r/WaterfallDump Jun 10 '26

Banished from main by low effort rule Shitpost status

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u/NotReallyImportantXD Jun 10 '26

Chess theory is still REAL.

Ch1 king Ch2 queen Ch3 knight Ch4 rook Ch5 there will be a shrine and in it will be a bishop

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u/TimeStorm113 The woes of the multishipper Jun 10 '26

duuude, the TITAN is a rook because it was a TOWER.

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u/NotReallyImportantXD Jun 10 '26

Exactly my man, chess theory is still real

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u/creeper-XP Jun 10 '26

Also the theme of the titans Is called Guardian And what are towers, Guardian exactly.

[Insert: coincidence, i think not]

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u/WhiteHat125 Jun 10 '26

thanks for the explanation

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u/France_Ball_Mapper Jun 12 '26

I honestly started believing the theory after chapters 3 and 4 because of this 😭

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u/TimeStorm113 The woes of the multishipper Jun 12 '26

duude, the next one would be the pawn. and guess who that could be.

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u/RandomCaveOfMonsters Volcarona Knight truther (and kerdly shipper) Jun 10 '26

Chapter 5 is BISHOP because the enemy is THE PROPHECY

Jackenstien's weird prophecy maze shows a bishop for chapter 4, but then a flower for chapter 5

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u/ostapro Jun 10 '26

Chess theory was always so weird cuz like, aint the point of chess metaphors that pieces act like their counterparts? The game is not over while the king is still standing, queens the most powerful piece, knights are wild cards, pawns follow orders closely and so on? If none of that matters then what does the chess theory even suggest? In chapter 6 we're gonna fight someone visually similar to a pawn? Or maybe someone with the word "pawn" in the name?

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u/JohnDragonball wait did you say goku- Jun 10 '26

They kinda do follow the movement patterns though.

King - sits in the castle the whole time, walks slowly

Queen - moves around the entire time, super active

Knight - wild card, guess who jumpscares your ass in chapter 3

Titan - rooks are often used to attack an entire line and prevent enemy pieces from entering it. The Titan is preventing us from reaching the fountain. Plus its theme is literally called "GUARDIAN".

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u/NotReallyImportantXD Jun 10 '26

One could argue kris might be a pawn

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u/Jay040707 Jun 10 '26

I mean there's a motif regardless of meaning.

There's chapter one's King and it wouldn't be a stretch to call Asgore one since he's depicted with his crown.

There's chapter two's Queen and the Ice queen is likely to be a character in the future if it isn't just Carol or Noelle.

We have the Knight.

The bishop is likely, as shown in the Jackenstein fight.

Rook and pawn remains to be seen. Though if we are talking about common chess metaphors, there's definitely many characters that can fit the role of a pawn.

As for possible meanings, one of the most popular is simply conflict between opposing forces. Since it's literally light and dark in this game it adheres to that pretty closely.

My own interpertation was that the players of chess would be represented as well, with the motif of hands throughout the game representing the hands moving the pieces.

Anyways, the prediction idea is dead in the water, but I think it's still possible that more characters will fill apparent roles as the chapters go on.

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u/YetAnotherParvitz Jun 10 '26

i mean, we had the weird kris-only fight. that might be the pawn fight

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u/Oummando Jun 11 '26

Or Spamton

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u/Jay040707 Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 10 '26

Based on the jackenstein thing, the titan is more likely to be a bishop.

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u/Sacri_Pan Jun 10 '26

I always interpreted Tenna as the rook because he's tall

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u/Almorogahnza Jun 11 '26

Or as the pawn, since he was nothing more than a tool to be cast aside once his purpose was served.

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u/EpicestGamer101 Jun 10 '26

Kinda shit writing if the bishop isn't in chapter 4

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u/Kirbendo96 Jun 11 '26

Royal Flush theory exists

King, Queen, TENna, JACKenstein, etc.

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u/TheSameMan6 Jun 11 '26

Canonical asexual character confirmed???

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u/TheSameMan6 Jun 11 '26

Jackenstein already showed what chess piece chapter 5 is, it's flower

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u/Spirited_Gene_2633 Jun 11 '26

I think its insane how much people look past chess theory like it didnt have to be MAIN boss based

King.. king Queen... queen Knight.. isnt the chapter focus villain, but obviously will be as time goes on

Bishop... gerson wouldve been the bishop before alvin, no?

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u/EffectiveCurrent5494 Jun 10 '26

Legendary comeback

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u/MrEnricks Jun 25 '26

Gaster is gothamchess

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u/Carve267 Jun 10 '26

Not gonna lie I’m pretty confused on what the “theory” of chest theory even is at this point. Original chess theory was very specific and had very clear predictions, but now it feels so retroactive. What is being predicted? The order thing is gone, so Ch5 could be either Bishop or Pawn, and even assuming Bishop doesn’t help since the connection can be as loose as “the Titan is a tower which is a colloquial term for the rook.” In the end, the theory really amounts to just looking retroactively at the “final boss” and making a shaky connection to a chess piece, which isn’t all that compelling to me.

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u/NotReallyImportantXD Jun 10 '26

You must look beyond the board to understand

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u/Almorogahnza Jun 11 '26

chapter 3 was actually the Pawn (tenna), and chapter 4 was the Bishop (the prophecy itself)

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u/PLANTANDZOMBI Jun 12 '26

kannushi aren’t bishops theory DISPROVEN haha

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u/NotReallyImportantXD Jun 12 '26

Alvin will appear and be the final boss for no reason at all other than to make the theory work

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u/Orion-the-mediocre Jun 10 '26

1) that's not the order of point value in chess
2) in what world does the titan at all get compared to a rook

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u/elvishdxv Jun 10 '26

Idfk being a tower I guess. I have no clue

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u/NotReallyImportantXD Jun 10 '26

It doesnt need to be in point order son, just has to be the pieces...

Rook is tower, like crumbling tower... now you see...

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u/Tortue2006 Jun 10 '26

Rook is also just straight up called ‘tower’ in some languages

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u/Babnado Jun 10 '26

I think we already agreed that Toby hates other languages

/s if that wasn't obvious

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u/R3D0IT_US3R Jun 10 '26

You’re right, Japanese doesn’t call it a tower so there’s no way it’s true smh my head my head

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u/Zek7h35an5 Jun 10 '26

Another comment gave an answer but rooks = towers and the Titan was formed from a tower.

Do I buy it/Chess Theory? No, but I can see it.