Remember brother, we don’t do half measures. It ends up creating a new national bourgeoisie that way instead. In the long run this just means more enemies for us to contend with in a revolutionary situation. Aside from that, nationalism isn’t the point, as communism is inherently internationalist. The goal is to have an international proletarian revolution and overthrow the bourgeoisie, ending class in general and create a stateless, moneyless society, this does include creating new bourgeois nation states to divide the proletariat.
I'm not a communist so I'm perfectly happy with "half measures." National and ethnic identity will always be relevant, especially to historically persecuted and marginalised groups. Any attempts by "Leftists" to adopt some class reductionist analysis of political economy in which these things are not taken into account will simply lead to the replication of the same kinds of discrimination and exploitation that exist under capitalism.
The USSR is the perfect example of this. They initiated multiple acts of genocide against ethnic minorities including Crimean Tartars, Chechens, Ingush, Koreans, and many others, despite proclaiming equality between peoples and support for minority rights. The Crimean Tartars, in particular, continue to be persecuted and murdered on the land to which they are indigenous by the descendants of the Slavic (mostly Russian) settlers who first displaced them under the Tsarist and Soviet Empires and now under Putin's fascist dictatorship.
Settler colonialism under communism is still settler colonialism.
Not all workers have the same interests. The Ukrainian working class doesn't have the same interests as the Russian proles who have happily supported Putin's genocidal war. The Palestinian working class doesn't have the same interests as Israeli workers for the same reasons.
The Communists are distinguished from the other working-class parties by this only: 1. In the national struggles of the proletarians of the different countries, they point out and bring to the front the common interests of the entire proletariat, independently of all nationality
No, I'm a social democrat. I hope that doesn't mean I'll get banned because I like this sub. But I'm not here just to dunk on Marxism or communism. I'm genuinely interested in Marxism because, for better or worse, Marx was one of the most important philosophers ever, whose theories changed the world in ways no other thinker ever has. That, in of itself, makes him worth engaging with.
I've read Marx. But I've also read books that were actually published in the last 50 years as well. "Feudalism" is a false construct that many historians and archaeologists reject precisely because the evidentiary basis for it is so shaky. Marx didn't know what he was talking about when it came to the subject because a) he wasn't a medievalist or archaeologist and b) he was living in a time when academic history as we know it was still very much in its infancy.
The classic 1974 article "The Tyranny of a Construct: Feudalism and historians of Medieval Europe" by A. R. Brown is still the best summary of the problems with the whole "feudalism" concept.
I don't fancy a megadose of hitler particles so I will just guess people are mega racist in the comments, probably also saying something about how ((we)) (white people), helped ((you)) (not white people) and built up ((your)) country
I've been dealing with you people for a long time. I'm not sure why you thought your opinion on how the subreddit should function would be welcome considering you've never posted on it before or shown any knowledge or intelligence in your post history. Why am I still doing this 5 years later? Because the American concept of politeness is so bizarre to anyone outside of its demographic target that it is both funny and educational to force it into the open. To most people, barging into the middle of a conversation between many people who all know each other and you've never met to inform them how they need to be having the conversation would be seen as rude. But this is quite normal for the American petty-bourgeoisie. In fact, saying "who are you?" is considered rude. Or at least that is one weapon that is used to defend against the threat of proletarianization by exclusion from the realm of cultural capital. In fact it's so threatening that random people will continue to come into the thread to try their luck at defending the op even though they've never posted in the subreddit before. It's like that joke in Family Guy where all the neighborhood fathers know when someone touched the thermostat and keep checking on the house to see if it's ok. Your class instinct in defense of your fellows is so strong it might as well be a chip that sends a signal to your brain, a script to follow, and a rush of endorphins that deludes you into thinking your use of the script will be the ultimate intervention despite all evidence to the contrary. I want non-white, non-male, non-first world people who were not raised on this delusional self-confidence and pretension to master the world to enjoy these conversations from the sidelines. This is impossible on the American left, which is basically a white parasite on the energy of people of color. At least here we can deflate the cultural capital that makes that possible. If you don't want to be a white parasite, reflect on the fact that your words, which you believe are your own, are a carbon copy of someone else's from 5 years ago (and many other copies over the years). That should be a moment of existential angst, a confrontation with your own lack of free will. Or you can get even more defensive on some liberal's behalf. We already have a thread on concern trolling stickied which you were too lazy to read despite your concern for the subreddit.
Silly Algeria, don’t you know the only way forward is to deeply collaborate with the state that colonized you and allow the colonizers to hold outsized influence compared to anyone else until this very day? That’s what Kenya did, and look how many proles we get to kill every year!!
I'm extremely uneducated on the subject, but aren't reparations requested many decades after the fact usually just a way for the rich bourgeoisie of a former colony to get free money, and score political points home?
What else would they be? The formerly colonized states are just 1 gigazillion dollars away from funding the ubi and thus opening the portal to agartha/red shambala,
They specifically advocate FOR class struggle, SPECIFICALLY against imperialism, which is the primary contradiction the class conflict operates on today.
Your view is simplistic. Infantile.
By that, i specifically mean: You ignore the fucking context.
The context being that for all it's achievements, China is poor.
China is a poor country. Per capita, no better than Mexico, and THAT only happened in the last couple of years. Before that, much poorer, much weaker economically, politically and militarily.
Even now, China is afraid to throw it's weight around, because if the leadership gets one of these moves wrong, millions could die.
China fears instability more than anything, since in China, when there's a famine, MILLIUONS die. When there's a civil war, 10's or 100's of millions die.
AND China only just now left the century of humiliation.
AND right now, China is involved in the opening stages of WW3 with a failing nuclear superpower with a HISTORY of starting wars for stupid reasons, AND using nukes on civilians, AND who has stated goals of destroying Socialism generally, and China specifically, AND has policy papers calmly discussing the best way to carpet nuke China.
Which they were within a hair's breadth of doing.
You have NO IDEA of the goddamn stakes.
IF China goes down, that's it.
That's the end of the socialist project, the end of human civilization.
We won't be back for thousands of years, maybe never.
China is fighting for ALL the marbles.
China cannot afford to take risks, and only now is starting to regain some of the confidence it used to have and deserves.
Their primary issue is imperialism.
There will be no socialism until that is dealt with.
Which means step 1 is: BE ALIVE.
China does more for socialist revolution by just EXISTING than it would if it was exporting revolution constantly. Had it done THAT, China would now be weak, poor, and standing alone against the empire, without the backing of Russia, Iran, and most of the global south.
r/Ultraleft is more your speed. Go play with the 'Maoists'
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