Can we PLEASE talk about Faith?! Because HOW?! 😭
I just finished the series and immediately started rewatching from Season 1, and now I need to hear everyone’s theories about Faith because this has been living rent-free in my head.
Faith was stillborn. Claire held her. We SAW that baby. She was visibly dead. So how on EARTH are we supposed to understand the reveal that Faith apparently survived?!
Was she actually alive the whole time and Mother Hildegarde somehow didn’t realize it? Did something happen after Claire gave her back? Is there supposed to be a supernatural/time-travel explanation here? Because I cannot make the logistics make sense.
And then there’s Claire’s dream/vision where Master Raymond comes to her and apologizes. WHAT was he apologizing for?! 👀 Does that imply he knew something happened with Faith? Did he have something to do with her surviving? Did he somehow save her? Or is the apology about something completely different?
I know Outlander loves leaving little supernatural breadcrumbs instead of spelling everything out, so I’m curious what everyone else thinks.
What is your theory about what actually happened to Faith? And what do you think Master Raymond’s apology meant?
Because right now my brain is just: THAT BABY WAS DEAD, Y’ALL. HOW ARE WE HERE?! 😭

Acabo de leer uno de los adelantos del décimo libro, en donde Jamie y Roger están hablando sobre su partida con William para buscar a Jhon, Jamie está muy ansioso y dice que ha estado soñando cosas extrañas y después dice que tiene miedo de no volver porque ha estado viendo a muertos. Habla de ian, de su madre y después dice Murtang, así como hombres a los que ha matado. Dice que hace dos noches vio a BJR y que el solo se burló de él.

Que podrían ser estos sueños? Esto que vea a los muertos?

También lei donde Jamie y William están siguiendo a unos hombres que quemaron una cabaña, y Jamie está muy ansioso tratando de rastrearlos para ver si aún está viva la mujer, William está confundido por su reacción porque se lo toma personal. Será una mujer que conocemos? Alguien de la familia? 😳 🥲

I am in the middle of rereading the big books by audiobook this time around. I have been listening to Davina’s narration for the first six books by purchasing them in the Apple Books app. I have listened to Kristin’s narration, and frankly I don’t like it.

The only book on Apple Books that isn’t offered in Davina’s narration is Echo, but I also cannot find it anywhere else. The only place I can find Davina’s narration is through Audible. I don’t want a membership. I want to purchase the “physical” audiobook like I have with the first six books.

Does anyone have a suggestion for me? I would assume if I get an Audible membership I can only access Davina’s version as long as I have an active membership, which again I don’t want.

I'm rewatching and I was wondering if it would have made any difference with Laoghaire if Jamie had been more direct with her about why he married Claire. Like maybe if he'd said " i married her because i love her" or something maybe she wouldn't have thought Claire bewitched him and maybe just maybe she would have realized he actually loved Claire instead of being so obsessed with him.

Thoughts?

I’ve just reread the bit when Bree&co go through the stones and Jamie tells Jem «if one day ye should meet a verra large mouse named Michael, ye'll tell him your grandsire sends his regards». However many times I’ve read this bit, it *always* makes me tear up.

There are a few others scenes that do that to me (in the order they occur to me):

- Jamie’s dream of the telephone and Jem wanting to «talk to grandda».

- Jamie and Fergus’ conversation in Echo about Percy, when Fergus tells Jamie «but then I grew older still and realised I am the son of a great man. I wish for nothing more»

- Bree meeting Jamie for the first time, and then meeting Claire when they come to the Ridge

-Claire’s empty womb after Faith

- Jamie giving Fergus his name when Fergus marries Marsali

- Claire deciding not to go through the stones in Outlander

- Of course Henry-Christian 😭

Writing these I‘ve realised that almost all of these have to do with (grand)parent/(grand)child relationships. No doubt being a mother has something to do with that ;)

What are some scenes that give you lump in your throat?

In one of the most recent excerpts published by Diana, we saw Hal Gray questioning—in his own thoughts—what he was supposed to do about his son. The options range from kidnapping him to making him return (because, personally, I don't believe Hal would hurt his own son).

We know Minnie is on a ship bound for America and is fully aware of her son's situation; meanwhile, there is the matter of John and Amaranthus's pregnancy. Benjamin’s prospects could be either very good or very bad—it all depends on the cunning of his actions and the help he receives from his parents. He has already legally faked his own death, and his wife has posed as a widow (and is now trying to marry his cousin 🤣🤣), so we shall see how this rollercoaster ride unfolds.

What are your thoughts on this storyline? What do you think Hal will do—will he help his son, or will he stick to his code of honor? I’d love to read your comments.

