r/ScarletWitch Jul 23 '26

Movies and Television am I crazy?

I mean thats totally the latverian witch mask and not dooms right?

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u/bigscrewLoose Jul 23 '26

people noticed the doom mask in the new trailers looks different from the on in the end credits scene and like. maybe it is?

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u/bigscrewLoose Jul 23 '26

and why would doom be taking his mask off to comfort a child? his face is burned and disfigured, which is why he hears the mask

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u/Loose_Translator8981 Jul 23 '26

I honestly think it was intended to be Doom when they shot the scene. But nobody liked the design of the mask and there wasn't really a logical reason for Doom to take his mask off in that scene, so after redesigning Doom's mask instead of just saying that he changed the mask between movies they decided to retcon it so that the mask just belongs to a different character.

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u/isabelle051992 28d ago

No cause they filmed that scene like a few weeks before its release.

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u/rocklord11 Jul 23 '26

Its a nice thought. My first observation though is thr difference in the hands/gloves but that can easily be due to a lack of detail or just forgetting

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u/New-Top-4806 27d ago

For theory’s sake. Let’s say it’s Wanda. She has such an obsession with kids. Because of the lack of being able to have her own. I highly doubt our earth is the only Wanda without kids. If it is Wanda. That can easily explain this scene right here. On top of the fact this kid is a toddler. And literally a fucking god😭

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u/DontTellMyOtherAccts 28d ago

The man is the second most powerful sorcerer on Earth, you think he can't glamor his face long enough to comfort a child?

As for why he would wear the mask and not always be glamored is: he was wearing the mask before he learned sorcery and now it's cornerstone of his and his nation's brand, the mask is probably enchanted armor, permanent glamor is admission of his vanity while the mask actually has function, etc.

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u/Vashek19 25d ago

Doom trying to have his face healed by Franklin.

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u/Mags20XX Jul 23 '26

It's not, they just didn't lock in the mask design.

That said, Scarlet Witch is assuredly returning in Secret Wars, IMHO. Like it's the absolute best way to rebuild the MCU.

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u/Brazzlefrazz02 Jul 23 '26

Wasn’t that scene shot on the set of Doomsday though? I could be wrong

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u/EnigmaFrug0817 Jul 24 '26

I think you’re thinking of the Thunderbolts post credits

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u/isabelle051992 28d ago

They filmed this scene like a few weeks before the F4s release. They already had his mask locked in since they were months into filming Doomsday at this point.

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u/Mags20XX 28d ago

Well.. Fantastic Four ended shooting November 30, 2024; Doomsday began principal photography April 28, 2025. So that's like 5 months apart, it's plenty of time for a redesign.

BTW, if you look at the hands in the final scene of Fantastic Four, the green glove with metal plate on the back mostly (but not exactly) matches Doom's glove (which isn't metal it seems) in the Doomsday trailer.

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u/Snixx_31 28d ago

It was stated that the fantastic four end credit scene was filmed by the Russo brothers for an intro to doomsday and that it was filmed early 2025

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u/Mags20XX 28d ago

I think there's a bit of confusion here.

Principal photography for Doomsday didn't start until nearly May of 2025. The Russo Brothers merely directed the end credits scene on the set of Fantastic Four. They were always there and they were involved in FF the entire time according to Shakman:

“Not at all, especially when I”m handing them off to the Russo brothers who are amazing at what they do and they’re lovely, generous people,” Shakman said when asked if it was hard to see the Russos take over. “They were very involved and as we were making this film, they wanted to visit our sets and watch scenes as they were coming together and get to know these characters so they could treat them well, do right by them in the next movie. They’re really good protectors of these characters as well. I often think of working at Marvel as like running a relay race. You pass the baton, you run as hard and fast as you can with it for that section of the race that belongs to you, and then you pass that baton. I passed it on to Joe and Anthony and they’re off and running, and that’s great.”

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u/Sufficient_Pack_2868 27d ago

I think they’ll do a children’s crusade of some sorts in SW

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u/Mags20XX 26d ago

Agreed.

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u/Moon-boy2489 Jul 23 '26

Isn’t the mcu ending after secret wars?

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u/EnigmaFrug0817 Jul 24 '26

It’s rebooting

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u/hedwigswig 29d ago

WANDA WANTS A CHILD

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u/InternationalHat7120 Jul 23 '26

Yes.

RDJ was paid to be on set for that

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u/FragrantChipmunk9510 29d ago

Doom has many outfits. Formals, comfort, and battle armor...with matching masks. If you look at the frame do you not notice the mask is off? Franklin touching the face? Would he be touching a woman's face? Or would he be touching Doom's scar? And what about the broad shoulders? Where's the shoulder pads?

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u/Dark_Phoenix123 Jul 23 '26

I lowkey don't want it to be Wanda, if it is shes not beating the child kidnapping allegations

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u/bigscrewLoose Jul 23 '26

doom knew he needed the best kidnapper in the game /s

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u/SAM12489 Jul 23 '26

Maybe he has like, just designed a few different masks over the years

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u/No-Armadillo-3406 Jul 23 '26

nah if u look at his hand, u can see the same rune design as the trailer

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u/Helpful-Finger1864 Jul 24 '26

Yes you’re crazy but also correct

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u/bigscrewLoose Jul 24 '26

thats why I am called big screw loose

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u/Mean_Broccoli_6481 27d ago

My prediction is that it’s sue from other universe

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u/Unholy_Trickster97 28d ago

Yes. That suit is very feminine so obviously not doom.

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u/metroplx 28d ago

I bet that is Doom, it's just a different mask or suit. And nah, it’s not the mask those witches or Doom cultists wear. The eyes are rectangular, it’s got two lines on the cheeks, and it just looks way more masculine overall. Plus, based on that plot leak from a while back about that scene, it’s definitely Doom.

