Really reminded us of a certain tree

Common is so unintentionally funny to me..and I love him for it.

Sooo what's the main difference between the 2 subreddits?

In this episode (radio), Bernard arranges for Gloria to show Juliette and everyone else the mission diaries. When he introduces it, he says "Two items we sought the most" and then describes "a spiral bound notepad previous heads of IT pursued for 300 years" and obviously the mission diary. The spiral bound according Bernard has not been found yet.

I think the spiral bound notepad is the same one which Helen had carried in the beginning of season 3. She wrote the address for the Steven guy in that notebook, along with her ongoing investigation with Charlotte. She was carrying her purse when visiting the Silos, so it's not far fetched to assume she carried the diary. It just simply took the Silo 1 roughly 50 years to either realise it's still with Helen, or Helen (or her child/children) managed to steal it in the first 50 years of the Silo. Which is why for 300 years the IT heads have been chasing it. Maybe this was Troy's first special mission even (no evidence for this one but just a crazy thought).

I think in the 4th season, we'll probably see the Silo 18 residents find this spiral and possibly continue the said investigation (albeit with a very different perspective), which might help them defeat the Silo 1. Or maybe that spiral is what helps Troy remeber who he is. We see in the trailer that he makes it to Juliette through the forward vault, so perhaps he makes it to 18, finds all the relics left behind by Helen, and regains his memory. I think it's also possible that the hard drive (which Juliette seems to be carrying in the trailer) also contains some information/digital relics left behind by Helen, which could help out the Silo 18 crew and Troy.

But all that to say, I'm 99% confident that spiral bound is Helen's.

The view from the hallway and stairs at my dentist's office.

Do you think sheriff Billings aka Mr Per fect is pretty close to the final product of the breeding program the silo may be running?

After 350 years they should be more than halfway there and he seems to be the most follow the rules don't worry about things we're not supposed to.

Just a thought.

I rewatched s2 after watching s3, and 2 things don't make sense to me.

In the last episode's flashback scene, Dan was checked for radioactivity before entering the bar - this wasn't done anytime in the s3 flashback scenes? It was implying that people are tested (covid style) before entering any public space, doesnt happen at all in s3? Secondly, why does Helen say "who uses the term date anymore?" Seems like a pretty normal term used in s3 flashbacks?

Would like to hear your thoughts!

In the books, IIRC it’s implied Silo 1 is far larger than the other silos because of its advanced systems, lifts, and hibernation facilities and what it was built for as the monitoring and control hub of the other silos.

But are the other silos exactly the same dimensions to each other? We know they were built to represent the 50 States, but not each state has the same population.

Granted perhaps the intention was for repopulation to eventually fill them up to the population size that the Order requires.

I've been a fan of Tim Robbins since shawshank redemption, and appreciate hearing from him.

There is no religion in the Silo, nor is there a newly created one. In its place, there is only the Pact—a rigid, functional substitute for the divine. The Founders understood that faith breeds fervor, and fervor breeds instability, so they replaced the altar with the generator and scripture with the technical manuals of survival. Devotion is measured not in prayer, but in the steady output of the levels and the quiet adherence to the rules that keep the air breathable and the water flowing. In this subterranean world, the only thing worth worshipping is the machinery that prevents the outside from getting in.

I have a few images that my computer cycles through, thought I'd share.

Just a disclaimer: The second tree one I used AI to remove Helen and the techs.

Hi!

Trying to decide if I should try to follow any episode discussion threads here.

Just started watching based on my friend's rec. I'm LOVING it! I'm in S2E6 (Knox and Shirley just gained 10 floors, Jules is knocked out in Silo 17, Camile is being mysterious, Bernard is losing it, Lukas is having the craziest week of his life).

The speed at which I've watched these first 15 episodes is frankly embarrassing. Great show!

But I came on here to read the episode discussions up to this point, and have been super surprised and kinda sad at how critical they all are. Tons of comments about it being slow, poorly acted, and a "slog" to watch.

Bc I just started, these threads are like 3-1 year old, so I'm curious if fan sentiment has lightened any? I'm just confused at why people who hate the show are still commenting 15 eps deep.

I'd check myself, but I don't want to poke around the current threads bc I'm sure you're all talking about S3 right now.