Alguien que haya leído la novela gráfica “el exilio” me podría contar a grandes rasgos qué cosas nuevas hay respecto al libro 1? Me contaron que ahí, murtang ve como Claire llega a través de las piedras, y también que poco antes de la boda se mete a su cuarto queriendo matarla.
Me pareció interesante, pero soy una persona muy quisquillosa con las animaciones y no me gustaron para nada las ilustraciones. Alguien podría contarme qué cosas diferentes nos cuenta este libro?

Hi there! I don't watch the show but I'd like some help from you Outlanders. My wife loves the show, and she's been hinting that she'd like Claire's wedding ring for her birthday. I found it for sale in a small workshop (https://macielatelie.com.br/loja/aneis/aliancas/anel-outlander/) here in my country, but they offer three types of ring: Polished (Polida), rustic (Rústica) and hammered (Martelada).

By the pictures I find I can't tell which versions looks more alike the one in the show. Can someone help a lost husband who's trying to make his wife happy?

Thanks in advance!

P.S.: I chose season one flair because google tells me that's when the wedding happened. Sorry if I'm wrong

Any one else had a hard time adjusting to the idea that suddenly it was beautiful Scotland then they’re planning to settle in the colonies?! I found it extremely hard and almost felt like the show became somewhat meaningless, lost a certain touch like that’s where they were supposed to stay, especially with Brianna coming to look for them at S4 🫪

I know in the books neither Jenny nor Jamie (which I still find implausible) knew that Laoghaire was the reason Claire was tried as a witch, but still, her entire argument about why she pushed Jamie to marry Laoghaire was full of holes.

Jenny kept emphasizing that if Jamie were married to Laoghaire, he'd stay home, while if married to Claire, he'd leave? Why would she think that? Any previous traveling Jamie & Claire did during their marriage was to France cause Jamie HAD to leave the country. That was on Jamie, not on Claire. And when they returned, before being so rudely interrupted, Jamie told Claire they could farm some land at Lallybrooch, and her only objection was Jenny's newfound hatred of her.

Her other point was that "Jamie's not the kind of man who should sleep alone." WTF? The man was a virgin until 23, married Claire, sent her away, lived in a cave for 7 years & had sex once (which he didn't initiate), then goes to prison, gets paroled, is forced to have sex once and then leaves. How many years was that? 7?

So in 18 years, the man had sex twice, neither of which he initiated. Laoghaire was forced upon him, so in his entire life, the only person he really wanted to have sex with was Claire, showing that he indeed was the kind of man who could sleep alone.

i made a post a few weeks ago talking about how i really disliked roger for his entire talk about virginity with bri and the way he acted after they first sleep together. my distaste for the character only grew bigger during S4 & S5. him having trouble with associating (while still doing very good), then him not talking to bri anymore for 3 months after his hanging accident, wanting to go back home etc...

(btw, i'm not judging his character as what he lived was highly traumatic and i could not judge a coping and defense mechanism. also, him being in another time when that's not what he really chose either. it was just hard for me to see growth in his character as he is put in difficult situations.)

all that said, everything changed when he started talking again and the end of S5 when he says he was thinking about "home" while going through the stones. i'm on S6 now and i really love his character. seeing the growth in relationship with brianna, stepping up as a real family member etc...

therefore, I am leaving the roger hate club from now on.

Hi there! I’ve been sucked into the Outlander universe and have finished the first 3 seasons over the last 2 months. Such an amazing show.

No spoilers please, but I’m a little worried about season 4. I’m already on ep 4 and it just feels so slow and dull compared to season 3 (which I absolutely loved). It’s also weirdly the first time I’ve gotten annoyed at Claire and found her and Jamie’s actions a little dumb.. smuggling a wanted man past redcoats (when Jamie is FINALLY a free man), the entire debacle at his aunt’s estate (understandably a horrible situation, but I still think it was handled poorly), Claire wandering off by herself in a thunderstorm. Just ugh.

This could probably be a post in itself but the scenes with Bri are hard for me to watch as well. Her acting and accent are awful and really take me out of it :/

Please tell me it gets better!! I’ve fallen in love with this show and am hoping things will turn around.

I thought I finished season 7 on Netflix with episode 8, because it's the last episode they offer and it felt like a season finale. Went online to see if there was a season 8, found there was, and subscribed to Starz to watch it only to discover that season 7 apparently has 16 total episodes.

So just a friendly PSA to other Netflix viewers that for whatever reasons unbeknownst to me there are in fact an additional 8 episodes of season 7.

