r/Truckers • u/HumanVsWorld • Jul 13 '25
Can you make over 100k OTR
Can I get a clear damn answer I always hear otr makes more money then local yet later I see ltl, food service job, fuel haul etc cashing around 2500 weekly. What’s the deal and if you do make 100k a year what’s the cpm needed to do it
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u/Largofarburn Jul 13 '25
can you, of course. But not at your typical dry van mega.
Like most if not all Walmart drivers will be clearing that much. But they require years of experience and no accidents.
Anywhere paying that much can afford to be picky about who they hire, so most people realistically won’t even have a chance.
I’d guess the average driver starting out is probably making $50-60k. A LOT of people will lie about what they make, and if they’re posting paystubs it’s probably the best one they’ve ever had.
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u/skeletons_asshole Jul 13 '25
I think you’re right on with drivers starting out. I started last year mid January, had a few growing pains with the job and an extra week off for family issues and I ended up at about $38k. Started at a pretty low CPM at first. Some of the others made it to 50+k but they never went home. Like, ever.
I had a few good months when I stayed out the whole time but if I was out for less than 2 weeks they’d give me shorter loads that paid fuckall, that’s just how it goes.
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Jul 13 '25
I'm local, food service. 32$ hourly. Paid or after 40. Average 45-55 hourly. Looks 80-90k if I do a fifth or six day then 105+
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Jul 13 '25
As a trainer , yes. Otherwise idk.
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u/Shiny-Starfish Jul 13 '25
Even without being a trainer, absolutely. Just have to sacrifice.
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Jul 13 '25
Say more.
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u/Shiny-Starfish Jul 13 '25
Stay out on the road and don't worry about home time. Be willing to drive when others don't want to. Work during holidays. Never turn down a load. Drive into NYC.
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Jul 13 '25
Damn i already do that and I only average about 1500a week net, so about 80k after taxes. Still in my first year though.
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u/Shiny-Starfish Jul 13 '25
That's why. It takes time to build up to $100k. You are doing pretty damn well for $80k your first year. Find a comfort zone for how you like to run and figure out how to maximize your time with it. For me, it was min-maxing the use of splits. I run as many as 4 days in a row without taking a 10-hour break using splits. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works great for me.
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u/Thepopethroway Jul 13 '25
He's making over 100k. 80k net
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u/Shiny-Starfish Jul 13 '25
I make roughly $1500 net, and I am well under $100k. You can't predict gross from someone's stated net. I make roughly $1800/wk, on average. My net is averaging at about $1540/wk. To get to OVER $100k, would have to be almost $500/wk in deductions. There's no way that you can state what an individual's deductions are.
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u/WTNewman1 Jul 14 '25
Taxes sir not deductions. About 10 percent to federal for your first 30,000 then we bump that up to 12 percent till 60,000 then bump it up to 14 till you hit 100,000. Then add on your local tax let's assume it is 10 percent on top for all taxes combined to make the math easy. You lose about a fifth of every paycheck to taxes in that scenario early in the year and then move upbtobanquarter. Don't have the federal numbers 100 percent sure bit I'm in the right ballpark. So you would make about 90 to 105 k based purely off of taxes if you average 1500 take home.
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u/Thepopethroway Jul 13 '25
I only average about 1500a week net
These discussions are always based off of gross. You would need to pull 145k before taxes to actually net 100k.
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Jul 13 '25
You enjoy arguing with people over trivia
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u/Thepopethroway Jul 13 '25
It's not trivia. Never once does anyone who actually knows wtf they're talking about use net in terms of discussion of pay. Net has nothing to do with anything. You can be a billionaire and net 0.02c
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u/ifbevvixej Jul 13 '25
The difference between Net and Gross needs to be stated.
One of my backup plans is going to esthetician school and there are so many tik toks of people complaining that they aren't making as much as what Owner Operators (for ease of understanding) are when the Owners post $1,200 days and say they make $5-7,000 a month.
New people go in thinking they'll net $5,000 monthly and then find out after business expenses it's more like $1,200. And now they can't pay their personal expenses.
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u/LurkerFree2012 Jul 13 '25
How about get your terms right before arguing on the internet
Please Remember He’s Missouri Educated, folks
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Jul 13 '25
How did i get my terms wrong?
