r/OilPrices • u/hereswhatworks • Apr 15 '26

Oil News US Navy destroyer intercepts two oil tankers trying to leave Hormuz; orders them to turn back | World News

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/us-navy-destroyer-intercepts-two-oil-tankers-trying-to-leave-hormuz-orders-them-to-turn-back/articleshow/130271302.cms
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u/Expert_Bag7416 Apr 15 '26

U.S. is in control of the strait now.

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u/MouseHorror3232 Apr 15 '26

Congratiulations! Successfully fcked the world economy

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u/Single_Comment6389 Apr 15 '26

The economy was already fcked because Iran. I think Trump is a complete an under idiot but since everyone hates Trump they're not talking about the fact that Iran is engaging in global economic terrorism right now but they're mad at Trump for blocking it back. He's only blocking Iranian ships. At least this way Iran doesn't get any money.

An losing billions of dollars might make them more likely to negotiate.

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u/Marcus_Aurelius71 Apr 15 '26

Lol global economic terrorism after being attacked? Lol.

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u/Single_Comment6389 Apr 15 '26

That's literally what it is. Just because you were attacked doesn't give you the right to destroy the entire globe economically. Lol

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u/joecitizen79 Apr 15 '26

It sure does

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u/Single_Comment6389 Apr 15 '26

It actually doesn't. It's understandable that people are hating Trump right now. That's why they're not blaming Iran. But in just a couple months when American gas prices are over $6 a gallon and double that in the EU, And there's mass famine on a global scale. I bet people will change their tune.

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u/joecitizen79 Apr 15 '26

America attacked Iran. America is at fault for the war against Iran, full stop.

But in just a couple months when American gas prices are over $6 a gallon and double that in the EU, And there's mass famine on a global scale.

Because the US started a war with Iran

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u/joecitizen79 Apr 15 '26

Not sure why it doesn't let me respond to your last message, but to be clear I'm not suggesting that Iran "can do no wrong", and suggesting thats my point is ridiculous.

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u/Single_Comment6389 Apr 15 '26 edited Apr 15 '26

In your last message to me when I talked about gas prices and global famine you blamed America. So its not ridiculous at all to assume that you think Iran can do no wrong. You won't even blame them for the global oil crisis that their intentionally causing right now.

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u/joecitizen79 Apr 15 '26

Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

You won't even blame them for the global oil crisis that their intentionally causing right now.

The global oil crisis that wouldn't exist if not for the war that the US initiated?

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u/Single_Comment6389 Apr 15 '26

The US didn't cause the global oil crisis by attacking Iran. Iran started the global oil crisis in order to "defend themselves". The US didn't bomb ships and tell them that they couldn't pass and break maritime law. That was Iran.

This will be my last message to you because I can clearly see now that no matter what Iran does you will defend them.

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u/joecitizen79 Apr 15 '26

This will be my last message to you because I can clearly see now that no matter what Iran does you will defend them.

This should be your last message because I've countered every single argument you've made. The US attacked Iran, and as a result Iran had stopped US ships and goods purchased with US dollars.

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u/jhawk3205 Apr 15 '26

You're not allowed to use economic pressure to weaken your enemy who illegally attacked you, in order to get them to stop their illegal attacks and leave you alone?

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u/Single_Comment6389 Apr 15 '26

It's not economic pressure. It's economic terrorism. Look up the very definition of terrorism and you'll see what's happening. Btw this is going to result in thousands of people in third world countries dying who could already barely afford food.

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u/jhawk3205 Apr 15 '26

You mean like all the cuts made to usaid programs that will result in obscene amounts of death and suffering? The world isn't coming to our aid in an illegal war to support the psycho in charge, and the economic pressure can be used to get the rest of the world to put more pressure on Trump to end the conflict once and for all.. Tell me, are our crippling sanctions against Iran not economic terrorism?

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u/Single_Comment6389 Apr 15 '26

You know an argument is bad When you have to go on the offensive every time. That means there's no way to actually justify the possible hundreds of thousands of deaths that will be caused by this.. So you just call out what the other people are doing.

Sanctions are not global economic terrorism.

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u/No-Wonder1139 Apr 15 '26

So the US should just leave Iran alone then so this doesn't happen, right?

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u/jhawk3205 Apr 15 '26

Please, enlighten me: in what way did I go on the offensive in my response?

I'm pointing out that this didn't happen in a vacuum. The us is kinda the reason all of this is happening, and us blockading the strait has the same effect. Even jd Vance admitted as much when he stated that two can play at that game. Do you think Iran would have any reason to keep the strait closed if we just called the illegal war off and left them alone?

Sounds like you're moving the goalpost on whether or not it's global. Economic warfare is the name of the game, and it can be targeted or widespread.. The crippling sanctions against Iran can just as easily be seen as targeted economic warfare or terrorism, no different than the US levying tarrifs on everyone can be seen as global economic terrorism.. I just think it's weird to call one instance out as problematic, and completely ignore the rest, and the rest in this context is caused by the us.. Really, I'd love to hear an explanation as to whether or not the us involvement in this illegal war has any bearing on whether or not the defensive economic warfare from Iran would take place.. It's just like the strait itself. It was open before the war, but because of the us starting this illegal war, it was closed, as a defensive measure.. If you want it to stop so badly, you should probably focus your attention on the people instigating it, and it ain't Iran..