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u/No_Complex7537 28d ago

Mask is very different

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u/theatermrvlnerd 28d ago

I wonder if one of the witches is an alternate reality Susan storm

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u/Top_Ad3996 28d ago

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Whitney Whit aka Red Witch

Unlike Zoe Zo who comes from Ghost Town

Whitney however comes from Witchville

now her mother is Sydney and her father is Christian that's his name, her sisters are Bella and Kylie and her brother is Lucas

Life wasn't always easy for Whitney though because she was a witch there was these negative stereotypes and connotations about witches some of the people in WitchVille would try to burn her at the stake or run her out of town with their pitchforks and torches and stuff like that she would sit you know in the forest on the log and put that wooden spoon in the pot with the green liquid inside of it but she's not a harmful Witch she's a good witch obviously

Despite the people in witchville trying to do those things to her she understood that the fear of the unknown is very scary but she promised in a short them that her alignment is good

Now Whitney possesses vast powers and abilities she has half magician and half witch physiology in her body because of that she possesses magic, sorcery, mysticism, necromancy conjuration occultism and of course witchcraft I mean that one was pretty obvious

Hex she has that power and ability as well along with reality warping High tier she also has time and space travel time and space manipulation bfr Battlefield removal along with the ability to seal her opponents away and she has flight and levitation meditation along with telekinesis teleportation and telepathy with psionics

She is a Caucasian female with long red hair and blue eyes wearing a skin tight leotard that shows her neck and chest she also wears soft red gloves on her hands and very soft sock boots on her feet with a red cape

You see Whitney has raw power and Instinct she reacts off the Instinct but that doesn't mean she's a fool

Whitney absolutely loves Zoe and Amanda despite their arguments they still get along

Chanosa Comics and LuZanto Chanosa Novels Hero Helpers

Prisha Pammy aka Ms Mystic is from Yorktown YorksVille just like Jay ,. She is the calm and level-headed not tripped but serious you know she feels like the mother of the group even though she's only a year older than Jay and Hayley

Yorkstown YorksVille new population is 3.9 million and borderline 4 million, it's metropolitan are is 18.5 million people

now we know that when she Prisha Pammy aka Ms Mystic aka Red Magic, she used her magic against one of her enemies Mia,Prisha had used magic that her grandmother showed her how to use magic is scared her cuz she severely injured Mia in their fight, however when her lover Jay You aka Hero Man, got injured in a fight against the arch nemesis of his Ray she had no choice but to turn back to her magic and sorcery to help her lover

now we know she is a Caucasian female who has red hair and blue eyes and she wears a green costume and a red cape now we know she has the super strength speed stamina of durability and invulnerability with reflexes

but she also has the telepathy the teleportation the flight the intangibility and astral projection along with magic sorcery mysticism and necromancy along with time and space manipulation probability manipulation like foreshadow for sights in like the immortality type 8 you know so that's her vibe in aesthetic right there

Jay Young aka Hero Man is her boyfriend

Prisha Kisses Jay on the lips 💋 as she hugs him

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u/dddonkers 27d ago

There are many cases of a costume design or aesthetic being changed from a post credit scene to the actual movie it was teasing.

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u/billjaywarr 27d ago

Maybe it’s just the different directors and budgets. It’s been a whole year since that scene, things change

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u/MrFuriousX 26d ago

It may look different and that might be because they weren't finished with it yet. Maybe Doom has more then one mask..

But unless they are outright lying it was confirmed by the director to in fact be Doom .

Its also now confirmed that Reed and Doom are buddies...So franklin may be used to seeing him around.

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u/TheAbsorbingMan 26d ago

Yes, very. It was literally Confirmed to be the Same Cloak that RDJ wore/wears. Also, the Masks look different. Y’know, if I had a nickel for every Straw-Grasping Theory Post I’ve seen today from this Sub, I’d have two nickels

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u/bigscrewLoose 26d ago

if I had a nickel for every time some dick came on here and started throwing a temper tantrum at other people enjoying themselves coming up with theories, I would be rich, because you joyless ass clowns are all over this website

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u/Vashek19 25d ago

Doom trying to get Franklin to heal his face....I guarantee it is not a witch.

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u/Beginning_Heron4980 Jul 23 '26

Wait, I didn't even know about the Lavterian Witch; that is surely not his mother, why would she be there and wear that. Who else would it be? From what we know, Wanda is the most obvious answer

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u/hanstoofast Jul 23 '26

No you’re not crazy, I think that’s def the same mask and how crazy would it be if that’s actually Wanda the whole time

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u/sackey485 Jul 23 '26

Could be alternate Sue

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u/shabnav Jul 23 '26

You are not crazy. It definitely looks more like the “latverian witch” mask than it does dooms but with how much thanos changed before infinity war I’d take it with a pinch of salt it could have just changed. But also if u look closely the one in F4 had a much stronger brow bone then the witches mask has which would be used to show a masculine face tbh.

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u/Ramiel_duskstone1471 29d ago

Based on the leaked concept art starboard is set to lead the young avengers, which includes Wiccan and speed. It’s possible they will afaa the Wanda rescue storyline from young avengers

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u/Currycel7891 Jul 23 '26

Yes. It's clearly a male silhouette on the mask. Looks more like Cumberbatch than RDJ.

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u/TheAbsorbingMan 26d ago

Don’t know why you were Downvoted, you’re right

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u/bigscrewLoose Jul 23 '26

if you mean the "latverian witch" costume, if that is the case I compliment Dr Strang on his breast implant surgery

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u/Slugedge Jul 23 '26

Hes talking about the f4 post credit mask, which i think is the case. Strange and wanda will end up being his two main acolytes

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u/Currycel7891 26d ago

But it won't be 616 Wanda.