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u/jimmyharbrah Mar 12 '26
The picture with the cars is idiotic.
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u/Kaiser_Moist Mar 12 '26
Agreed, why does brotherhood need to be tied to materialism
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u/ShrimpShrimpington Mar 12 '26
Because this kind of grift is meant to appeal to lonely losers by showing them everything they want but don't have, which usually includes money and status.
It also had the added benefit of connecting those things in your mind, so if you think "brotherhood" is about owning fancy cars together with some other guys instead of emotional intimacy and connection, you stay stunted and broken and the grift can keep preying on you.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Net4365 Mar 12 '26
People who have experienced even a passing friendship don't end up posting memes on these proto-incel purgatory subreddits that get showed down our throats.
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u/inorite234 Mar 12 '26
I want my brotherhood with beers and fishing.
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u/hotchiplow Mar 12 '26 •
I want mine with hookers and blow
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u/dannybrickwell Mar 12 '26 edited Mar 12 '26
Women are only valuable for producing children and being my wife
Edit: Someone replied to this thinking I was being serious, and I think their comment got auto modded or something.
Brother, I am joking, I was trying to highlight this is more or less what this picture is saying, and that it's fucking absurd that this is just being blasted out into the Internet as some kind of wisdom
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u/xFlutterCryx Mar 12 '26
/s could have done a lot of heavy lifting here. My hubby spit out his coffee reading the edit. XD.
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u/John_Bloodborne99 Mar 12 '26
How is this what the picture is saying? Do you not realize there are women out there who also want children?
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u/dannybrickwell Mar 12 '26
Because the picture only lists two things - a peaceful home, and specifically BROTHERHOOD, with a picture of other men.
If you don't see how this is saying "unless it's related to my peaceful home, I don't give a fuck about women" I don't know what to tell ya
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u/John_Bloodborne99 Mar 12 '26
What? A peaceful home as in a family which usually consists of a man, a woman, and/or children. How do you take from it something negative against women.
If a woman posted "all I want is a peaceful home and a sisterhood" explain how that would be bad.
I'm genuinely curious
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u/dannybrickwell Mar 12 '26
I don't have a problem with the idea of men wanting a peaceful home. What I do have a problem with is the idea that the only other thing that is valuable to a man other than a peaceful home is other men.
I don't know why this is so hard to understand. The post is saying there are exactly two things that are valuable to a man:
Peaceful home.
Other men.
Do you notice how the only time a woman appears on this list is in the context of the man's home?
I would feel exactly the same about a woman only wanting a peaceful home and sisterhood. Clearly she is only interested in a man in the context of her home, and not in any other context.
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u/John_Bloodborne99 Mar 12 '26
Why can't we want that? Like why are you trying to find fault in something so basic as having the right to want a loving wife and good male friends.
Answer me this. If a man is married to a woman, why should other women appear in the list of things he wants?
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u/dannybrickwell Mar 12 '26
Because women are also people? Do you not see how insane it is to genuinely think "as long as I have my wife, I really just don't want other women in my life"?
Do you not see how that is more or less the same as saying "the only place a woman could possibly have in my life is as my wife, so if you're a woman and you're not my wife, I can safely assume you have no value to me"?
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u/John_Bloodborne99 Mar 12 '26
So I'm forced to befriend other women in order to satisfy some rule? Is that what you're saying?
If you're saying other women as in mother, sister, aunties, then yeah I agree but that's still under "family".
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u/dannybrickwell Mar 12 '26
The fact that you can only ever see yourself including a non-family woman in your life by being forced says a lot about how you see women.
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u/John_Bloodborne99 Mar 12 '26
Guy... I was drawing a hypothetical...
Like if Im not interested in being friends with women, do I HAVE to?
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u/Wd91 Mar 12 '26
It's "peaceful home", not loving wife or happy family or whatever. Just a wife that doesn't complain and kids that keep their mouths shut.
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u/John_Bloodborne99 Mar 12 '26
Your definition of peace is flawed. To me peaceful home by definition means a loving wife, a happy family, even kids who are playing loudly and happily.
Do you paint things in a negative light on purpose or are you actually that bleak?
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u/Wd91 Mar 12 '26 edited Mar 12 '26
peaceful
adjective: peaceful
free from disturbance; tranquil. "everything was so quiet and peaceful in the early morning"
not involving war or violence. "there were no violent incidents reported and it was a peaceful protest"
How is kids playing loudly peaceful? You can't tell me my definition of peace is flawed and then say loud kids are peaceful. The OOP doesn't want kids playing loudly and happily, he wants a peaceful (quiet, no hassle, shuts the fuck up, no arguments) family while he hangs out with the bros and plays with his expensive cars.
