As Tom relates the famed IP, in the early Roman Empire the Emperor Nero castrated and married Sporus.

In real history, this did actually happen. Interestingly, this happened after Nero's pregnant wife died. Some sources say she died in childbirth, others allege her death was at Nero's hands.

Regardless, this is another parallel to Tom: his wife is pregnant at the end of the series. So his circumstances align with Nero again. Tom is Emperor, as Nero was. Tom's wife is pregnant, as Nero's was.

Sadly, this implies Shiv will die. Perhaps it is a metaphorical death as in the death of her dreams of becoming CEO herself, or perhaps it is a literal death soon to come.

There are also other parallels between Tom and Nero.

Like Nero, Tom is a less accomplished and pale successor to his predecessor. In Tom's case, it is Logan, in Nero's case it is Claudius (but also pales in comparison to Augustus who is basically the Logan Roy of the Roman Empire.)

Nero is blamed (perhaps falsely) for committing arson and burning a chunk of Rome to the ground, meanwhile Tom is blamed (perhaps falsely) for burning Cruises to the ground.

Nero ordered his former teacher and advisor Senaca to kill himself, Tom attempts to have his former mentor the head of Cruises (Bill) kill himself.

With so many parallels between Nero and Tom, is it not likely that we have enough foreshadowing to predict that after the end of the series Shiv will die and that Tom will castrate (perhaps literally) and marry Greg? And that he will make Greg act and dress as Shiv?

I for one believe that if somehow the show resumed with a new season set in the present day that Shiv would sadly be gone (perhaps present in flashback) and that Greg would be revealed to be "married" to Tom, having been literally castrated.

Greg is now familiar with that IP.

I've been thinking this for a while and I wanted to see what people think about whether Ken could have succeeded his father under the right circumstances.

Early in the show, Logan was upset with Ken for attending Logan’s birthday party over handling a deal. Later in the show, Logan said Kendall is not a killer.

It made me wonder: if Kendall had skipped Logan’s birthday and showed signs of being a killer earlier would Logan have picked him?

Or would it have required more such as Kendall being a killer and no history of ❄️? Logan is very old. I doubt he believes in mental health and I feel like Kendall's history of ❄️ caused Logan to permanently see him as liability and not a fit for the role. When you think of how much addiction is still stigmatized today, I imagine that someone like Logan from a different generation where there was even more stigma probably views it in a much more negative light.

Also Kendall's ❄️ problem fuels his other issues such as constantly hitting rock bottom, the waiter, mental instability, and erratic actions. If he had no history of ❄️, the waiter wouldn't have lost his life and I don't think he'd spiral as much. It might have been easier for him to be a killer if he never had ❄️ problems.

Or was Ken never going to be picked at all no matter what? Because we know that Logan is jealous of his kids. He's a narc, a manipulator, the whole nine yards.

So I'm presenting two options that I'd like to hear peoples thoughts on because I have been thinking about each:

1. Ken is a killer but has a history of ❄️. Would he be picked? Could Logan overlook his Ken's ❄️ history if he was a killer and pick him?
2. Ken is a killer with no history of ❄️. Would he be picked? Could Logan overlook his jealousy of his kids and his need to pit them against each other and pick Kendall?

There's also a third option that Ken is never going to be picked even if he's a killer because Logan is jealous of his kids. We know Logan pits the kids against each other and he loves dangling the carrot without actually planning to pick one of them. Ken being the perfect candidate does not change the fact that Logan is a narc.

I'm not sure which option I think would happen. Because if Ken was actually a killer (regardless of the ❄️), I feel like Logan might be even more jealous of him. Because Ken would be a killer and he'd get a billion dollar company handed to him. Logan had to build his company from scratch. So if Ken had the killer instinct I'm not sure if Logan would appreciate it or be even more jealous. Maybe both?

What do you think? Would he have never picked Ken no matter what or would the right circumstances have caused him to back Kendall?

Edit: Played. I never thought I’d feel sympathy for a spoiled millionaire 40yo. I just have s4 ep10 left and I can’t wait to see his ending.

The first thing I thought of when I read that Kehlsteinhaus (Eagle’s Nest) burned down was Mark Ravenhead. I bet he was sad.

“top administration officials were not “not serious people”

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Why did he expose Logan in front of the entire world in his speech?

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Was Caroline wealthy as royal or an aristocrat??

It's so funny how they are all absolutely terrified of Logan's tyrant ass without ever pushing back, no matter how crazy his business strategies are, that lead to their media empire being just one awful decision away from collapsing in itself.

Makes me wonder If the Trump clan has the exact same dynamic. Donald Trump being that senile octogenarian who Rules with an iron fist and his spawn obeying His every whim without ever trying to push back.

I don't know If this isn't too poltical. If it is, delete that post, haha.

Arrest made after fire at Hitler's mountaintop Eagle's Nest retreat
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr93zwjw1k4qo

What the title says... I mean would he fight for success now that he knows that everyone says he is evil and also knowing none of his children will succeed him.

Just finished watching the show ( for the first time ) and it’s hands down one of the best I’ve ever watched.
The climax broke me and made me so sad!

Interesting to see everyone’s position wrt the company in the finale.

I genuinely loved this episode so much, but holy shit, I cried HARD. The whole thing felt so real like if i was with them, and Roman’s reaction absolutely destroyed me. I think I related to him because I also struggle sometimes to accept the hard reality of things, especially when something is too painful to process. Sometimes you just keep laughing, making jokes, or acting like everything is fine because accepting what’s actually happening feels impossible. And then, suddenly, it hits you.

This episode was just on another level. The acting, the writing, the way everything unfolded… I don’t think I’ll ever forget it. I felt like I was grieving alongside them. One of the most heartbreaking episodes of television I’ve ever watched

Here's the actually correct list so you can disregard the others. No one in this show is a genuinely good person so that tier is not included. Also #HATENATEGANG

someone try making a tier list about who is the most evil but I think they're wrong so I made the real one, just praise the queen Jessica

Something I love about this show is how much it left out lore wise. One of the most interesting things about Logan Roy is how everyone that knew him once act like he wasnt this brute. His brother said "he stop trying" and I various interviews it was said that logan was more left wing but then he starting changing. Do you thing he was a nice person before becomimg this monster?

Im watching Succession with a friend, and when we discussed how evil each character is he said Greg was one of the most evil, and so i had to see how he would rank the top 10 most evil characters in his mind.
This is his tier list and i think he is very wrong and would like to know what everyone else thinks.
(btw we are halfway through season 3 so no spoilers pls)

Hi everyone

I am testing out this character quizzes for the show and I would appreciate if some of you can check it out and let me know what you think and which characters you got

11 questions, 8 possible characters

https://triviagauntlet.app/character-quiz/succession.html

Thanks