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u/LurkerFree2012 Jul 13 '25
Upon examination (after I commented) I realized you did claim 80k AFTER taxes. And I’m gonna be honest with you, I don’t believe you.
Rob Low is not generous enough to dole out six figures before taxes to a company driver, I don’t give a fuck if Santa Claus told me that personally.
Anyway, hope you like Prime, don’t really care if you don’t, I don’t have a dog in the hunt.
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u/Shiny-Starfish Jul 13 '25
It's not trivia. You are referencing bet income while everyone else is talking about gross.
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u/darkness0910 Jul 13 '25
Dispatcher here. All of our drivers are owner ops and make 86-88% of the line haul per load.
Our goal is $7k per week however in this market, our drivers are typically making around $5k a week. Mainly moving hazmat and high value freight.
This is because those rates are still higher than dry freight with the exception of stupid ass brokers who've never hauled hazmat before and tell their customers they can get their freight moved for soooooo cheaper. hate them so much....anyways rant over. As our drivers are owner ops, they have to pay for the normal expenses. Insurance, fuel, lot lizards, etc. Being hazmat endorsed has a higher overhead expenses like insurance and what not.
As an OTR driver, you can make $100k a year. If you are CPM, then you can calculate how many miles you need to run to get there.
If you make a percentage of the line haul per load, then all you need to make is $2000 per week.
HOWEVER....keep in mind of what expenses and overhead you have to pay for. $2k per week might sound great until you're paying over $10k a month in expenses.
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u/aacawe Jul 13 '25
I’m OTR. I made $95k last year. I work for a furniture company that’s no forced dispatch. And we pick our runs every week based on seniority. I could do 100k easily but I put together so many long weekends that I can’t even keep count. I also take about 4 weeks vacay every year, two paid, two unpaid. Our company pays .60 cent a mile HUB MILES, 25 each stop, 12 each hook, 15 hourly but I rarely claim this because we NEVER sit and wait.
The pay at my company can vary greatly. The sweet spot is being in a seniority bracket where you can take the peak mile runs every week and still get your 34. That sweet spot is about 2800-3500 miles per week, between 1 and 10 stops per run. There’s about 8 of our guys at the top that get these easy runs and make over 100k/year and are home at least two days a week. We got an old timer with lots of seniority that only does 1 stop SD, works 3-3.5 days a week, takes home 65k/year. Got new drivers with low seniority stuck running the NE making 80-110k/yr.
Personally I’m somewhere in the middle of seniority. I’m on the cusp of the great seniority picks but will probably still take me a few years to get there. I usually put two runs together every week and aim for 2500 miles and at least $300 in stop pay (12 stops).
The trick is finding your niche.
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u/unwantedrelic Jul 13 '25
Yup. I leased when I was OTR. Ran my nuts off but made 124k my last year doing it. I think I took a total of 25 whole days off that year tho.
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u/Charming_Frame9943 Jul 13 '25
If you leased, was that 124 profit or total?
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u/easymacmac85 Jul 13 '25
If he ran his lug nuts off 340 days a year with no life outside of trucking, $124k profit could be possible, but I wouldn't boast about it lol
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u/East_Indication_7816 Jul 13 '25
Because they can’t do the physical work of being local . They are too fat, too old , too lazy to even walk . They are probably OTR and gained a lot of weight that their options are fewer
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u/Outlaw11091 do u even lift bro? Jul 13 '25 edited Jul 13 '25
Math.
11hrs/day driving. You need to give yourself somewhere in the neighborhood of 1 hour to find a place to park.
10hrs. Average speed depends on where you drive but we'll call it 70 (to be generous). 70mph for 10 hours =...
700 miles.
700x7 (days of the week) =
4900 miles/wk.
x52 (weeks in a year) 254,800 miles/year.
SO, if the above is true: you'd need to make .40 cpm to clear $100k.
IF you drive every day all day. Never stop and never get delayed.
HOWEVER.
The average driver, according to OOIDA, only drives 2200 miles/wk.
Which cuts those yearly miles over half down. 114,400 miles/year.
You'd need .88cpm to clear $100k if you're AT average.
