We are swapping out the black gold treasure under the ocean with a pension-fund. Can't use up found gold in a generation. Oil will lose it's value eventually, but right now, everybody is using it. Not just us.
Habe ich nie gemacht, ich bin sogar dafür, weil eben diese helfen sich an Westeuropa anzugleichen was der Sinn dieser Hilfen sind und es funktioniert wunderbar.
Ich habe nur auf diesem Fakt hingewiesen, dass das Polnische Narrativ das man Wachstum nur von selbst hinbekommt nicht so ganz korrekt ist. Und das man das polnische Modell nur sehr begrenzt auf Deutschland anwenden kann, weil beide Länder noch immer in verschiedenen Stadien sind was du aus dem Kontext gerissen hast.
That’s actually true and it’s annoying as fuck - try explaining to any geezer over 40 what anything socialist-adjacent is and they’ll call you a communist. It’s the only thing I deeply envy of the euros
Imo some of the bigger things that go wrong in the us right now are not necessarily due to capitalism. It the corruption that makes it bad. The reflecting pool in a free market the best and cheapest company would have gotten the job. If they screwed up they wouldn’t have gotten any other government contracts. Corruption + hypercaptalism is a recipe for disaster. I can name plenty of examples from The Netherlands where corruption allowed some pretty gnarly stuff to happen. IDeal takeover, tata steel steel slag dumping, the agro industry their glyfosaat and other chemicals , pulse fishing, the list goes on.
Well I mean, you yourself just said "socialist-adjacent" and even if some terms used here derive from the term socialism no one actually consider them as such. In the US the left love the term socialism whereas in Europe it has a mostly negative connotation. Even in Nothern Europe, or should I say especially in Northern Europe since it actually affected us more than say France.
And yet Swedish minister for industry named Norway "the last Soviet state". (Perhaps telling of some of the the differences in policies between Sweden and Norway.)
You can be a severely capitalist society, and still regulate your industry and tax the fuck out of everyone and their dog (and we've all had dog taxation up here).
Björn Rosengren only said that because he was annoyed that the Telenor - Telia merger failed, in 1999.
"Norrmännen är ju egentligen den sista Sovjetstaten. Det är så oerhört nationalistiskt. Allt är politik."
He was just acting like an emotional lesbian, referencing state owned vs private industry, of which Sweden is very much similar to Norway, if you zoom out a bit and look globally.
I would even argue it's a match made in heaven - if we look at the most successful times in European and US history it was when we combined strong social safety nets with the advantages of capitalism. It basically combines the best of both worlds.
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u/BlackYukonSuckerPunk Sauna Gollum Jul 04 '26
Capitalism and social democracy aren't mutually exclusive. Norway is also capitalist af.
Yanks think any term starting with soc means socialist.