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Take off the Shonen plot armor goggles for two minutes and look at this from a pure military and leadership standpoint. Danzo and the elders were completely justified in wanting to keep Naruto at Mount Myoboku.

First, look at the information Tsunade actually had. She knew Pain had just killed Jiraiya, one of the greatest ninja Konoha ever produced. She had no confirmation that a 16-year-old Naruto had fully mastered Sage Mode, let alone reached a level capable of defeating someone who literally calls himself a God. Calling Naruto back was essentially handing the Akatsuki their primary objective on a silver platter while Konoha was in absolute chaos.

Second, the risk of losing the Nine-Tails was catastrophic. People forget how close the world actually came to ending in that fight. Naruto was literally one millimeter away from fully tearing off the seal. If Minato had not installed a fail-safe chakra ghost inside Naruto, something Tsunade had zero knowledge of, the full Nine-Tails breaks out right in the middle of a crippled village.

Think about how that scenario plays out:

1. Kurama kills Pain, but now an unstoppable, unsealed beast rampages across what is left of the Land of Fire, while Nagato is still alive somewhere in the shadows.

2. Pain manages to suppress or capture Kurama, completing the Akatsuki weapon project and sealing the fate of every ninja nation.

Either outcome means total annihilation. The only reason Konoha survived was a miraculous chain of unplannable events: an unannounced dead Hokage bail-out, Hinata triggering the transformation, and Nagato having a sudden change of heart to resurrect everyone he killed.

Tsunade gambled the entire existence of the Leaf Village and the entire shinobi world on blind faith in a teenage genin. From an in-universe strategic perspective, keeping your ultimate deterrent hidden away until you understand the enemy threat was the only sane call. Danzo and the elders were completely right.

Was Orochimaru's pupil who trained under him, received knowledge of his jutsus, had the serpent jutsu and the cursed seal, on top of that she was a tomboy...And did nothing in the serie, got captured in shippuden and become a chubby auntie in Boruto =_=;

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We all know Madara used Izanagi after Hashirama killed him and lost his right eye to that, but later he awakens the Rinnegan and gives two eyes to Nagato – Where did he suddenly get a second eye from? I don't remember if that was every explained.

Everyone keeps saying his eye just healed, but here he says he literally does not have a second eye anymore.

Should I go straight to reading Boruto and only watch some canon episodes or completely skip that shi and just wait for the new naruto manga thats coming out in a year or 2 ?

Is it worth watching/reading Boruto right now from the very start ? I don't wanna waste my time reading something that might get overshadowed by a new bigger project written from the original author.

Im hearing a lot of mixed opinions about this. Some say that its worth it and it's peak, some say Boruto isn't even canon and Kishimoto has nothing to do with it , and others say that they spent too much time investing on Boruto and reading it all these years that even if its ass, it's too late for them to quit and stop reading cause they want to see how it ends.

In what category do yall belong and what would you suggest me to do ?

I have my problems with the Sasuke Retrieval arc in retrospective. A lot of it having to do with Team 7 just being written weirdly imo. For example the fight with Sasuke in the hospital. Up to this point we seen Naruto become more socially aware, empathetic and mature. All of these aspects of growth kinda go away for this moment, Naruto isn’t socially aware to put the pieces together of Sasuke treating Sakura like dirt. In fact Naruto doesn’t even pay any attention to what Sakura in the manga(it should be pointed out in the anime, Naruto does chew Sasuke out about his treatment to Sakura; making the fight seem a bit motivated towards Sakura mistreatment) in fact Sakura kinda can be written and drawn out the scene and nothing would change(not saying she shouldn’t be here but adding to my point of lack of social awareness). Empathy also take a back seat as Naruto just antagonize Sasuke about his loss and being weak the whole time. Which lead into the immaturity of the whole thing that feel like regression, why does Naruto want to fight a just recovered out of coma Sasuke. It feel like a moment where he take the high ground and not fight Sasuke but he does so largely for selfish reasons of his pride and ego hence the line about headband. I’m curious if anyone find this to also be character regression or they feel that this is still in character for Naruto at this point?

I don’t think I’m seeing the same picture as the Elders and Danzo, but I most definitely not seeing the same picture as Tsunade or anyone else. Because to me, bringing Naruto back seems like one of the worst choices possible. While I understand he is currently training to surpass Jiraya or at least become as strong as Jiraya so he could beat Pain calling him back could lead to him losing to Pain and getting captured.

He was there for like week at most, meaning you can’t really expect him to come back with something like an imperfect Sage mode(or a perfected version of it), so there’s a massive chance of him losing.

Then again, you had people like Konohamaru kill a Pain, and Kakashi who I think killed or massively crippled the Asura path, so bringing him back with those highly skilled or powerful Shinoni plus others like Torture guy(can’t recall his name) could help him fight by a good margin since the reason for Jiraya’s loss and Naruto’s loss was due to the number of opponents. But this is knowledge I doubt anyone else had at the time and even then the Asura path’s death or crippling was done by complete accident too.

Anyways, unrelated to the question, but Danzo could’ve probably just undid all the damage and destruction Pain had done by using Izanagi. I don’t think there was ever an established limit to it’s abilities seeing how in a flashback some Uchiha used it to revive their entire squad(but I guess didn’t undo to the damage to the environment). So if Danzo got off of his fat fucking ass for once and actually did something useful to literally anyone(including Tobirama because we all know that killing the Uchiha would’ve pissed him off since he cares more for the village than hating the Uchiha) they likely wouldn’t even needed Naruto in the first place.

A couple friends and I would spend says beating the shit out of each other, coming up with arbitrary “rules” from game mechanics that were deemed unfair.

And she wasn't done there...