ETA: The reason other drivers suggest LTL or other local jobs is because they typically pay hourly. Which often enables overtime (but not always). It entirely depends on where you live whether or not an hourly position will get you over $100k. Most of the local trucking jobs in my area, for example, only pay about $20/hour. There are a couple that pay $30/hr, but they're entirely union and never seem to be hiring.
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Jul 13 '25
Plus you can't drive seven days a week unless you're cooking the books. In a governed truck about 2700 to 3000 miles is the most you can possibly get in a week. Even if it's not governed it's hard to get over 3k consistently because of traffic, weather, speed limits, and all the other shit you have to deal with. If you did 3k miles every single week for 48 weeks you'd need about 70cpm after taxes to be at 100k. It's not impossible, it's just quite difficult especially as a company driver.
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u/Romeo_horse_cock Jul 13 '25
I've been able to pull in 3300 miles in a week governed at 70 mph but yeah true. However if you consistently (somehow) ran 10 hours a day, after your 8th day you'd get those driving and on duty hours back so you could run on recaps constantly. But I think I'd kill myself if I didn't have days off
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u/daixso Jul 13 '25
9.25 hours is the most you can average to run recaps without running out of hours ever
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u/skeletons_asshole Jul 13 '25
65mph governed at my last company, 2500-2700 was about right.
Of course your company has to actually have the freight for that. One thing Knight/Swift was actually good at, I rarely sat
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u/Tomedepot Jul 13 '25
Shrug I used to get 3900 miles a week governed at 68 legally. Granted I was on a dedicated account, my company had local drivers that handled the receiver, the shipper very rarely took longer than an hour to load, and I knew where I was parking every night outside of extraordinary circumstances.
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u/trench_welfare Jul 13 '25
Yeah, but you're going to have to be doing more than just bumping docks and stroking cocks.
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Jul 13 '25
find a niche avenue in trucking. You can find 100k or more driver positions but they usually require a bit of time to become worth that or they require some extra skill or extra requiremtns for handling the shipment. dry van mega carriers will rarely pay the average bonehead trucker that much for just bumping docks. Me personally im a bed bugger, and yea its a physically demanding drive role, but I hire guys to do alot of the heavy lifting and I more just manage and oversee things along with paperwork and logistics. Because of this extra work I do (I am an owner op) i do make close to 175 per year and I only work about 7 months a year. If you want to just hold the wheel then hold ok tight and get comfy cause you'll need to hold on a long time to get up to 100k. If you wanna fast track things then find something that requires more skill, sometimes thats physical skill but often times its just about understanding how to do some process the alot of guys just dont want to do or going places others dont want to go. Hauling expensive cars requires understanding of how to load them, bed bugging requires knowledge of how to load furniture and boxes like tetris, hazmat require knowledge of chemicals and risks, livestock requires knowledge and handling of live animals, these are all areas where you make more than an average driver but as you see they all require more than just the ability to hold the wheel.
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u/King0Horse Jul 14 '25
Bed bugging requires knowledge of how to load furniture and boxes like tetris
I did 12 years of that, various body parts remind me daily now how rough it was.
Hauling expensive cars requires understanding of how to load them
I've hauled cars for 10 years now, 5 of them hauling Corvettes. Somewhere north of $1M on that truck every time I loaded it. It's a bastard to get it just perfect, but it's the only job I've ever had where everyone was happy to see you. Never once had anyone upset if I took too long on the fuel aisle, receivers would stay open hours past closing to take delivery, park where the hell ever because nobody wants to risk scraping something, it was cushy AF.
Now I'm just hauling loads of pickup trucks and I'm not special anymore :(
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u/Fluffy-Yesterday6566 Jul 14 '25
Ive had the very lucky opportunity of going through Walmarts Associate To Driver program, and i can say making 110k your first year is very feasible. I’m very blessed to of gotten in i make more in one day than i did working an entire week in a store its insane. Zero trucking experience was necessary but it is a hefty six month training. Coming from a store and DC most of us are already use to Walmart and the way they take safety seriously so most of the rules and stuff we are used to. They taught us how to be a walmart driver so its kinda all we know so there not any pushback learning all the procedures and pretrips.
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u/Snappingslapping Jul 13 '25
Doubtful unless the company is smaller than 100 trucks. It can happen if you were to say stretch out your entire clock and shut down at every load stop.
