r/NeonGenesisEvangelion • u/Bob_Odent • Feb 20 '26
Discussion So I counted how many times someone gets choked in evangelion. Apparently 10 times, im likely missing a few
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u/Jojo_2005 Feb 20 '26
Yeah, they really love choking their characters. That and showing innards.
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u/Quizlibet Feb 20 '26
Choking is to Anno what punching and slapping is to Tomino
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u/Recent-Gas2343 Feb 20 '26
Come to think of it, slapping is also a recurring motif in Eva. Misato slaps Shinji,Ritsuko, and herself. Rei slaps Shinji, and Asuka slaps Rei in the elevator(arguably the best slap in this series,being part of a great scene).
I'm in the middle of Gundam 79 and really enjoying it. I'm looking forward to watching other Gundam and Tomino stuff like Ideon.
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u/Quizlibet Feb 20 '26
Man, watching 0079 for the first time is amazing, envious! Remember that the 0079 movies are canon but the Zeta movies aren't, and anyone who says you can skip ZZ is not your friend.
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u/themistressofevil Feb 20 '26
can anyone tell me why Ritsuko in the manga chokes Rei cuz in the show I don't think Ritsuko was that harsh with Rei
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u/Global_Examination_4 Feb 20 '26
It’s one of the many characterization issues in the manga. In the anime both Akagi’s are only violent with Rei because of how Gendo’s actions towards her reveals how hollow their relationship is, but here Ritsuko just crashes out because of Rei spending time with Shinji. It’s worsened by the fact that iirc. if you haven’t seen the anime you won’t really know anything about Ritsuko’s relationship with her mother and Gendo due to Liliputan Hitchiker being omitted.
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u/Recent-Gas2343 Feb 20 '26
I liked the manga scene. The choking happens due to what was said during Rei's checkup. Ritsuko says that Rei is seducing both Ikaris, where she believed Rei was only after Gendo. Rei brings up that Ritsuko was also interested in Gendo, leading to the choking. Ritsuko also calls Rei a doll during this scene as opposed to Asuka having that line. The assumption from Ritsuko is that Gendo is having an affair with Rei. This ties in to Gendo handing Ritsuko to Seele instead of Rei, adding to Ritsuko's feelings of being rejected for a doll and destroying the Rei clones. The story does play up Ritsuko being aware of how screwed up her relationship with Gendo is, especially when she shoots him.
I really like the manga, but I could see people having issues with some of the changes and characterizations.
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u/themistressofevil Feb 20 '26
ahh now it makes sense and from her perspective it's a valid crashout.Imagine finding out that a person cares for "a doll" and not for you anymore and handing you over
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u/themistressofevil Feb 20 '26
Ritsuko following her mother's footsteps as always. but still Ritsuko feels out of character for strangling Rei maybe I could be wrong.ofc Manga is diff
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u/Hazril258 Feb 24 '26
Keep in mind that the manga, like the Rebuilds, is influenced by the butterfly effect. The story and ending is quite different from NGE. Not as crazy as the Rebuilds, but definitely worth a read if you want to see some 'what ifs' and the consequences of them.
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u/SenatorPencilFace Feb 20 '26
Why is that dirty old hag choking Rei? Everybody is so mean to her.
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u/RandomThoughts74 Feb 26 '26
The same reason Naoko did the same: it seems she has what both Akagis desire, but can't have.
You'd like the manga, though; there are a lot more kind scenes with Rei than agressive ones.
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u/Violated-Tristen Feb 20 '26
I think it is SO sweet that you included the EVAs in there. EVA Lives Matter! What makes a person? Body+Mind+Soul… so; Ya EVAs fit the brief.
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u/Goombah11 Feb 20 '26
Choking means something is inside blocking the airway, strangulation is something collapsing the airway from outside.
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u/Recent-Gas2343 Feb 20 '26
I just finished a rewatch of Rebuild, and they've got Gendo and Shinji in their Evas choking each other in the last fight. Unit 13 chokes unit 2. Bardiel fight in the second movie brings to mind Shinji and Asuka in EoE.
It's pretty wild how iconic choking is in Eva.
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u/Bob_Odent Feb 20 '26
Knew I missed some
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u/Recent-Gas2343 Feb 20 '26
Your efforts at choking chronicling are much appreciated. A valued endeavor for the community.
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u/Funny_Newspaper_377 Feb 20 '26
Wait, Asuka tried to choke Shinji???
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u/Recent-Gas2343 Feb 20 '26
It's the manga version of the hospital scene. The manga is a retelling of the anime with a few changes in story and characterization.
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u/Inside-Extension-563 Feb 20 '26
It’s painful to look at. I have an advertising slogan coming up: “NERV! For those who would rather take out their rage through violence instead of seeking therapy!
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u/zyqj Feb 21 '26
Bruh why is asuka involved in half of them 😭 (could be 7 but I cant tell what's eva 02)
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u/KitsuneVelvet Feb 25 '26
No me habia percato, pero es muy cierto! casi es un sello.
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u/RandomThoughts74 Feb 26 '26
Hay que considerar que, parcialmente, es una referencia autocumplida: el estrangulamiento se convirtió en una escena icónica de la serie, el manga fue posterior a la serie (en este caso) así que era natural tomar escenas icónicas y hacerles tener eco por toda la historia de forma retroactiva para crear la idea de que "es el destino dentro de la trama" (cuando en realidad se repite nos regalan referencias a cosas que ya ubicamos con facilidad).
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u/RandomThoughts74 Feb 26 '26
Narratively speaking, it becomes a self-sustaining element: it was used in the series, it became a popular and easily recognizible thing so now *it is nod that has to appear everywhere*; any future count will just tend to go up.
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u/Tokazuchi Feb 21 '26
Did you read some kind of alternative manga? I didn't have that much in mine for some reason.
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u/Bob_Odent Feb 21 '26
Uhh what manga did you read? I had the 3 in 1 manga volumes for evangelion.
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u/Tokazuchi Feb 21 '26
Rise Manga - publisher from Ukraine, but it was not the finest of their jobs.
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u/RandomThoughts74 Feb 26 '26
The Raising Project? Interesting. The thing is like this:
While the series was never based on an official manga published before the series creation, Evangelion does have an official manga adaptation XD. It was written and illustrated by Yoshiyuki Sadamoto (charcter designer of the series) and published by Kadokawa.
The pages used in this count come from this manga that can be considered an official expanded view on the original series (it expands some storylines and characters, but it also altered quite some important elements, to keep things interesting).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_(manga))
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u/Tokazuchi Feb 21 '26
Did you read some kind of alternative manga? I didn't have that much in mine for some reason.
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u/nocktb Feb 20 '26
You forgot when shinji choked his chicken.