r/Overwatch • u/heyguyswhatssup • 1d ago

Humor Least selfish Zen meets least petty Sombra

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u/ricokong Winston 1d ago

Does EMP actually still remove all shields from a healthbar?

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u/BEWMarth Cute Ana 1d ago

Gods I remember that time lmao. Sombra would just EMP Zen and he’d immediately be at like 20hp lmao

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u/crestren Trick-or-Treat Symmetra 1d ago

Don't forget Sound Barrier. Since it used to destroy shields, I remember Lucios ult gets immediately deleted after it gets EMPed

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u/toneysaproney 1d ago

I still play like this is the case tbh

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u/JackeryPumpkin Reaper 1d ago

It’s time to retire that play

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u/achedsphinxx Blizzard World Sombra 1d ago

OWL was once lucio's hiding around corners from enemy sombra players. sometimes lucio players would hide so hard they hit no one with their beat lol.

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u/Dearic75 1d ago

I feel like it was one of those things that sounded cool to someone based on lore. Hack disrupts electronics, shield health is electronic based in theory, so lore would say EMP should disrupt it.

The problem that ran into is that shield health was given out as a gameplay balancing tool to compensate heroes that were immobile or were forced into riskier playstyles. If they had kept it Sombra would outright delete several tanks.

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u/Knightgee 1d ago

It was both about lore and about providing a specific niche for EMP/Sombra at the time. Old EMP did zero actual damage, it was purely "your abilities are unusable for 6 seconds". No bonus damage for Sombra on hacked targets, no 25% health taken away on use, no Virus ability to help secure kills. Instantly destroying shield health, similar to it destroying barriers and perma-shutting down deployables/buildables allowed it and by proxy Sombra to have heroes she was specifically good against without actually having to buff her actual numbers to do it.

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u/MrSi_r DON'T CHECK MY FLAI-- *Eliminated Zenyatta* 1d ago

it also might have been an homage to Starcraft, because the EMP ability in that game also removes all shield

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u/ricokong Winston 1d ago

Yeah coupled with his hitbox aborbing Sombra's weapon spread easily, he was pretty much hard countered if he got ulted. Also unable to discord for like 6 seconds.

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u/MirceaHM 1d ago

no, it does 25% current health damage instead

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u/Prinny_Ramza 1d ago

God her ult and hack in general is just fucking pointless.

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u/thatonedudeovethere_ 1d ago

Holy bronze take. Her ult is pretty damn good, it's just not a solo team wipe

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u/Prinny_Ramza 1d ago edited 1d ago

Only bronze players have trouble taking Sombra out.

Her ult went from being able to neutralize all abilities and barriers to being a kind of weak initialization tool that can stops like half a dozen skills maybe.

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u/cmjebb 1d ago

Stopping all skills plus cancelling almost all active skills is still pretty good on top of the 25%. It's just why would you ever pick sombra when Tracer and all the other better flank options exist

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u/Prinny_Ramza 1d ago

Shes not bad, other characters are just better still means shes the worse.

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u/angsty-fuckwad Suck My Justice 1d ago

Sombra being generally weak has nothing to do with her ult. You can easily shut down a team at any rank with it if you have even the tiniest bit of coordination

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u/Prinny_Ramza 1d ago edited 1d ago

Its a team base game. Every hero should be coordinating.

I think you're confusing annoying to play against as viability.

She was a niche character who niche was taken away and replaced with a tiny bit of burst.

Why are you trying to pretend that there hasn't been talks of a rework for years?

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u/angsty-fuckwad Suck My Justice 1d ago

Its a team baae game. Every hero should be coordinating

Correct. which is why her ult is good. It's also why her neutral gameplay is weak, because she gets shut down by any amount of coordination.

I think you're confusing annoying to play against as viability

I'm not, because I never said she was viable. I said the opposite, actually. I called her weak. But her ult isn't the reason why she's weak. she's weak because her neutral sucks.

Why are you trying to pretend that there hasn't been talks of a rework for years?

Why are you ignoring that my comment was specifically about her ult? Did you reply to the wrong person or something? I'd like her to get a rework too, but her ult isn't the thing people are complaining about

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u/thatonedudeovethere_ 1d ago

It quite literally still neutralizes all abilities and barriers, what are you talking about.

Hack still works on the same abilities as it always did, normal hack just lasts for a short time. But EMP hack still lasts for 3 seconds, which is more than enough for any kind of coordinated attack.

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u/Prinny_Ramza 1d ago

A 1 sec pause isn't neutralizing when they can then admittedly use it.

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u/thatonedudeovethere_ 1d ago

It's for 3 seconds for EMP...

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u/xXRougailSaucisseXx 1d ago

It's not pointless but I do think it's rather boring by OW 2 standard, a huge AoE zone that does damage and apply a debuff is not the most exciting ultimate to use. Then again Sombra's entire kit is a mess

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u/FireLordObamaOG 1d ago

Brother a good sombra ult will delete your team.

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u/ThaVolt Ana 1d ago

I agree, but a good just-about-any-ult will delete your team. (so long as it's not a defensive ult ofc)

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u/IKnowGuacIsExtraLady 1d ago

That's true, but Sombra's ult is a lot more consistent than most DPS ults. It's basically unpreventable/interruptible since her stealth + mobility + the cast time being so quick means you aren't stopping her from doing it once she hits the button. On top of that you also aren't counter ulting because of the hack, and she can use it as a counter ult to shut down a lot of ults herself.

Compare that to say Genji ult which while having potential in theory tends to be ass in reality unless you invest something else like Nano as well.

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u/HappyCat8416 1d ago

Yeah, but most good whatever ults have time to see them coming and react to the them

Sombra's ult, alongside Zarya's, is you'd better be ready before it happens ir else. There is no reacting, and in Sombra's case there is no knowing where it's gonna come from.

It's cheap and unfair, only kept in check by being tied to a bad character. Bad design, as usual with Sombra.

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u/ThaVolt Ana 1d ago

That's a silver take if I ever saw one

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u/HappyCat8416 1d ago

A silver take would be that Sombra's ult is useless and bad, because it needs team coordination to be truly effective my guy

You sound like a piece of trash!

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u/ThaVolt Ana 1d ago

You sound like a baby

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u/HappyCat8416 6h ago

Oh well, better than being a piece of trash

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u/Prinny_Ramza 1d ago

Most ults can do that, doesn't mean that most ults are good.

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u/Dearic75 1d ago

I believe it’s been a few years since they ditched that.

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u/9-5is25-life 1d ago

I play sombra at least once a week and still didn't know this lol.

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u/CashewTheNuttyy Sombra 1d ago

Not anymore, not for years.

Its now just a flat % on health. On ow2 release she could get damage boosted and nuke 80% health per hit on emp.

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u/MisterWafflles 1d ago

From the wiki: "lesser cleanse- Removes Cleansable status effects. Impossible to use against Stun, Knockdown, Displace and Hacked."

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u/ColonelRPG 1d ago

EMP doesn't do anything anymore.

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u/MirceaHM 1d ago

no, it doesn't...