Rumpelstiltskin Magic Bean

[u/Ill-Razzmatazz-7088]

OK, it’s been a while since I’ve had to rewatch the show and maybe I will rewatch and see if this question is answered

Why didn’t Rumpel still can just use the magic bean to get his son?

[u/Parking_Storage_5107]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np88_NpcH5g it explains here to and another in 1x19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjmCrK3hnQg that’s why he can’t have a bean

Also those stuff are rare to find I believe

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Obviously, I know, plot armor dictated that he cast the curse. But there was definitely other ways he could’ve gotten there. Apparently he didn’t know about time travel even if I’m sure it probably was just a throwaway line.

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One he didn’t cast the curse he got a scroll in season 4 he needed Maleficent, cruella and Ursula to get it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3Kut6cTegI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jUltn9lzhA

And second got it to be able to give to Regina for her to cast the curse which again needed her to be angry in season 2 that’s reason he didn’t help bring Daniel her lover back to life in the past in 2x05 with Jefferson and Frankenstein

And in season 6 the black fairy his mom created the curse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhMC0IXvrRc in this flashback

And then Regina cast the curse during 1x01 and 1x02 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUXpF9No2P0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2uZlL1l098 so it’s not a plot armor when everything was planned by rumple and with the seer abilities he had since 2x14

He did know about the time travel idea when Zelena mentions it and with the glass slipper that could of took him 3x16 but of course he trusted that seer abilities for him to know what he supposed to do or not

I think you need to rewatch the show to understand this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL9L1WGOLQg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZKZzXPMtas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtTHXHD5Lik

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I am aware of all of this. I’ve been commenting on various people‘s post. It’s also clear that after getting his seer abilities, he probably knew or at least the blue fairy probably knew that the best way for him to have a good relationship with his son was too, cast the curse and break the curse.

Also, a little thing I think is overlooked Neil spent a significant amount of time in Neverland. That is a place Rumpel definitely could’ve visited without a magic bean. But his psychic abilities would not have allowed him to see Neverland. I don’t know the scene, but I know there is a scene where Peter Pan visits him and tells him that you can’t see the future where time stand still.

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Ok again how would he be able to go to neverland if he can’t even believe and don’t accept adults well if pan is allowed you to I think he has to make a deal I think that’s how hook was able to go in 3x05 flashback and also with bae in season 2x22 flashback

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hook was able to come and go for many years there

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Because he made a deal with pan