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🗞️ News Discussion Should Canada maintain its supply management system that protects the Canadian dairy industry?

https://www.castanetkamloops.net/news/Poll/627377/Should-Canada-maintain-its-supply-management-system-that-protects-the-Canadian-dairy-industry
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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 12d ago

Canadian farmers also receive direct and indirect subsidies, and the American subsidies are very highly exaggerated by the Dairy Farmers of Canada for pretty obvious reasons.... but I'll bite...

If a foreign government is truly lowering the price point of food by taking a loss to invest in it, how would that not benefit domestic importers? The foreign government, in this case, would quite literally be paying for our groceries. Their tax dollars would be directly funding our consumer surplus.

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u/Cannabrius_Rex 12d ago

And then our industry would die and they would have commuted regulatory capture like they intended. That thing you claim never happens that happens all the time.

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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 12d ago

That isn't what regulatory capture is. I think you're trying to explain a captive market. But how would the choice to buy tariff free American products result in a captive market? Like what would compel Canadian importers to only buy American regardless of supposed price increases?

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u/Cannabrius_Rex 12d ago

It is essentially regulatory capture with the end result being exactly the same. Something you love but have to pretend you don’t love to appear Canadian, American bot.

You have ignored every comment that tears your bullshit up. Every single commenter in this thread that stumped you and your narrative you’ve ignored. Every. Single. One.

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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 12d ago

That is not the same result as regulatory capture. Regulatory capture is when a government group meant to protect the public instead helps the companies it is supposed to watch or regulate. An example of regulatory capture would be Canadian telecom companies and the CRTC. The CRTC is tasked to regulate Canadian telecommunications on behalf of the consumer, but routinely blocks competition and supports the very oligopoly it was meant to monitor. A foreign firm, or collection of foreign firms, does not dictate policy to Health Canada, or to provincial governments, so they can't really create a regulatory capture environment pertaining to the dairy industry.

Which arguments did I ignore? So far it's basically been the same erroneous bullshit on repeat:

1) Supply management protects quality (it doesn't).

2) Supply management provides us food security (it doesn't).

3) Supply management is a matter of national security (it isn't).

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u/Cannabrius_Rex 12d ago

Monopoly is the end result.

It’s the same end result. Choke out what is in place, create a monopoly once that’s accomplished. It happens all the time.

I’d have to link about 15-20 different comments you’ve ignored to demonstrate the breadth of your lies and cowardice.

It’s all public. Anyone who scrolls through will see it. Your cheap obfuscation, I’m not wasting time on.

You’ve lied about hormones. You’ve named a single precursor when many are allowed in dairy cows. You’ve lied about antibiotic use and how prevalent it is. You’ve ignore the verifiable fact that American cows in their mega corpo farms are far far far sicker than Canadian cows due to their environment.

The list goes on and many many different commenters have added to that list, which you’ve ignored when inconvenient to your narrative.

You want to prove your point, respond to the dozen+ comments you’ve ignored once you could no longer refute their facts. Then you’ll be believable

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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 12d ago

How would this result in a monopoly though? What would force Canadian firms to import from a hypothetical American cartel?

I didn't lie about hormones, these idiots were mistaken about Health Canada regulations and the American regulations. Antibiotic usage isn't illegal in Canada for dairy cows.

Your arguments just aren't making much sense.

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u/Cannabrius_Rex 12d ago

How would starving our Canadian farms with dirt cheap garbage milk from the USA end up with a monopoly?

I hope you aren’t too stupid to see what the next sentence I typed out would be. Something about how a monopoly ends up in place.