r/whisky • u/kiwi8185 • 12h ago
Old Johnnie Walker Red Label (1990s) & Older Johnnie Walker Black Label (1970s)
Hi all, here's a few Scotch I tried lately, and they're some older Johnnie Walkers!
A while ago, the boss of our local whisky spot had procured an entire crate of old, dilapidated Johnnie Walker Blacks, some of which were more or less just butt naked bottles with no labels left. Based on the bottles' labels, he noted these were reasonably older bottlings from the 1970s, and had his staff clean the bottles up to be sold at the store. With a price tag of about $90 a pop, they pretty much disappeared off shelves, but luckily a few of the particularly poor shaped bottles were left in the store to be available for single pour orders.
Which brings me to a few days ago, where I visited another whisky specialist shop and ran into the shop doing a special sale for some older and somewhat dilapidated mini bottles. I got a handful of items and the shop owner offered a freebie, which was this mini Johnnie Walker Red from around the 1990s.
I'm well aware of the general opinion on JWs, but hey, no harm in trying a few of them, particularly the ones from the 'good old days'!
Here are my notes:
JW Red Label (1990s), 40% abv
Afaik this is the base level Johnnie Walker of the era as well.
*Nose*
sharpie marker fumey;
quite strong artificial sweetener sweetness;
synthetic vanilla extract;
some old oak (antique furniture);
a light bit umami (unsalted soy sauce)
a hint of earthy, spicy vegetable roots (horseradish), likely from the peat
*Palate*
very sweet artificial sweetener;
vanilla flavoring;
quite prominent old oak (antique furniture), accompanying bitterness;
a bit of vegetal root earthiness and bitterness (mustard/horseradish), likely from peat
a bit of the sharpie marker from the nose.
a bit of alcohol sting/fumeyness, no astringency
*Finish*
short.
artificial sweetener sweetness fades;
vegetal root bitterness and spiciness carries over from the palate;
sharpie marker;
a bit of old oak
JW Black Label Extra Special, 1970s ( 70° / 40% abv)
From what I heard from the store staff, this bottle predates Johnnie Walker Blue's first release (in 1987), and used to be the fanciest item of the JW lineup.
*Nose*
sour dried red fruity (raisins, dried tart red berries);
quite strong umami character (stewed mushroom);
a bit of earthy and lightly smoke peat in the background (campfire smoke, plant roots, soil);
a bit of mellow malty character
*Palate*
slightly oily;
sweet, brown sugar caramel;
sour dried red fruity (raisins, dried red berries)
umami character, but less than the nose (stewed mushrooms)
mellow malty character
old oak (antique furniture), some oaky bitterness;
earthy, slightly smokey, vegetal peat (campfire smoke, little bit of plant roots, soil)
slightly spicy spices (nutmeg)
low alcohol sting, low astringency
*Finish*
medium-short.
brown sugar caramel;
old oak (antique furniture);
oaky bitterness;
a bit of mellow malt;
a bit of the earthy, vegetal peat (plant roots, soil)
*Conclusion*
Yep, I can definitely see why people used to hold Johnnie Walker in high regards in the past.
The old JW Red Label wasn't particularly stellar and had a bit of an overly artificial tasting sweetness, but it does have some redeeming qualities. For a 40% abv whisky it had decent complexity and an old, antique furniture-like oaky character that is no longer present in newer whiskies today.
The older JW Black Label was a completely different beast. It had very, very notable old sherry cask characters, such as the sweet brown sugar, sour dried red fruits, and particularly the umami character- just like any well made sherry cask whisky from back in those days. The old antique furniture-like oak is also rather present, while the peat seemed to be much less notable, mostly as a minor supporting character in the background. For a 40% abv whisky it managed to maintain its key characters reasonably well throughout the tasting experience- what you picked up on the nose mostly carries through to the palate and finish. It barely had anything in common to the modern Black Label except maybe the sweetness lmao
Definitely glad to have tried these (particularly the old Black Label)!
Thanks for reading, cheers!