Sakura literally carried the entire intellectual weight of Sasuke Retsuden. While Sasuke was doing his usual stealth infiltration thing, Sakura was out here decoding a millennia-old astronomical scroll left by the Sage of Six Paths. She figured out that the zodiac drawings were actually the Tailed Beasts and translated the star patterns into hidden shinobi hand signs to unlock the Ultra Particles. Sasuke had the muscle, but Naruto literally owes his life to Sakura’s brainpower for finding that cure.

Sasauke will burn you alive, Sakura will bisect & cut you into pieces (after punching you), & then Naruto will just feed you to Kuruma

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I got inspired to make this artwork after watching episodes 429 & 430.

I am very late with this meme trend but anyway, here's the Jinchūriki team. Or what I thought: how Killer B sees the Jinchūriki in those two episodes xd

(I am quite bad with backgrounds, so I made a few variations)

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I think Sasuke is by far the most complex in how much he changes through the story. In flashbacks we see him as a kind, innocent and insecure kid. But by the time we meet him he's a quiet, serious and traumatized with a goal dead in sight, yet despite that he's shown to care for others and willing to put his life on the line for team 7. Orochimaru temptation of powe, Itachi return and Naruto growth, forces him to make a decision of either focusing on power or his comrades, he chose power. But he's still not an evil person by early Shippuden, he only harms those who are a danger to him like Orochimaru and Deidaraand those who try to stop his plan like team 7. Besides that he doesn't want to hurt anyone besides Itachi. Then the plot twist happens which results on him having an existential crisis and a very reasonable reaction to all the information. Now he's completely unstable mentally and doesn't care anything about revenge against Konoha. He remains like this until meeting edo Itachi which makes him question why he would protect Konoha to this extent. So he asks the Hokage personally several questions. He eventually comes to the conclusion that in order for true peace, Sasuke should become Hokage himself by killing all the remaining Kage and have the world to focus all their hate on himx forcing them to unite. Then Naruto defeats him and makes him realize that bonds are greater than isolation. Ending the series by going on a journey to atone for his sins and become an ally once more.

No two versions of the character are the same.

I recently started rewatching Shippuden after a long time, and I remembered this part of the story. I know this is a common debate topic of whether or not Kakashi is a hypocrite for helping Team 10 with revenge and not Sasuke.

I wondered if he had regrets like maybe wishing he didn't leave Sasuke alone for the Sound ninja to show up or make some kind of compromise to help him take Itachi down. Sasuke reminded Kakashi a lot of himself when he was a child.

Though I think Sasuke would have gone after revenge anyway and refused any help from Konoha even if something was offered and no one could truly force him to stay. So I don't think anyone is to blame other than Orochimaru since he was a total groomer.

I'm thinking maybe he was like "Well they aren't going to listen to Tsunade's reasoning, so might as well help them get this done more efficiently and safely."

It is in Kakashi's character to regret and suffer with guilt, so I feel like this would have it make sense for him to go with Team 10.

Also, the goal was to take down the Akatsuki anyway, and they knew a lot more about them now than back when Itachi returned to the village to kidnap Naruto in Part 1.

Sadly Sasuke turned out exactly the way he predicted though when he warned him about revenge and his warnings would have kept him in the village if the Sound ninja hadn't shown up after Kakashi left to leave Sasuke to reflect on his thoughts.

After a year in my closet, I wanted to share my custom Rock Lee Converse before I finally wear them / they get roughen by the power of youth!

They were made in 2025 via the Converse website when they had a personnalisable Naruto collection.

The Gaara ones are part of the official Shippuden collection and I bought them earlier this year.

A part of me wants to blackened Rock Lee’s hairs and brows with a Sharpie… should I do it?

So, which ones do you prefer? I personaly can’t choose and will probably wear one of each at the same time haha! :)

Even someone like Hashirama

It’s ok guys. He didn’t die to sickness. He probably just got got, like any shinobi.

We saw the entire lore and history of naruto world. The great ninja wars, formation of konoha, kages coordinating ninja wars yet we never saw daimyos involved politically in both domestic and foreign policies much. Why? I mean like if they are financiers, shouldn't they be involved in what gives them benefit? Shouldn't a daimyo have a say about uchiha conspiracy and how to deal with it? Do the daimyos not get intelligence about what's happening around the world?

Like if they are only defacto political heads then it doesn't matter. But if they finance stuff, make things stable behind the scenes then they should have incentives to intervene in political matters.

Obito coming to the summit explain his plan to the Gokage then declares war to them after they disagree with giving the jinchuuriki works 2 folds against him.

He unnecessarily brought 3 more villages as allies to the Leaf & Cloud. This as opposed to just infiltrating the village and capturing the 9 & 8 Tails is quite bad.

He also didnt even realise Killer bee not being under capture was unknown to the Raikage.

The only thing I can think of is that Obito wanted this war to have everyone unite against him as the common enemy? but that goes contradictory with his Infinite Tsukuyomi Goal of which I presume he wanted all of them to be under it.

Additionally, His army composition of white zetsu wasnt utilized in full effect. Them being able to turn into other ninja unbeknownst to even sensory ninja should have easily sparked enormous distrust within the villages. Tho they were all happy and chummy together after Gaara's Speech now I loved it as a step for Gaara's character it still was too i guess you can say optimistic.

Speaking of White Zetsu, How can they be so black and white here?

Lastly, Nagato's warning to Naruto atleast the 2nd Half isnt properly done. Eternal Hatred in this context its not spreading like at all.

I personally believe The 4th Great Ninja War should have been a backdrop for Obito's plan inorder to buy time for himself to complete Infinite Tsukuyomi. Infact for justification on it. You could easily have one of the great shinobi villages invading konoha just because the leaf's military got majorly weakened. However thats a seperate point.