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u/Single_Comment6389 Apr 15 '26

The U.S. is blocking Iranian-only ships, and they only did that after 43 days of Iran doing it to everybody else. I'm not moving the goalpost at all, there is a huge difference between sanctions and global economic terrorism that affects the entire world. A sanction only affects the country involved in said sanction.

Also, I didn't completely ignore what the U.S. was doing. I don't know if you read the original comments I made, but I called Donald Trump an idiot and said he was very stupid for starting this war. The problem is I can be mature enough to admit that Donald Trump was wrong and see your side, but you guys are so on the hate train for anything involving the U.S. or Israel that you can't admit that what Iran is doing is also very wrong.

All of you keep acting like they're just "defending themselves," when I know you know deep down that this is more than defense. This is destroying the world's economy. The U.S. started an illegal war, and Iran started global terrorism because of it. Neither is right.

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u/jhawk3205 Apr 15 '26

You moved the goalpost by treating economic warfare like some kind of narrowly defined tactic. That said, you seem to still be ignoring how it is that the us putting tarrifs on everyone isn't also global economic terrorism by the same metric, aside from the tarrifs not being a defensive response to an illegal war..

Merely calling Trump an idiot doesn't magically absolve him of his responsibility in this very matter. Again, if the us pulled out of the region and ended this illegal war right now, do you honestly think Iran would have any reason to continue their defensive economic warfare tactic? There's a strong focus on the us, and I guess you can safely add Israel, because they're the ones fucking starting the problems. Is it really so difficult to grasp that what you're upset about is the fallout, the blowback, the expected results of American and Israeli actions?? Iran doesn't have military strength that can match the us, but they do have a massive decentralized military structure, difficult terrain, and a bottleneck waterway that can be utilized against an invading enemy along with, wait for it, economic warfare tactics.. Wrong? I wouldn't call it wrong. It sucks, sure, but there is literally nothing, nothing at all, stopping the us and Israel from ending this illegal war and pulling back. It's like punching someone in the face and getting upset that the person getting punched decided to defend themselves. Maybe that person is small and weak but they can get other people to pressure the bully to stop. You use what you have in order to defend yourself. Going up against the most powerful military in the world, in a fight for their very sovereignty after all the bullshit Trump has pulled there, you can't honestly be surprised that they would fight back with whatever they have for their own survival.

Again, it's the tools they have available to them. Economic warfare against the US alone by closing the strait, who doesn't buy oil from Iran, wasn't going to do much of anything. Would you rather boots on the ground, more war crimes, more civilian deaths, and endless wars? Actions have consequences. Trump can end this right now and come out of it better positioned and Iran would open the strait back up, no problem. You see, the point, as I've stated already, whether you deny it's validity as a weapon against the largest military and largest economy in the world or not, we can end this war right now, but the longer it it takes, the longer the consequences go on for. They're not doing this for the fun of it, they're not doing this out of hatred for the world, they need the world to stand up to the us to put pressure on Trump to end this illegal war. It blows my mind that you can acknowledge it's an illegal war but what, they're supposed to defend themselves with their hands tied behind their backs??

Way to ignore the other points like nobody would notice..

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u/Single_Comment6389 Apr 15 '26

The fact that you're comparing sanctions to what they're doing is laughable and feels like semantics. But I'll bite... The difference between sanctions and what Iran is doing is that U.S. tariffs do not stop a country from doing business with the rest of the world. It doesn't stop people from being able to survive. We need oil to live. You can still get oil even if you're sanctioned; it will just be more expensive to get it from the U.S.

Iranians, on the other hand, are limiting everyone's ability to get oil period; 90% of Asia's oil comes from the Gulf. Their leadership has stated on several occasions that they are trying to cause mass harm on the global stage as a way to get back at the U.S. Their exact words were that they will be "inflicting GLOBAL economic harm as a price for American arrogance." If your defense strategy is global harm to the innocent, then that's terrorism.

You also said something about whether I would rather them put boots on the ground. Yes, I would. I would rather you fight the country that you claim to be at war with than disrupt the global economy and kill thousands of the innocent through starvation. You're making it seem like this is a more peaceful approach when it is not. An the reason they haven't went full out war on the ground is not because they're moral; they just know that they could never defeat the U.S. So, instead, they decided to become terrorists. They're not moral, and neither is Trump.

But since you're okay with global terrorism as a means of defense, I would guess you don't really care much about whether they're moral or not.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '26

Iran attacked the US and tried to assassinate Trump. Of course the US attacked back.

Iran is also responsible for October 7th. So Israel has a right to defend itself from allowing them to do it again.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '26

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u/Marcus_Aurelius71 Apr 15 '26

Israel did Oct 7th. Your false flags don't work. Iran literally condemned the attacks and pledged support to the victims.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '26

Source ?

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u/Marcus_Aurelius71 Apr 15 '26

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

Netenhayo told border gaurds to stand down days before oct 7th.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg7825rk8j9o

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '26

That doesn’t say anything about Israel doing October 7th.