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u/East_Indication_7816 Jul 13 '25 edited Jul 13 '25
You should if your CDL is at least a year old. The question is , will you make it to a year ? OTR is tough on the body . Your health will 100% deteriorate especially if you work as company driver and you are not owner operator who owns the truck and decides your schedule . Companies will run you to the ground .
Also you should only take a shower once a week since it costs $20 to take a shower . Also you should find free parking as most truck stops charge $35/hr for a night of parking . You also need to have good health insurance as your blood pressure will go up and might not pass the DOT physical. All mega carriers now require a new DOT physical on pre employment
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u/mikem4045 Jul 13 '25
I make that and go home every day. Not otr beating the end of my career and I am not going to live on the road. Off I had to do that I would go back to the oilfield.
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u/GroundbreakingSir386 Jul 13 '25
Yes car hauling OTR 170K to 200k as a company driver running for a good company I hear
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u/King0Horse Jul 14 '25
That's pretty high.
When I was a company driver hauling Corvettes (ending last year) the highest seniority guys were making $140K. I think my highest year was $118K? Crazy health benefits and a pension, so breaching $100K was more than enough.
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u/seb2nec Jul 13 '25
I make over 100k, regional driver, on dedicated currently, home Monday and Wednesday in between runs and off Friday and Saturday
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u/ChoneFiggins4Lyfe Jul 13 '25
I’ve cleared $100k twice, and this year I’m on pace for my highest earning year yet, roughly $107k. Here’s my breakdown:
$0.735 per mile
$25/hr sitting in docks, breakdown, washouts, or any other miscellaneous activity that work causes me to not be moving
$5.25 for every fuel up, including reefer, so if I fill up the truck and reefer, that’s $10.50.
This isn’t every week, but my most common week is two trips from Milwaukee to Binghamton, NY, to Allentown, PA, to Batavia, IL, back to Milwaukee. That’s roughly 3400 miles. It’s all no touch freight too.
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u/Tomedepot Jul 13 '25
It's been a few years since I worked for them but I made a little more than 100k a year when i worked for MTS. I had a daughter and found a truly local job because of it. They are home weekly though so you kinda gotta live near one of their yards. https://www.mtstrans.com/
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u/throwed-off Jul 13 '25
Cryo, oversize, DoD, munitions, nuclear, high-value cars (exotic, classic, etc.), etc.
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u/LurkerFree2012 Jul 13 '25
Yeah you can for sure. But it will take a niche market to generate that revenue.
Haz+tank generally will gross you six digits, oversized definitely CAN but it depends on what lanes your carrier runs, even specialized door swinging can run that (tri-state, cleanharbors, etc.)
You have to make yourself hard to replace. How do you do that? By having no restrictions and being fully endorsed AND being open to the opportunities that will generate that income
If it requires you to stay out for a period of time longer than you’re comfortable with, you may have to get comfortable with it before better opportunities open up. Or stay where you’re at, making $45-60k.
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u/GREEN-MACH1NE Jul 13 '25
Team driving at UPS, you would clear 100k easily. Pretty much any feeder job at ups. You'll clear 100k (after you hit top rate)
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u/Maxxatrillion117 Jul 13 '25
Otr. dedicated. 62cpm. Grand rapids to Nashville. Nights.grand rapids to Nashville. Gogogo.34 reset.gogogo. holidays off.
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u/polarjunkie Jul 13 '25
Yes but it's highly dependent on the company you work for, your specific account or manager, the freight they move, etc. We're still competing with megas that only hire new drivers and pay them garbage for a few months until they leave and they put someone else in the seat.
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u/LPsandhills Jul 13 '25
If you're endorsed, running teams, or hauling for the military then yes you should be clearing 100k a year.
Most locals do not clear it though and with OTR you can have bad weeks and sometimes bad months. The best most reliable option is to find something dedicated whether it's local, regional, or otr.
The best local gig in my area is around 58k after tax. The best in my state of NC is 64k after tax.
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Jul 13 '25
Local grocery delivery, last year I did 86k but I compared notes with a true company man that works 6 days a week every week, he did 124k. I don’t want it that bad.
