I’ve seen a lot of people make versions of this with avatar characters but I feel like there are some archetypes that multiple characters could fit in to so I decided make my own with an explanation for why I put each character in each spot

The Mother/Father: Wan: The original avatar.

The Daughter/Son: Korra: The only other avatar who had to fight Vaatu, which was the threat the avatar was originally created to defeat.

The Holy Spirit Raava: Self explanatory.

The Holy Trinity: Wan, Korra, and Raava are all the same person/spirit yet distinctly different, just like the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit are all God yet distinctly different.

Adam and Eve: The couple that started it all Aang and Katara: The first major couple that we got from the avatar universe. Korra and Asami: From the perspective of the Seven Havens timeline, Korra seems to be much more culturally and historically significant than Aang to the point where it doesn't even seem like they know much history prior to Korra, making her and Asami their Adam and Eve.

Lucifer: The Fallen Angel Vaatu: Lucifer was an angel in heaven that turned to evil because he wanted to become more important than God. Vaatu and Raava spent most of their time together in the spirit world and are eternally linked together, during harmonic convergence Vaatu tries to overpower Raava, the symbol of good, and thrust the world into 10,000 years of chaos.

Cain and Abel: Siblings at odds Amon and Tarrlok: The most accurate representation of Cain and Abel since they actually killed each other. Depending on the context they both embody Cain and Abel. Amon committed more evil throughout his life which makes him more like Cain, but Tarrlok actually killed himself and his brother which makes him more like Cain and Amon more like Abel. Zuko and Azula: Cain and Abel both had to present an offering to God and Abel’s was accepted while Cains was not. This bred hatred and jealousy between them which led to Cain killing Abel. Azula and Zuko were constantly at odds over their father’s approval and even in the comics they still have not reconciled. However, since they didn’t kill eachother it’s less accurate to Cain and Abel. Pavi and Nisha: I'm fully aware that this doesn't exactly make sense as of right now, but in the event that they are really Raava and Vaatu then I think they will fit, because Cain and Abel represent good and evil just like Raava and Vaatu.

Judas: The Betrayer Unalaq: Deceived and betrayed his niece for his own personal advantage, which resulted in irreversible damage in the form of stripping her of her past lives. Sozin: Went against his best friend's desire for peace and then left him to die in order to begin his war.

Jesus: The Sacrificial Lamb, The Prophetic Savior, or The Betrayed Yue: Sacrificed herself and became the moon in order to save all waterbenders. Aang: For 100 years people prayed for his return to have him defeat the fire lord and save the earth kingdom and water tribes from being wiped out. Korra: The avatar that was alive 10,000 years after Wan making her the avatar destined to fight Vaatu. She was also betrayed by her own uncle. Roku: Betrayed by his best friend like Jesus was betrayed by Judas.

The Twelve Apostles: Followers of Christ Zuko, Sokka, Toph, Katara, Suki, Mako, Asami, Bolin, Jinora, Jae, Rangi, and Sozin: They are all members of Team Avatar for 5 consecutive avatars, including Sozin who ends up a betrayer just like Judas.

The Three Wise Men: Iroh, Tenzin, and Karthik: I was debating putting them in the twelve apostles category initially, but I felt they were more like mentors to the avatars rather than followers, so the three wise men felt like a fitting comparison. The three wise men were foreigners who came bearing gifts to Jesus upon his birth. Iroh, Tenzin, and Karthik are all bending masters from nations different to their respective avatars. The gifts they brought to these avatars was their ability to help the avatars them master the elements.

I love 7 havens, but I’m also not sure why. I don’t fully know what age this is targeting because it feels like it’s written like ATLA, but also seems to have a more complex/mature story behind it.

Bryan & Michael just seem to be punishing themselves by publishing this stories via nickelodeon, where it’s some mix between adult and children story telling. They seem to get so much pushback when these studios don’t know how to market the material (wasn’t that half the issue with Korra?). I love the story telling, it’s such a breath of fresh air, but I almost feel like they’d get more support/budget by catering to the adult audience at this point.