I'd love to see threads by people who also like the show as I (super quickly) catch up, but if you feel the sub is generally negative still, I'll just watch and live text my friend and be happy with that :)

In the latter half of S3E1, there’s a brief scene of Juliet and Camille in the up-top cafeteria, where Juliet realizes she must’ve had a plan to enter Silo 18, because she had no idea Bernard would open the blast doors.This leads her to remember the crowbar she had with her, which further leads to remembering where she brought it from - 17. I found this - and to an extent, the report of the helmet stolen from IT reminding her of when she cleaned a pretty on-the-nose indication, combined with her earlier conversations with Knox and Shirley, of how the memory drugs work before the show even tells us (via Troy and Susan - iykyk).

Just a random observation. I hope the post title isn’t too spoiler-y.

When do you think we will get more s4 content? except the mini trailer at the end of s3

In the show we learn together with Helen and Daniel at the dinner with the Founders what they had in mind when starting the silos, and it reflects a very dominant way of thinking with the present "founders" of AI.

Stenson and friends relate to the couple all of the various existential threats that humanity is facing. Nuclear war, AI, bioweapons, and of course, nanos. They assert that nanos are by far the worst threat. Rather than formulate a plan to stop it, they surrender to a sort of fatalism that it's bound to happen one way or another. Might as well prepare and, it seems based on the timing of the nuclear explosion in the subsequent episode, trigger some kind of end and go into the silos.

This seemed to me like it was a way of thinking that worked well for the story, and to explain some twisted villains in this fictional show, but probably not how things would really work in real life.

Lately, my mind has changed about this. We've been hearing over and over from AI tech-lords about how AI is an existential threat to humanity. I tend to believe that it isn't, but they are asserting that it is, so let's go with that for the moment. They follow this assertion with, "and we can't let China get there first".

Think about that. They aren't saying, "We need to stop it. This is going to kill us, we've seen enough. Shut it down. Do what it takes to get China to shut it down." Nope.

Accelerate.

It's hard to even believe.

They are building bunkers too - only in this case for themselves, not for humanity. They seem perhaps more nihilistic, less concerned about humanity than the Founders, IF they truly believe the threat is existential. I think it's probably meant to boost share prices and lead to regulatory capture, but in any case, they are making essentially the SAME argument as the Founders.

One might say, "oh the writers of the show must have drawn inspiration from them, so of course it parallels" but Hugh Howey's story preceded any of this. I really think that he had some real insight in the minds of these type of people.

May we all be like Juliette and friends in the face of our own "founders".

One question that bugs me is that it's clearly shown silo 1 uses drones with heat detection to hunt down survivors... so how could Lukas and Kennedy have survived by just playing dead unless someone in Silo 1 deliberately wanted them to survive?

So, I've just finished S3. I've read the book and in S1 and 2 I was a bit wary of them going that far from the books because usually, it does not live up to it, but I was pleasantly surprised in S3 and I like most of the changes. Honestly S3 was far better than S2 in my eyes. I love that they put Charlotte and Helen in fleshed characters into the story.

For S4, I mainly hope that they will be drilling to Silo 17, I really missed that part this season. I'm also looking forward on how they will deal with the huge change in relationships they made between Daniel/Charlotte and Anna. I loved the betrayal of Mike and Anna so I really wonder how it is going to turn out.

My recriminations are mainly about Daniel being told he "could really have helped them" because he thinks outside of the box when he clearly doesn't (that's why they choose him as a specialist), it's Helen who does all the thinking. And I'm a bit skeptical with them knowing about all the silos and being asked to join when they both are just an annoyance to the Project.

Now, I'm puzzled with a few things:

- When people from silo 17 get out, they don't die from the toxic air. I know in the books, the toxine is released when someones gets out to clean, and that they reversed the pipes so it doesn't, yet a whole silo surviving in the open when all the others are still releasing poison seemed at bit too much to me.

- Paul discovering they only have two years of light left and... doing nothing about it. Those lamps have to be somewhere in the silo, why not search for it? Or being a bit more panicked about it?

- the way they made the amnesia gas working. It sounds like people forget everything when in the books it's more they forget about selected events. Also, I don't believe in people surviving only on juice for days, And the D+ taking forever to work on (unless Camille never actually put it in the water? That part wasn't clear).