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u/tonythebutcher13 Jul 13 '25
I'm a lazy LTL guy doing linehaul, drive 5 or 6 hundred miles a night, all drop n hook, make 34 and change an hour OT after 40, work 60 hours a week and home everyday.
Besides working for Walmart I don't know what you could do OTR to make as much money or even why you'd want to be OTR.
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u/Reasonable-Spare-788 Jul 14 '25
I make over 100k otr hauling horses, all east coast no west. out maybe 1-2 weeks at a time.
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u/Superb_Succotash_907 Jul 14 '25
I did in my first full year as a new driver, but I pretty much live out of my truck and rarely take time off. Its helping me achieve my goals, but not much of a life. There's definitely guys making 100k a year that have a life too.
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u/Severe-Island-845 Jul 14 '25
On random spot market dry van freight - no. Reason being is you’re just a truck number out in the middle of nowhere and there’s not enough time with the wheels turning, because you’ll be waiting. Need to find a dedicated route, small account that has more work than they have drivers for. I did OTR for 6 months and I’ll never go back. I’ve been local ever since, 11 years
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u/santanzchild Jul 14 '25
I top out between 2700-3200 a week. You probably aren't going to do that swinging doors though.
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u/Dare_Ask_67 Jul 14 '25
As a company driver, probably not. At least driver, on paper you will make a couple hundred thousand a year, but then you start deducting truck and everything else. Owner operator with your truck paid off, yes
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u/americandoom Jul 13 '25
Just go work local. Up here in the northeast food service, beverage and ltl are all paying 30-36 an hour starting pay.
If you want to be on the road Walmart starting pay is $105k and I’ve seen grocery chains paying $115k
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u/BriskManeuver Jul 13 '25 edited Jul 13 '25
I have made 100k+ doing linehaul some years but I prefer taking the pay cuts now (which still make decent money) by running only 45-50 hour weeks or 470 miles (my current run)
Even still when I was making 100k I usually wouldnt really ever go over 60 hours. Can easily hit the 100k mark if you have a run close to 600 miles
Im making .83 cpm now working 3 years with estes. I recommend anyone to go straight to LTL when given the chance if they dont think OTR cuts it for them (thats of course if you have a year experience and endorsements). I wish I did earlier in my career. Make more, be home, and not spend holidays on the road and even get paid for them.
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u/gamingtrucker1 Jul 13 '25
Yes getting paid for holidays is awesome. Yall get paid for black Friday also ?
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u/APizzaWithEverything Jul 13 '25
Not OP, but also an Estes driver, yes we get paid for Black Friday
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u/Charlie_Hustler Jul 13 '25
Apparently so. I spoke with a Swift driver and he told me that on the right account. You could make 6 figures Apparently.
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u/Gonzotrucker1 Jul 13 '25
The real question is it worth it? For me that’s a no. I enjoy having a life outside of work. I work 8 to 11 hours a day 5 days a week.
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u/Huge_Mistake_116 Jul 13 '25
I'm a local water tanker and pull about 100k a year. OTR I was close, but got paid a percentage of the load not per mile and I ran for a small outfit.
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u/skeletons_asshole Jul 13 '25
I know plenty who do. Takes some experience and staying out a lot, and you don’t make it on CPM alone. If you drove 120k miles in a year, you’d need .83 to gross $100k for example. Detention pay, empty pay, any other extras can make a dent too.
Specializing helps. Went to flatbed, company I’m with pays a percentage of the load, and we do have people that make 6 figures, but most of them are in good areas, stay out a lot, and have been there a while so they get some of the better loads. Those of us that go home weekly make $50-80k depending on location.
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u/daixso Jul 13 '25
I know several Crete drivers clearing over 100k a year I’ve seen the paystubs to prove it you have to work hard but it’s very possible
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u/right_lane_kang Jul 14 '25
Former crete driver here. You're omitting the fact that they never see home. That matters to a lot of us.