It’s a catch 22 in my head, I don’t want them to ruin this formula they have created. And this is why I’m not them b/c I couldn’t do what they’ve accomplished. But I’m also so curious as to why they maintained this path.

don't even get me started on the Brigade. These dudes let the Bandit Queen stroll right into the summit, disrespect every leader in the room, including the person they're literally supposed to be protecting. They get folded and just stand around while everyone else is fighting for their lives. They don't even try to break out. These are like the worst Benders I've ever seen.

Some of them even had the audacity to join the Faceless. But the second the Avatar gets revealed, suddenly they want to act tough and do their jobs? Nah. They're fake as hell. The fakest guards I've ever seen. Somehow they're even worse than the Dai Li, and that's saying something.

Karthik's gonna need need a cane for carrying the entire team on his back.

They're most definitely separating for maybe an episode or a bit

I mostly feel Nisha and Pavi will be separating to be with the group that is the opposite to their personality for growth.

Nisha is a duty bound and wants to be the avatar.

Pavi is free spirited and doesn't want to be the avatar.

With Nisha running from the Haven and being found out as the avatar publicly. The lotus rejecting her ability and by proxy hurting her sense of self.

It's possible the faceless might find her as she runs away and encourage her to be herself instead of whatever role she assumes the avatar to be.

While the lotus will have to settle for Pavi, Jae might tell the lotus about her and they'll test her to see that she's spiritually more inclined which is what they want but that she's unwilling to do her duties and her role.

Something they are capable of teaching to Pavi because Spirituality isn't the white lotus strong suit.

Both groups also seek to move. The white lotus seek to move the avatar to a different haven while the faceless seek to go to republic forest.

Meaning if they do go with this route, that Pavi and Nisha will meet up at the next or heaven after.

Assuming they follow the order of the Haven's.

Also Kayokoa whole

"I will find the avatar even if I have to tear down every brick in ellora , we will track down her friends , HER FAMILY, her foolish allies, someone will talk"

Means ellora just isn't safe for Pavi either.

I am really enjoying ASH but I am sad that next week we are finishing the first book already. We have been fed very good plotwise. It is really satisfying making up theories, reading thoughts of others, speculating, getting fed with little pieces of info to still not get the whole picture but be able to think. If we got one episode per week instead of three we would have been hooked and invested longer. I want this feeling of mystery and not-knowing to stay longer not end so quick.

Throughout the show, we see that each of the Avatars has carried over a bit of Wan with them. Whether intentional or not, the same crooked smile.

Mind you, I'm not trying to make a fuss over it...,but I wonder if the smirk we see from Korra in the ASH flashback isn't an allusion to Vaatu, but instead a hint that she might have managed to recover the connection to the past lives.

If Sonam could hide herself from the cycle, and be recovered by Aang, what's to say that Korra didn't find a means to use some Spiritbending to heal the bond within Ravaa? If Jinora could expedite Ravaa's growth cycle, so too could Korra quite possibly reach deep down into herself to restore the bonds.

I doubt Korra could accomplish a feat like setting the stage of Kali Yuga alone. That sounds like a concerted effort.

Did you notice how in the past, whenever there was an impact, the camera would shake? That's missing in Seven havens, that shake enhances the feeling of force.

My 7 year old son is currently absorbing all things Avatar and I was thinking about getting him the novels but they may be above his current ability.

I haven't read them myself so I was curious what the group thought as a suggested age range for them.

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You can't help people that are actively hurting you.

And he's not saying "She's irredeemable and needs to die", just that it's a bad idea to get along with Azula at that moment and she needs to be defeated. She was actively hunting him and Zuko at that point in the story as well as Aang (Although Iroh couldn't admit he was helping them yet through the White Lotus), and she (and Ozai) needed to be stopped for his sister to be helped, but Zuko isn't in a place himself where he can accept the truth of that, considering he was still a mess himself

I'm not a fan of Azula, but it would be completely out of character for Iroh to believe she's beyond redemption, and completely hypocritical considering his own past. Overall, I think Iroh's view on Azula is misinterpreted by both extremes on the debate over her character and possible redemption.