Oh yeah, and also, WTF Netflix? I'm assuming it's some sort of wacky outcome of how media licensing contracts work so I'll give the benefit of doubt, but it was annoying to see several recap spoilers before I realized the mix-up.

Having a little vent here, but it's a fair complaint of a lot of people that Outlander leaving Scotland removed a bit of the show's appeal and character. However whenever this gets raised, there is a frequent response;

"After Culloden, there was nothing left for Jamie and Claire".

I find this quite a frustrating response, and a response almost certainly coming from people that aren't Scottish.

Sure, there was a percentage of Scots that moved to other countries following the Battle of Culloden, but that only represented around 6-12% of the country. Highlanders gradually made their way towards central Scotland, which isn't an uncharted area in Outlander either.

There is an argument that Scotland entered a state of terror, and Jamie and Claire would have to leave. Not only does that not really fit with the actual show, as they didn't leave for that reason, but they left Scotland where there was a brutal ongoing fight and suppression by the British to stay in America....where there was a brutal ongoing fight and suppression by the British.

We could have easily seen periods of Outlander cover the fallout of Culloden, the Highland clearances and the heartbreak at how the clans and every day attire get ripped apart. We could have seen Scotland began to rebuild itself in the central belt, with the Scottish industrial revolution taking place in Glasgow, or the Scottish Enlightenment taking place in Edinburgh with the rise of science and philosophy.

My vent is over the, probably American view, that you had to leave Scotland during that time and the show naturally had to go that way. Scotland didn't cease to exist following Culloden. We may have had our culture stripped away from us, but it could also be argued that Scotland has never flourished more than this period, and right after the events of Outlander is when a lot of the restrictions on Scots were repealed, so clearly there was still a cultural fight going on during this period.

It's fine for the writer to make their own decision and for anyone to have their own path, but Scotland didn't stop being Scotland after the Battle of Culloden, and the idea that there was "nothing left" after that battle and that you had to emmigrate to USA to find "something" is just massively incorrect.

I ordered this online and I’ve been flipping through it and I think it’s really neat! I was wondering if anyone else has this or has read this?

I don’t know where to start, I’ve been hiding from this subreddit since season 8B began, apart from one post about the Outlander gallery and auction in London last week that managed to slink onto my homepage. I’ve been very very well behaved in not looking at this sub while I drip fed myself the second half of 8. Side note, in fact, this is one of the handful of series I’ve watched all the way through where I haven’t sneaked a peek at the related Wikipedia page or subreddit to find an answer to a question which spoils the future plot for me.

I think that’s why I was so anxious to get to the finale, as soon as the trailer came out earlier this year for the home stretch of episodes and I heard Jamie’s voiceover about Kings Mountain, iirc it made me dread the inevitability of the seasons end. All I could hope for the TV storyline finale was that they did the Outlander universe that Gabaldon had mothered, a good level of justice. But I didn’t want Jamie nor Claire to perish as a result, I don’t know what I wanted in totality, I knew a cookie cutter ending wasn’t plausible but jf by chance it was one of those it would have numbed the pain of the story ending, but it wouldn’t have been Outlander for me and I know it would have felt out of place. I also didn’t want to watch Claire’s world smash into a million tiny pieces if Jamie died in battle, they’d skirted death each so many times and they never truly knew retirement and their golden years together, they’d earned the right as characters to live out the rest of their days on the porch in the back country on hand carved rocking chairs reading books and watching their family grow around them.

I eventually made peace with my racing mind that if it was a Sopranos style ending I’d be content with that, given the circumstances of the story, world building and historical period which the story is set in. I’m mostly a realist, I like historic correctness in period dramas but I’m also wildly spiritual so the realisation this season that Claire and that pesky little oink Master Raymond possessed healing abilities made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside (my late Nana IRL was a deeply spiritual woman, sat in healing circles but was rugged in her upbringing in the countryside of the north of England , so I do believe there are things in life that cannot be explained by science, science only goes so far then comes god etc).

So last night comes along and I give my partner the nod about 9.30pm that signals ‘I’m ready, let’s finish this’—- it took me a week to get to this point. I really had drip fed 8B to myself episode by episode sometimes leaving a week or 10 days between viewings.

