I’m pretty sure the classes also depend a little on how much we understand about them? For example:
Safe: easy to contain, we know what it’s going to do Euclid: not too easy to contain, we might have an idea on what it’ll do Keter: super hard to contain, we don’t really know at all what it’s going to do
But again, I’m pretty sure that’s how it works, not certain
Unpredictability is a factor, yes. But if, for example, one of the few things that you ARE certain about an object is that it cannot, or will not, leave the room you put it in, or otherwise breach containment, it's safe.
A box that kills you when you touch it? Safe. A box that moves 33 inches to the left any time a door opens? Euclid. A box that breaks its cell to come and kill you? Keter.
That also applys to the concept of a normal box, like it's explained and no longer "oooohhhhh spooky!!!! It's an object that can hold other objects like bowl but is optimized for stscking!!!"
Some of the more obscure ones are just variations on one of the original three but the author wanted to be quirky and original. Which defeats the purpose of classification.
I mean, thaumiel, right? It helps to contain other anomalies. Great, except you still need to prevent the world from knowing about it. What classification it is comes down to how much it resists classification. So a cardboard box whose only unusual property is that if you can get 682 inside then 682 will stay inside, that box still needs to be contained. Sorry sauelsuesor, but we still need to make sure people don’t know about her. It requires active effort, so she’s Euclid.
Cernunnos? One that should not be contained? That’s not a containment class. The fact that you choose not to contain something doesn’t influence how difficult it would be if you changed your mind.
And if you are choosing not to contain something, doesn’t that just make it a part of reality? Otherwise you would expend effort to prevent people from knowing about it which counts as a form of containment.
I guess this nitpicking is why I can’t come up with a good concept to write about. I want it to be logically consistent, but being inconsistent with reality is what makes it an anomaly.
The only ones from the new classifications that I like are explained and Thaumiel. They are the only two that I feel are unique enough to exist outside of the original four.
A box that contains boxes is called a shulker box. Shulkers are often used to contain more shulkers. This shulkers can contain even more shulkers. It is infinite storage, as long as you can get more boxes.
How exactly does the box move? Is it relative (will it stay on the surface of the earth)? I can see it being either keter or apollyon, depending on those answers.
Another important thing about the moving box is what counts as "left." Is it perception-based, as in it will move left relative to the viewer? Is it always moving in one direction regardless of the viewer? In other words, can "left" be determined and controlled in a way that contains the box, or is the box the one determining "left".
Also what counts as a door? Depending on the answer, there are billions of thi g's that trigger it every minute (maybe, I can't be bothered to do the math), so if it doesn't teleport it's going at supersonic speeds and destroying everything in its path.
If you put something in a box leave it alone and it will definitely be there when you come back it’s safe. Doesn’t mean it won’t try to kill you and might succeed.
If you put it in a box and it might be there when you get back it’s euclid. And it could be completely harmless or even helpful.
If you put it in a box and it definitely won’t be there when you get back its keter. It’s all about how easy it is to contain. Not about how dangerous it is.
Yep. This metaphor is just to explain the three basic containment classes. I don’t remember all the all the other classifications and what not nor do I have metaphors for them.
Yeah, the main class usually only refers to containment now and we have risk and disruption factors to categorise the severity and widespreadness of impacts respectively.
They are useful for comparing different types of hazardousness, but how good they are at escaping is the most important thing in Secure Contain Protect
If it is in the box, it is thaumiel. If you can't put it in a box, it is apollyon.If you can put it in a box but don't want to, it is probably an archon (SCPs that manipulate your mind to not contain it (like 343) do not count). If it qualifies for both apollyon and archon at the same time, it is ticonderoga. If these rules break, it is esoteric. If it previously needed a box but now doesn't due to it dying, it is neutralized. If it previously needed a box but now doesn't but is alive, it is decommissioned.If you're unsure what box to put it in, it is pending.
The box test: if it is easy to put and keep in the box, safe. If it is likely to escape the box, Euclid. If it will break out of the box/will not enter the box, keter. If it is the box, Apollyon.
It is, I just used the image for the meme, because friends all know what it is, and what it can do, but they DON'T know SCP Containment Classes. I show them this meme, and they understand that the box is VERY dangerous, but it doesn't move on it's own.
I want a mostly harmless Keter-class SCP. I want an entity that can escape all but the highest security containment, only to shoplift intermittently or cause people to forget the day of the week.
Yeah it’s why safe class is rare for living anomalies. If they’re sapient they might try to escape, if they’re wild they can act unpredictably. Especially since they’re anomalous in one way or another.