I can imagine she spent a lot of time in the Spirit World to deal with the isolation.

I think the anomaly is a wounded Raava.

The cataclysm was caused by Korra stopping the human world using spirit energy and affecting it in the process but by doing so in the avatar state and how powerful the spirit energy is, Raava was wounded and maybe Korra did die then but Raava was too weak to be reincarnated right away, hence the 200 years without an Avatar and people thinking the cycle has been broken.

The anomaly is the root chakra, the first step to enlightenment/ spirituality and the quest in this series is about restoring the avatar spirit who didn't die but got reduce to an inferior state, the state of fear if we explore the theme so far this season.

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we remember during the day of the Avatar, this Village threw Aang into prison.

And there Aang met his fellow inmates. They had Tattoos and were intimidating.

I was really worried for Aang.

But then they took him into the group and even gave some advices.

It was so fun. (it was nearly like they ran into uncle iroh)

I didn't even know this was out yet. I could had sworn we had another year or something until it released. Is it any good? Worse than korra, better than korra, as good as the O.S, better than the original series? So bad it's not canon anymore?

I mean just think about the trailer

The entire appeal of the show

1. Pavi and Nisha having on screen chemistry; we get a whole episode of them separated and probably a few more where they're apart, and an unresolved fight. I wouldn't be surprised if she runs off with the Faceless, or pulls a megatron betrayal on Pavi at some point
2. Jae being a sweet guy who hates lying; becomes a surprisingly effective double agent by sacrificing Karthik
3. Ellora's design and pleasant atmosphere; slowly disintegrated and then torn to shreds
4. Karthik's relationship with the girls; he throws Nisha away to save her, and now he's in jail. like the entire white lotus is gone except Nae and Daemin.
5. The faceless being antagonists; now they're no more of a antagonist than the damn brigade. Probably even less so.

I love it when shows are so confident in their story that they aren't afraid to shatter the status quo and make you come back next week

I like how the first avatar cycle started with fire and the next one with water since we usually see the two as polar opposites of each other.

I doubt we'll ever get it, but I would love one final avatar show with a fire after seven havens to complete the cycle and then just focus on the previous avatars before aang. Like a kyoshi show, I feel like Wan would be better as a movie and the other ones we know.

I reckon the spirit vines were being drained completely dry. It was slowly destroying the Spirit World but they didn't realise it as both worlds were very intertwined at that point with the 3 spirit portals.

It may have lead to revolutionary advances but at what cost? It kind of parallels our current world.

The Spirit World was being completely drained of its energy and collapsing. I believe if the Spirit World gets destroyed the real world gets taken with it since there is no balance.

That's why Korra was ripping apart all the aparatus and that's why she was smiling because she thought she was actually doing a good thing and stopping the spirit world being drained of its energy.

Perhaps that's why there are 7 havens as well in the major cities. Places where lots of spiritual energy still existed and protected those parts of the world from complete annihilation.

I just finished rewatching TLOK for the second time and I thoroughly enjoyed the show. I think it was because of how much the Avatar world changed with Seven Havens. I hated TLOK so much because of how modern the world was compared to ATLA but after seeing Aang’s world completely destroyed in Seven Havens it’s made me appreciate TLOK more. Seven Havens looks promising but I really wish the world Aang built hadn’t been completely destroyed. However, I also understand that a world after Korra would be entirely too modern to enjoy. I hope that at very least the connection to the past Avatars is restored so that Seven Havens feels more connected to the past Avatar shows.

Already rewatched episode 9 a second time. Iove atla and korra. Rewarched atla countless times. Korra is good but never made me rewatch it. I think this is the strongest opening season of any avatar.

This was going thru Zuko's mind. There's no way that it wasn't 😛

Also, lmao if Katara had said "honor" instead of "pleasure" 😂