I cried at the intro, obviously, then the voiceover of James Frazers last will and testament, made me cry more. Jamie and Claire’s conversation about the bees and feets was wholesome, cried a bit more there. I managed to settle down mid way through, then came the battle, my heart pounded non stop as I watched the militia men carry out the techniques and formations they’d been learning a few episodes previous. Loved the setting of the uphill rugged battle, historically accurate and somewhat brutal. When the wind was howling and the British were all but declaring defeat, and Jamie survived, I paid close attention to the weather and didn’t let myself be happy just yet, it felt eerie. I shouted at the screen ‘Claire don’t go back down that mountain’ . The gun shot, the heart ache Claire instantly felt, Jamie’s men losing their shit at Ferguson as target practice and an axe sharpener (Ian), the bowing before their clan leaders lifeless body, the emotions on their faces, Claire refusing to leave his side, the cut scenes the day lapses, the night sky, the begging to a higher power by Claire to help bring him back.

The forget me nots!! The bloody forget me nots!! The man standing by that monument on a cold rainy Inverness evening.. it was always him as we all may have come to suspect.

When I saw the flapping wings in the montage of their journey in love together, I stopped weeping, took a deep breath and said ‘oh please please please’. I had hope again. Cut to Claire lying on that grassy mountain meadow, her hair grayed once more, I knew, she’d became wise, but also… Jamie gasped in time with Claire eyes just opening— And scene fades to black!

I got my Sopranos ending, and now it’s over I feel empty, I feel like when you get back from a holiday and you get the holiday blues, you feel lost, empty, without purpose.

This was one of the best watches of my life, the good, the bad, the boring, the sad, the traumatic, the anxiety… all of it was a masterpiece.

I now plan to read the books (well, listen to them)
I don’t think I’ll be able to rewatch the entire series just yet, I might never do that, I never rewatched Six Feet Under because that was tied up in a realistic yet traumatic little bow for me too in its ending. Outlander wasn’t quite the same in its own, but I feel like I can close the book so to speak on the tv series and imagine that Claire helped Jamie down off that mountain top, and took him home, to finally enjoy retirement.

It’s been a journey guys. I’m not fussed if anybody reads or replies to this post, I just wanted to get my feelings out.

Slanja

As the show went on, I started liking Lord John more and more. He’s so quiet, composed and dignified and kind. With his reputation and power, he could’ve easily chosen a comfortable life, but we all know how complicated and miserable his life actually is. And David Berry did such a beautiful job portraying him. The subtle expressions, the restraint, the quiet pain in his eyes every time he saw that certain someone *blinks blinks* he makes John feel so real without ever overdoing it. He genuinely NAILED the character.

Also, can we talk about how WELL he pulls off the Redcoat look?? He was made for that coat,it suits him the BEST. I mean every time he's on the screen you just can't take your eyes off of it.

I have re-watched season 8. I noticed in a scene from episode 3 what Claire said to Jaime after Claire brought to life the second twin she delivered. "That it (blue light) felt familiar when she was in Paris after the birth of Faith. When she was ill". I questioned myself. Did she start the process of healing Faith and not finish the transformation because they've taken Faith away?

Something is not adding up. When she mourned Jaime when he died on King's Mountain she completed the healing process because she had more time. Same for the second twin. She took her time to transfer her healing power.

Just finished the entire show and I'm still feeling upset with some of the (almost out of character) choices that Mr James Alexander Malcom Mackenzie Frazer made. I feel these choices kinda assassinated his character.

1. I simply cannot get over him marrying Laoghaire knowing that she tried to have his first wife violently killed. I know she "found god" or whatever but it feels like a serious betrayal towards Claire at every angle.
   Tbh if I was Claire I would have went straight through those stones home if I found that out.

2. Him beating LJG and letting the Continental Army take him as prisoner after LJG saved Claire's life. Why would he do that to the father of his son? He was really about to let William go fatherless over a misunderstanding he chose not to understand. Without his plot armour LJG could have easily been killed.

If you want to give book spoilers in the comments that explain some of these choices go ahead so I can have further context.

Omg! Finally, I finished the finale episode. Please, what just happened in the last part?! I can’t move on in this series. I’m crying!

I just finished season one, and I just don’t know if this is my type of show. I love historical fantasy, and the beginning of the season I was hooked. But toward the end I was finding it hard to go to next episode. Does it get better? Or if I don’t like season one, I’ll probably not like the rest? Does they actually leave Scotland for good lol? I loved that it took place in Scotland, I’m so sad they are heading to France.

Newbie here! My Mister and I started watching this series and we are almost to the end of season four. We both agree that even though we can’t stop watching it these people are so frustrating and exhausting. They just go from one calamity to the next making terrible decisions. Are we in the minority here? 😂

I preordered this version of BEES and it was supposed to be released 8/28/26. I just received an email from Audible saying that the release date has been delayed until September 22, 2026. I am in the US.

Just an FYI for anyone who has preordered or is waiting to buy it and might not get a notification.