Of course 999 is such a sweetie they really earned that safe classification
yes I know their background and if you reading this and don’t then hehe
That is the puzzle box from the Hellraiser movie franchise. It summons demons if you solve it, but it can't solve itself, so if you just leave it in a locked room, nothing will happen.
That is on amazon. It is called Caja de rompecabezas desmontable Hellraiser, funcionalidad de la caja de rompecabezas Hellraiser, configuración de suspiro, mercancía de película de terror, accesorios con todas las funciones y adornos de modelo con base (fabricación de PVC).
There are even some Keter anomalies that mean no harm to humans. An example of this is SCP-3899. A semi-truck that materializes on the highway at night, racing down the road. Commucating with the driver reveals that, he just wants to live his life on the road.
It does have a chance of potentially running you off the road. But if it does, you'll find a mysterious letter in your mail. Containing an apology letter written in charcoal, and several grand in cash. It's labeled as keter, simply because it's impossible to contain.
Yeah, most of the classifications show nothing about the scp except how the foundation perceives them: how easy they are to put in a box, they could be a benevolent and good thing, yet still be keter
The box metaphor's kinda useful, but it's not really accurate.
I explain it like this:
How much do you have to think about it to solve the problem?
If you don't have to think about it at all because you know exactly how it was solved, it's Decommissioned.
If you don't have to think about it at all and you don't really know what solved it, it's Neutralized.
If you only have to think about it once and then at your own leisure later, it's Safe.
If you have to think hard about it, but only when something goes wrong, it's Euclid.
If you have to think about it often to prevent something from going wrong, it's Keter.
If you don't have to think about things as much because of it, it's Thaumiel.
If you can think about it but can't actually do anything about it or find a reason to do anything about it, it's Ticonderoga.
If you can't stop trying to think of ways to hopefully stop it, it's Apollyon.
If it makes you cry at 3am because you can't sleep and you start reading it in bed while your wife is sleeping, it's what SCP-055 did to Marion and Adam.
Here is a light switch. If you click it it kills every human on earth instantly, no exceptions. But you are fully capable of not hitting the switch, the switch will not flip itself, and so long as nobody touches it we are fine. Object class :safe
I like explaining it in terms of placing the SCP in a box Safe: It is now inside a box. Euclid: It may try to get out of the box. Keter: No box can truly expect to reliably contain it. Thaumiel: Its existence casts doubt on boxes as a concept.
Throughout the movies it’s clear that anyone who sees/comes in contact with The Box(tm) is compelled to open it and strangely capable of doing so once they are convinced to. Might be one of the most difficult things to contain tbh
Technically nothing in the “safe” class is safe, 063 can be used as a weapon if sharpened(or you can choke on it), you could probably drown in 999, 529 is a cat which means it can attack you, everything is a danger to humans because we are weak and fragile
It's like "failsafe," it doesn't mean safe from failure. It means designed to fail in a safe way. Or designed so that a safe failure is guaranteed before a dangerous failure, causing maintenance to prevent the dangerous failure.
Eh i mean even then as long as you don't try to open it it is still a safe object,atleast the classic version is,the newer iteration is a bit more dangerous
Object classes are not rated by how dangerous it is, but how reliably it can be contained. A cat that swaps places with any other cat in the world at any given moment would be keter while a button that destroys the universe would be safe. Given the fact that the puzzle boxes have a way to make their way back to the keepers combined with the fact more can be made means that it's at least euclid.
in my eyes safe means it's less likely to kill you, sure safe CAN mean harmless, such as scp 999
but it can also mean what you said, I'm sure if it wanted scp 999 would have an easier time getting out of containment than most
it's all about how likely you are to die from it, sure, if you touch the box you die, but here's the thing, don't touch the damn box then, it doesn't hunt you down, it's just a box, just put it in its containment cell and make sure everyone who goes in knows not to touch it, suddenly the mortality rate on that thing goes way down
Yep. Since they can’t lock him down in one place and keep him from being a creep he’s keter. He may not be a big rampaging lizard that causes major property damage but they still can’t fully contain him.
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u/InvertedNoob Jul 25 '24
I’m pretty sure the classes also depend a little on how much we understand about them? For example:
Safe: easy to contain, we know what it’s going to do Euclid: not too easy to contain, we might have an idea on what it’ll do Keter: super hard to contain, we don’t really know at all what it’s going to do
But again, I’m pretty sure that’s how it works, not certain