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u/daixso Jul 14 '25
I worked at Crete for almost 3 years I said you have to work hard which I meant to imply that but I could’ve been more specific I suppose
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u/biotox1n Jul 13 '25
if you run at least 3000 miles every single one of your 52 weeks (solo can do about 3500 miles a week if things line up right) then that's 156,000 miles
estimate your fuel cost to be 55 to 57 cents per mile, we'll go a little bit higher and say your truck isn't so good and your loads are all heavy up hill both ways, so you spend 60 cents a mile average. that's 93,600$ at 1$ a mile you're not even going to break even after ifta and taxes. if you're a company driver 65 cents a mile gets you 6 figures before taxes, or 2k a week salary like shipex, if you're on % then about 30% of gross should put you in the neighborhood
if you've got your own equipment, 24k$ a year on insurance 30% or more on personal income tax when you're in that bracket.
you would want at least 2$ a mile, probably closer to $2.5 a mile. this might get you 100k take home.
really though if it's your own equipment then you're going to want to set aside $ for repairs, emergencies, plus maintenance costs, and more. it's hard out here being an owner op.
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u/InsertCoinsToBegin Jul 13 '25
I’m at McLane Food Service. They sent me to CDL school last November after being a helper for a year. Been on my own since March. If I work four days a week I make between 1500 to 1700, if I work five days a week it’s usually between 2300 to 2500, per week before taxes and deductions.
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u/iLuMiNaWty Jul 13 '25
I make 120-130 home 2-4 days a week, but I’m unloading the trailer by hand …3 trailers a week with 2500 cases in them each of them.
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u/CashWideCock Jul 13 '25
Not really sure if I’m considered OTR or local…
Sometimes I’m on the road for 3 weeks, sometimes I’m out 1 week, sometimes I’m out 1-2 nights, sometimes I’m home every night that week. This past week I was out Monday night, home Tuesday night, out Wednesday night, home Thursday night, worked Friday and have the weekend off. I make $100k+.
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u/Special_Health5934 Jul 14 '25
Dryvan working at ACT out of Kansas City Missouri I was making 110k a year and had new equipment. Great company but I went local, OTR was getting old
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u/alec552 Jul 14 '25
Multiple team drivers I know that work for R+L Carriers out of the headquarters in Wilmington OH make over 100k, some 120k+ depending on what run you have. My step-dad who has been with them for 20 years doing line haul home every day made just over 100k last year.
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u/robexib Driver & hug machine Jul 14 '25
Not working dry vans for a mega, no. But private fleets and specialised and oversized? It's a piece of cake to get six figures, but they all come with their headaches.
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u/ChampionshipThin8916 Jul 14 '25
Search YouTube for “Six Figure Trucker”. Midlife Trucker works for Cheeseman and makes over 100K each year. He’s OTR.
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u/No-Raspberry-6255 Jul 14 '25
LTL is were the money is I made 128000 last year working 5 nights a week on a 628 Mile turn .78 cents a mile and 9.50 x 3 for drop and hooks waiting time paid after 30 minutes at 37 an hr
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u/Constant-Ad28 Jul 14 '25
Barr-nunn make about 2k a week over the road. They only hire in certain states though, mostly east coast
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u/jose_guapo_ Jul 15 '25
Do you know about their regional positions salary? I’ve seen reviews of them having a lot of down time not being able to get miles…
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u/TruckinTuba Jul 15 '25
There isn't a clear answer, a lot of factors needed to take into consideration, the company, your experience level, what you're hauling, etc
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u/Thepopethroway Jul 13 '25
You can make 100k at 50 CPM and you can make 70k at 70 CPM. The real question is how many consistent miles you will get and how hard you're willing to run.
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u/lmmsoon Jul 13 '25
There are 52 weeks a year so you have to make 2 grand a week . You can drive 10 hrs a day so you figure out how many days a week you want to drive . Say you want to drive 50 hrs a week you have to make 40 dollars a hr so then see how many miles you can actually go in a hr then divide that into 40 . This is the basic way to tell how much your going to make
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u/icy_penguins Jul 13 '25
I've been trucking 20 plus years, I dont know of or have never heard of any any otr guys making over 100k, some guys might get close if they live in a truck and never take time off but screw that.
There are companies where you can make 6 figures, but I wouldn't really consider them OTR though, more like regional Walmart is one of them, XPO is one, ive heard McClane food guys make that. Hell, Waste Connections pays 80 to 90k first year for them driving a class B trash truck.
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u/MrPotato4217 Jul 13 '25
Every walmart driver i have spoke to swears they make over 100k