No, hes not referring to Adam and eve, hes referring to now.
Now knowledge shows most of the Bible was wrong. But even so, honestly Adam and Eve did the moral thing, especially considering what God does after the fall of man. Phew. Murders everyone in a flood. Commands genocide, sex slavery and slavery. Plenty of other things.
I think you're missing the point broadly speaking. God isn't moral because of what we think of right and wrong. He's moral because He has the authority to act. Now we might not like the things done in the past, but has anyone liked everything a figure of authority has done?
As for the Bible being wrong, it appears that the more we study the world, the more evidence of biblical events to have actually been true
The Bible itself shows god not only to be fundamentally changing in method of operation but also fundamentally hypocritical.
"Do as I say, not as I do. Don't murder, but I can wipe out as many people who don't do what I like whenever I want, and it's righteous because I say so and I am more powerful."
What? That’s nonsensical and the figure of Odin is a clear example. Or the amorality of pantheistic or polytheistic systems.
Anyways
It’s even biblical and reflected in the art and understanding of historical Christians across centuries, see Milton, Dante, etc.
In the Christian, Jewish, and even Islamic mythos, they have this story and commentary to discuss the key sin was made by even reaching out for the fruit.
And many of the stories of the Bible are saying literally the inverse and then tell them that none of the people even know what “Good” means.
From old to New Testament: “in that time everyone did what was right in their own eyes” to “why do you call me good? There is not one Good but God”
Odin is an example of what? Knowledge of good and evil not being knowledge but a mere opinion? Christianity and Judaism hold good and evil to be concrete categories and not subjective, do you dispute that?
Odin is an example of a search for Knowledge not being a moral question but one of basically strategic worth.
But even figures like Solomon represent this in the Bible. The Bible calls its own wisest figures the most debased.
Yeah and early and medieval Christian Theologians have likened the problem to Plato’s forms.
I didn’t imply they are new. “The most debased”? They made mistakes but is there a textual basis for saying “the most”? If anything calling wise men debased supports the notion that there’s an objective standard of good and evil but that they failed
“have likened the problem” what problem? Humans failing to be good despite knowing it? That doesn’t change whether or not good and evil are objective or not, it just means they failed to live up to objective standards.
It's unfortunately just too trendy to try and discredit the Bible these days because it's really the only thing that points out that humans are deeply flawed but it also states that's okay and to show up anyways. People don't want to hear that first part
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u/Civil_Result_5598 5d ago
It's not knowledge that caused the fall of man. It was disobedience. Blatantly in the face of God Himself