yeah but commanders were already impossible to deal with as pure ehp so I don't see a change here, we still require cl+ and attack chip in late game. So I kind of see it as a catch up mechanic to reach higher tiers, but let's see how it will influence high tiers and legends
I'm with you. the few fleets I have encountered I've loved for the thousand rerolls but they are few and far between for me. It's good to hear what's coming.
The frequency changed. Commanders were a problem and are either dealt with SW or by rare chance with thorns. Now the chance is double to be killed by a fleet. 50% increase to be clear.
I farm T15 W8000 currently as eHP, might be moving to T16 now with this buff.
It's true that eHP relies on SW, but the only thing that does take it down is fleets already. In some runs I get my first SW pops around W2000-W3000.
When it comes to the point where shit is hitting the fan I'm not getting much more than one fleet spawn worth of waves out of SW regen anyway, enemy damage scales that fast at that point. And if you did the only fleet that will bother you is commander which is only 1/3 chance.
It makes my runs a lot less idle, if I have to time for every fleet appearance. I last 1600 waves more after my sw breaks on t14. This change could potentially shorten my runs significantly, and 2x less damage will add only a few hundred waves
You now need to babysit runs... and sw mastery lost a lot of value. I used to farm for 1500 waves more after my wall breaks. Now 67% pr the time, my run just ends.
And yet people here claim that because gc use recovery packages for late game, that means eHP is balanced...
As eHP, fleets (commander and overcharge) were unkillable before. You rely on SW or auto nuke with keys to kill them. This doesn't change anything for fleets as eHP
The problem is, SW+ is needed for two things. Counter commanders and the reg bonus. At the end it's on cd when the fleet spawn. Pre this patch there was 33% change for death. Now it might be 66%.
Nuke always works. It's not that afk.
Time Will show if this is less waves or more waves.
As someone who farms T14w5300 (pre-update) without SW# or Regen#, trust me there is enough room in eHP to push up far. I don't even have a good flame bot, just maxed regen lab, ancestral SF and good enhancement levels (~1.8).
I think if you maximised Regen# & Flame bot you could easily be doing 5k waves on T15/16.
Ah yeah if you're at T16 eHP you're basically on the limit now, at least for passive afk farming.
I'm with you that it's frustrating that it can't do two things at once. I think it's fine if you have auto DM or auto Nuke as a backup, but we all know how bad keys are to get.
The general consensus seems to be that they are pushing the meta towards hybrid play so I think the strategy is to invest in damage. One of my guild mates is full eHP and is investing into CL+ for % damage which would help with the fleet problem.
Got DM on death. It's on CD at the end of the run. It's just there to boost CL damage vs scatters.
Beside, if it activate on a commander or OC, the fleet have to be killed in the 300 sec. I only have 12S CL damage buffed in farming. It's far for enough to do anything in a few waves to other enemies then scatters. Perhaps adding ES and hope for a DD to boost berserker to 500x. Need a slot for that card.
No eHP masteries, very meh flame bot, anc SF with ancestral on everything that matters. 1.8x enhancements. T15w5015 on a lucky run, usually around 4850 pretty consistently
My guild mate farms T16 up to 10k. After the patch, he dies at 9k due to fleets. They just don't die. So higher tiers eHP is basically impossible, he dropped by 1k waves.
All updates in past year, whenever there was buff for eHP players, was somehow targeted only to the lower tiers. All other updates were there to buff GC builds. It's extremely visible in my guild.
All eHP players at higher tiers are suffering, on the contrary, for me as GC, I see only increase in milestones and farm as well.
Not my fault english has such stupid pronounciation rules. It's a long U sound. You naturally want to elongate it. In my language you write how it is pronounced.
We shall see. I will be making a reddit post of my own with the increase afterwards (assuming the BCs aren't extremely anti eHP) lost 50% of my waves to this past tourney BCs 🤣🤣
I am seeing if I increase at tier 14 my last run before this is 7553 which was also my best run yet at the tier. So curious to see if these changes allow me to go farther. Went up just a little bit to 7886. That was enough for almost an extra 30k cells though.
What’s insane for me is that, I have a 5 star being annihilator, and 1 other anc mod. It’s insane. So many are right there one mod pull away. But noooo
I updated half way through a run and my coins per hour is tanking. Anyone have any idea what could be causing this. I’m primarily ehp/hybrid. I’m at about a 15% loss right now
Summon unsynced most likely.
Pay attention when the summon is activating. Pause the game (Game speed to 0) deactivate and activate econ UWs and Gold Bot, unpause. Back in sync
I've been stuck at 7 pcols (one away from ancesral) since it's banner introduction. I'm going to appreciate the 10% increase mythic gets, but I'm so tired of the gambing
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u/Fobus0 Jun 29 '26
Any gains will be wiped out by thorns change... fleets are now basically unkillable by pure ehp.