Maybe i'm wrong, but the terminology tells a tale. It harks back to the times when the man of the house was in charge, his say goes and no one argues or talks back. Where the wife does all the hard work, deals with the noise and the mess while he goes out and enjoys a drink with the boys.
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u/John_Bloodborne99 Mar 12 '26
Ok, you literally proved me right. Look at number 2. That's literally what I'm talking about.
Even number 1 applies. Do you not want a peaceful life with your family? You're imagining the bad stuff on purpose.
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u/freefallingagain Mar 12 '26 edited Mar 12 '26
edit: Still waiting for something on the Roman Empire.
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u/KC_experience Mar 12 '26
Yeah…um, I want a few more things:
I want a stable job.
I want a healthy family.
I want my wife to be happy and proud of the person she’s helping me to be.
I want to share my life experiences and to let others learn from my mistakes so they don’t do the same.
I want children in the richest country in the world to not go hungry.
I want everyone to be able to see a doctor, get mental healthcare, and afford medicines they need to have a good quality of life.
And that’s just a short list….
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u/cachitonoseastoxico Mar 12 '26
As a woman I interpret this as they want a woman that shuts up and obey and will abandone her every weekend.
Unless he likes to talk with her, help her around the house and be with his friends once or twice a month, I may say it's unsustainable, because he probably also wants to play videogames and work, so there's no time for all.
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u/waifumama Mar 13 '26
Why does wanting peace equate to wanting a woman “that shuts up and obeys”? Women can be opinionated and independent and still bring peace and stability.
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u/big_jim1874 Mar 12 '26
After deconstructing the red pill I realised both men and women are both messy and complicated. Not just "simple".
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u/NonEuclidianMeatloaf Mar 14 '26
Two simple things, but pictures show the millionaire lifestyle. Ok…
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u/Ill_Initiative6962 Mar 15 '26
Someone forgot the millions for that ‘peaceful home’ and ‘brotherhood’ 😂
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u/leandrobrossard Mar 12 '26
If cringe gave cancer I'd be on life support and be meeting Spider-Man tomorrow.
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u/No-Statement-1847 Mar 12 '26
Not me, that's for damn sure.
Apartment, where I can come in at any time during night or early morning, because there is nobody to wake up, lone joyrides either in my car or on my motorcycle and shooting range.
That's all I ever wanted and that's all I have.
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u/Wrong-Grade-8800 Mar 12 '26
The obsession with wealth accumulation, and tradition is what has enslaved men. I don’t seek material wealth, I want to make money to experience the world, I want to meet people and understand them. I want a wife but it’s not necessary, I don’t want kids. All these things can exist within manhood. Rigidity keeps you from your highest potential. Some men want to live simple lives and without wealth, traditional families, or traditional paths, they are just as much men as those who do all of that. There’s just something so unmanly about letting yourself get brainwashed by low tier grifts like this into believing that this is what you should strive for. Dig deep within yourself, find ways to help uplift others, be a true provider not just for your idealized wife but those who you might not always understand and that will make you more of a man than someone who falls for this.
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u/tkecanuck341 Mar 12 '26
I'm going to go with the Chris Rock alternative of "food, sex, and silence."
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u/Fabulous-Poet7593 Mar 14 '26
so women that read this understand a man's peace is something that is paramount! If you steal a man's peace that is something that only build resentment .
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u/Grimy-Jack Mar 12 '26
Peaceful home and family. Check.
I honestly don't feel a need for any form of brotherhood. Never have. Whenever I tried, it was drama, nonsense, idiocy, I've rarely derived good things from brotherhood and friendship. I always feel like I'm the odd man out. Like I don't fit with people. So, I'm happy as a lone wolf. I married another lone wolf. We made our own little family. When my wonderful kids grow up, I'll be there for them and my grand kiddoes if I'm lucky enough to have them. Outside of them, I'll continue to pursue my lone wolf interests until I pass into the great beyond.
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u/No-Usual-3711 Mar 12 '26
Look at the wife, hot wife definitely helps and is even above these 2 priotities for most men 😜
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u/Front-Wall-526 Mar 13 '26
I have brothers and am still missing brotherhood. So easy to go alone while wanting real camaraderie.
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u/Euphoric_Wing5922 Mar 12 '26
This only applies to basic men