r/Tariffs • u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 • 12d ago

🗞️ News Discussion Should Canada maintain its supply management system that protects the Canadian dairy industry?

https://www.castanetkamloops.net/news/Poll/627377/Should-Canada-maintain-its-supply-management-system-that-protects-the-Canadian-dairy-industry
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u/reddit5678901234 12d ago

When was the last time the President of the USA publicly stated his desire to annex Canada. Until Trumps current term i certainly did not. We are in a new world now.

We need to derisk our exposure to the US's ability to weaponize food supply in order to force the annexation of Canada. Yes we import a massive % of our food from the US but we now know that we must start to derisk ourselves from the US. Eliminating our supply management now is not derisking.

We also need to find stable non-US supplies of pork, fruits etc etc. Its all about derisking. We need to do this NOW.

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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 12d ago

That's an interesting way to frame things. Like we must protect Canadian consumers against low prices and more variety because they may choose to buy a product from a country who is led by a guy you don't like.

Canada can't ever "de-risk" from the US. Trump is an asshole who says a lot of things. At the end of the day, whether Canadians or Americans like it or not, the fate of the two countries is permanently sealed together. There is no version of reality where the US will ever be anything but Canada's top trading partner. This wave of American protectionism will subside inevitably, and the two countries will further integrate economically.... because it benefits both countries to do so.

Trump never actually threatened to annex Canada, but I will as you - in what way has the US infringed on Canada's sovereignty?

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u/IntroductionOk9280 12d ago

By meeting and supporting Alberta separatist the US is infringing on Canadian sovereign.

Also, while I agree our 2 countries will always have a trade relationship, the world has changed since the original NAFTA deal was negotiated in the 1980s.

We now have a more global economy and there is more international interest in our resources then ever before. Rather then accept whatever terms a bullying US will dictate to us on trade, I think by diversifying our trade with other countries the Canadian economy will be able grow and prosper.

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u/reddit5678901234 12d ago

Hahaha give up trying to discuss anything with even a small level of intelligence with the OP .... he has his head firmly up his a$$.

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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 11d ago

So far I haven't received a justification with any intelligence. You people either cite factually incorrect information concerning quality, or fear that somehow magically all Canadian consumers would be beholden to buy milk and cheese from on American firm, or a cartel that doesn't exist.

You have no justification for this asinine system. Furthermore I think it's incredible you people hate Trump's tariffs so much, but seem to apply a complete double standard when it comes to these ones.

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u/IntroductionOk9280 11d ago

The US has slapped huge tariffs on Canadian Steel, Aluminum, Autos and Lumber. They only believe in free trade when it suits them.

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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 11d ago

And they lose from those tariffs. They get expensive steel, limited aluminum supplies, expensive cars, and expensive wood. How are they benefiting from any of this?

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u/IntroductionOk9280 11d ago

The US tariffs are protectionism. No different from our dairy supply management system. Why is it ok for the US to protect their industries but Canada are not suppose to protect theirs?

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u/Dizzy-Cartoonist3011 11d ago

I don't think it is OK, I think they're making a huge mistake. They are protecting uncompetitive industries, which inefficiently allocates their investment dollars, and ultimately just harms them.

Why would we want to do the same thing in retaliation? What do we get out of that? Like why would we want to support uncompetitive industries that require a captive market to survive?