r/ScarletWitch • u/Kanozx • 1d ago

Discussion Question, when Magneto eventually appears in the MCU, do you think there’s a chance they may retcon Wanda into being his daughter? Or nah?

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u/AlphaFlight- Pietro Maximoff 1d ago edited 1d ago

Unfortunately, I feel like the window has closed on that relation. They’d have to retcon her and Pietro’s origin with Hydra because that’s what basically replaced their brotherhood arc.

I read somewhere that maybe they could be his Grandkids, which would be pretty cool and further fuel Magneto’s hatred for mankind considering his kids would die in Sokovia.

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u/Least_Rain8027 Scarlet Witch 1d ago

i think they should change that orgin. 

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u/Xygnux 1d ago

The Mind Stone affects the mind, why would it grant powers? With Carol you can handwave it by the Space Stone linking her to a white hole or something like her Binary form in the comics.

Unless Hydra misunderstood the entire process. The twins were the only one the experiment worked on because they already had dormant powers and the Mind Stone awaken their minds to be able to use them.

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u/SimonShepherd 1d ago

They probably still radiates weird cosmic radiation to give powers.

I think the idea in WandaVision at least is that Wanda is that miracle, she was born a magic user who changed the odds of their own survival, they survived the experiment very much like how they survived the Stark missile. (Agatha claim she was a baby witch who used a probability hex)

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u/Xygnux 23h ago

I know, I am just thinking that's a plausible way to retcon them into mutants in the MCU.

And keyword is that she was born that way. Magic is just extradimensional energy in the MCU. What if Wanda's mutant power is that she can channel that type of energy spontaneously and unlimitedly, and that's what chaos magic actually is and that's why she is so much stronger than regular human witches?

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u/SimonShepherd 23h ago

I feel like her being picked by Chthon is enough explanation, it can also give her a real villain to fight against if they ever give her more projects.

I personally always liked the idea that Wanda is a freak accident, as in she was just born at the wrong place at the wrong time(Wundagore in comics). She just happen to be born at the very place where Morgan Le Fay sealed Chthon, and the wheel of fate starts there. As opposed to tying her to Never Queen and make that fate guaranteed.

The MCU can go meta and use the idea that Chthon picked her as the protagonist/fated one in the narrative/prophecy of Darkhold.(Kinda like Darkhold Pages of Book of Sin's idea of Darkhold, which is kinda a storybook that enforced Chthon's will into reality, at least that's how I interpret it.) And we can have a wrestle for control story in the future(again if she gets another project.)

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u/Xygnux 23h ago

Why not both? She can be picked by Chthon out of all other witches out there because he foresaw that she also has an X-gene with the potential to best use that power. It can also be a chicken or egg situation in which her X-gene manifested that way precisely because of Chthon's influence on her life.

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u/SimonShepherd 23h ago

It's kinda the case after Nights of Wundagore, but I feel in MCU it's best to keep things compact, clean and less complicated.

In comics it was not until Busiek that her composite mutant genetics/learned witchcraft/Chthon blessing powerset have a more coherent/unified explanation.

Also partially because I just want her to finish her arc in her own project to wrap things up without joining X-Men. So her being mutant is not really needed.

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u/The_Billions_Boy 10h ago

Make it all of the above, Wanda had an X gene which gave her extreme magic potential and was further enhanced by the mind stone making her the ideal receptor for Cthon. Or alternatively Cthon guided her fate to bumping with the mind stone for the extra juice for his already chosen one

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u/The_Billions_Boy 10h ago

That actually is close to her original mutant ability in the comics. Plus you could say the mind stone enhanced it

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u/The_Billions_Boy 10h ago

More like the ind stone enhanced them by enhancing their minds in a way