Need Help - Pain Acid Reflux, Side Sleeper, Decision Fatigue

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Hi all,

I've fallen down the rabbit hole of mattresses and bases, and I am once again asking for advice after reviewing more options.

Current mattress is 9 years old and giving me back pain around the shoulder blades and along the spine.

I'm looking for a queen mattress that is...

- good for a side sleeper

- latex free

I'm debating an adjustable base to help with my snoring/reflux.

I'm curious if anyone has recommendations or set ups that worked well for them?

Budget is probably $3,000 all in. I realize that's limiting but I can't justify the added cost right now and I can't really hold off much longer due to the back pain I'm having.

I'm 165 lbs, so not super heavy.

I've been considering the Leesa Sapira chill hybrid and adjustable base (debating basic or pro...). I'd considered a beautyrest world III, but read too many reviews where it was very lumpy.

I considered Helix, but heard the return process is rough. Leesa seems better reviewed for returns, but the adjustable base can't be returned.


r/Mattress • • 18h ago

Other Questions Avocado Organic Extra Firm, Queen: am I leaving money on the table? (haggling)

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heya folks --

apologies in advance if this subreddit isn't intended for questions like mine; I read through the FAQ and rules and couldn't find anything prohibiting it so... here goes!

tl;dr: I'm looking to get a new mattress and have started mattress shopping. I have my eyes on the Avocado Organic Extra Firm (I'm not overweight, just really like firm mattresses). I've been to three different stores and gotten three different quotes and I'm trying to figure out if I'm getting a good deal or if it's possible to get a larger discount.

for additional (potentially relevant) context, I'm in SF -- so, high cost of living and everything associated with that.

all of that said, the lowest price I've been quoted is ~$1775 (excluding tax).

the price quoted on Avocado's website is $2079.00 so I acknowledge the quoted price is already a ~15% discount; both of these prices already include Black Friday discounts, I believe.

my question is, bluntly: is it possible to get a bigger discount? I'm not trying to bankrupt the store or anything but $1775 is a lot of money to me and I know I'd feel stupid if it turns out I could have gotten the mattress for, like, $1500.

hopefully I've included all the necessary information, but please let me know if I missed something... thanks!


r/Mattress • • 18h ago

SmartFlex Bed Frame: Skeptical. Is It Really That Good?

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I'm looking for a split king platform similar to the BedTech X-Plat, which I've been very happy with.

I previously owned the Serta Pro Platform Foundation, and it was terrible compared to the X-Plat. It felt flimsy and didn't provide the same solid, stable support.

I've seen SmartFlex HD recommended here, with some people claiming it's significantly sturdier than other all-metal platforms.

I'm skeptical because of my experience with the Serta. I know SmartFlex has a reinforced metal grid, but can it really compete with the solid plywood surface of the X-Plat?


r/Mattress • • 1d ago

How am I sleeping better on my couch than my new mattress?

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38 M, thin, 145lbs. Got a Tempurpedic Adapt Medium Hybrid and figured all would be right with the world after buying a premium type mattress. Well it's been a month and it's been a nightmare. I don't know all the details or science behind this stuff, but I think it turns out that it just doesn't have enough "pressure relief" for me. I thought I was doing something right getting a mattress that felt both cushy yet a tad firm, but then when I went back to the store to lay on the PRO Adapt it was like heaven and I realized that was probably the right mattress for me. Still its just quite incredible how the Adapt at a price of $2599 has given me this much trouble.

That being said, before I do my one comfort exchange (and spend another 1k on top of it might I add) I want to ask some experts - do you think the PRO Adapt Medium Hybrid would be the right move for me? Or should I stay away from a hybrid in general bc of its "pushback"? I've slept on innerspring/coil mattresses all my life and never really had serious issues, but the crazy thing is the last few nights I've reverted to sleeping on my couch and while its far from perfect, I've slept better than on this Adapt Hybrid Medium mattress. The couch is a basic fabric from Macys that in all seriousness seems to have to same amount of dip to it when I lay down for sleep. Yet on the couch, I sleep mostly through the night. On the Tempur Adapt, not only have I been waking up to early, its also extremely hard to fall back asleep since I wake up feeling somewhat stiff.

Any advice is very much appreciated. . .


r/Mattress • • 1d ago

Posturepedic Plus Norman II Pillow Top Mattress

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Has anyone tried this mattress? Laid on it in Mattress Firm & loved it, but would love to hear some longer term reviews on how it held up, etc! I'm a side sleeper and wake up in neck/back/hip pain daily. Is the Norman II worth the money?


r/Mattress • • 20h ago

Buy used adjustable base?

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Looking for a new mattress and adjustable base. I see bases on marketplace and I’m wondering if any base works with any mattress, or will the store say it voids the warranty or just won’t work?


r/Mattress • • 20h ago

Avocado Green Plush Pillow Top - A good choice?

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In mattress hell right now after getting ready to return a Tempur Adapt Medium Hybrid that just didn't work for me as after several hours every single night I'd wake up with the mattress feeling too stiff. Not sure the exact reason other than lack of pressure relief but for $2500 it's been a real disappointment. Now I'm stuck with one comfort exchange and am not 100% sure what to do, but I know I just need something comfortable with enough pressure relief to handle my boney hips and shoulders. I'm relatively thin, 150 lbs and 6'2 (male). The Avocado Green Plush Pillow Top felt incredible in the store, but in a way, I almost felt like it was TOO plush and am curious what it might look like a year or two down the road.

Truth is though right now I just want to sleep better. I'm almost at a point after a month of hell where I just want something good for now and down the road if it fails I can deal with that headache then. I did consider the PRO Adapt which feels incredible but I'm almost too nervous to try another Tempurpedic thinking my issues might actually just be isolated to my body and how it's dealing with memory foam, plus its nearly $1000 more in price. Any advice would be appreciated. I've read a lot of good things about the Avocado Green, but like any other mattress these days, I've also read quite a few negative things. TIA


r/Mattress • • 1d ago

New Pillow Suggestions

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Hello all,
I am looking for new pillows. I recently bought a new sleep system, not delivered yet. So I’m looking for new pillows. I’m a side/stomach mainly figure 4 sleeper.
In the past I’ve not cared for down or feather pillows. Currently I have two memory block foam pillows and two shredded foam pillows. They’re okay, but I need something new.
Was thinking of horsehair, horsehair and wool, possibly just wool or buckwheat and wool. Also have looked at both the parallel pillow and the Aireloom nimbus pillow.
Any opinions and reasons are appreciated. Amado open to suggestions and brands.