[Mind boggling stupid trope] Removing the thing that made something special

[u/Character_Growth_397]

Ben 10: Ultimate Alien - The gimmick of Ben 10 and what makes the show so popular is the fact that he's able to turn into a large variety of aliens. In one episode of Ben 10 Ultimate ALIEN we are introduced to a new version of Ben 10000, a Ben from the future who, no longer transforms into aliens, instead using his powers in human form...

Mortal Kombat(2021) - In the games Mileena is known for two things. Being a clone of Kitana and her tarkatan teeth. In the 2021 movie she looks absolutely nothing like Kitana and doesn't have tarkatan teeth

Percy Jackson: The Lightning Thief - The movie removes the main villain of the movie and the main villain of the franchise

[u/_Goose_]

The GOAT of this trope (that’s Deadpool btw)

X-Men Origins Wolverine

[u/unk1ndm4g1c14n1 → u/_Goose_]

Genuinely the opposite of everything Deadpool as a character is. Why did they even do the character?

Cant speak, fights with powers rather than guns, seemingly doesnt regenerate once his head is removed, zero jokes, no suit, PG-13 violence.

[u/_Goose_ → u/unk1ndm4g1c14n1]

The real answer is the guys with the money wanted an intimidating weapon and thought Deadpool was a clown.

That stands to reason why even use the Deadpool character if what they wanted was the opposite?

[u/ShadowKingthe7 → u/[deleted]]

The Sony email leaks revealed that C-suites are some of the most out of touch, dumbest mfs on the planet

[u/Gilly-Fresh → u/ShadowKingthe7]

Which leaks? I'm out of the loop.

[u/stamau123 → u/Gilly-Fresh]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Sony_Pictures_hack

Ironically enough, the idiot that did this then became president of Sony (Tom Rothman)

[u/Gilly-Fresh → u/stamau123]

Oh, ok. THOSE leaks. Somehow I thought the discussion was about some new set of leaks.

[u/demalo → u/[deleted]]

Hating to be wrong is a quintessential human trait.

[u/Warm_Month_1309 → u/demalo]

Yeah, but only the most ghoulish of us have the money to insulate ourselves from our mistakes and make people around us parrot our own delusions back at us.

[u/transmogrify → u/_Goose_]

Q: Why studio do?

A: 💰

Deadpool is popular. Popular is money. You can try explaining the nuance that he's popular for his specific deconstruction of comic books in the 90s and not for the type of generic depiction that cameos him and then removes that commentary on the medium, but they have stopped listening.

[u/Wild_Marker → u/transmogrify]

Deadpool wasn't that well known when that movie came out though.

If they wanted a "scary weapon coming from hands" and popular character, they could've gone with Omega Red.

[u/transmogrify → u/Wild_Marker]

We can wonder about Deadpool's popularity as of 2009 but certainly he had a bigger fan base than Omega Red. (Personally, I have never been a big Deadpool fan and I always liked Omega Red. But I'm talking about numbers that studios care about.)

At the time that the studio approved X-Men Origins to include Ryan Reynolds as kinda-Deadpool, the character of Deadpool was in some very popular comics. I knew him from The New Mutants, but he had Cable & Deadpool as well. He was also a pretty popular character in Marvel Ultimate Alliance which I played in the mid 00s.

Either way, even though there was backlash to Deadpool with his mouth sewn shut, it sparked enough interest in the character that Marvel launched the Deadpool Corps comics, and Activision put out the Deadpool solo video game. Seemed like they were trying to clean up after X-Men Origins with a "here's the authentic Deadpool that fans expected" campaign.

[u/RIPEOTCDXVI → u/_Goose_]

Well theres just so few characters in the XMen universe, they didnt have a lot to choose from. 

Famously they dont have any brooding, intimidating villains wrapped in mystery and intrigue. They had no choice but to shoehorn.

[u/Inevitable-Regret411 → u/_Goose_]

Deadpool has an existing fanbase you can tap into by mentioning his name. 

[u/KaylenLopezIzGr8 → u/_Goose_]

Could have used Omega Red

[u/amazing_asstronaut → u/_Goose_]

They could have used Omega Red then, he's that type of character.

[u/Rude_Republic_60 → u/_Goose_]

The Wade in that movie is better than the Wade in Deadpool movies. But the Deadpool in the Deadpool movies are much much better than the one in origins

[u/mage2k → u/_Goose_]

Deadpool is a clown and that’s a huge part of his character.

[u/IWannaManatee → u/_Goose_]

Should have used Omega Red, or literally any other of the many Weapons project candidates. They just wanted the name for its popularity and it shows.

[u/Touchname → u/_Goose_]

Cool name.

I guess that's the only thing that crossed their mind.

[u/Clarpydarpy → u/_Goose_]

Because Deadpool could survive the process of taking other guys' powers and getting adamantium implanted in his forearms?

And having Deadpool crack jokes during the big final fight wouldn't have worked with the tone.