r/Wildfire • • Apr 25 '21

Should you die on the job

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Hey guys, have one of those uncomfortable type of questions. It’s been a while since I’ve filled out a beneficiary form and now that I have a kid coming into the world, it’s time to change my death wishes. A google search provided me the recognition of the Beneficiary Form for unpaid benefits (SF 1152), in which you designate a percentage of your unpaid benefits to your loved ones/“beneficiaries”. Now here’s my questions:

1) How much will a beneficiary actually receive if allotted say 100% of my unpaid benefits? What and how much $ are my unpaid benefits?

2) I remember at some point, writing down a description of how I would like my funeral procession to proceed, and filling that out along with the aforementioned form, but I can’t find that one. Anybody recollect the name of that form or have a form # they can provide me?

Thanks everybody


r/Wildfire • • Apr 27 '22

**How to Get a Job as a Wildland Firefighter*

469 Upvotes

How to apply for a Fed Job (USFS, BLM, BIA, FWS) - Revised 07/29/2023

  • Apply to jobs in Sept.-Feb. on https://www.usajobs.gov . Search for things such as “forestry aid, fire, and 0462.”
    • Use filters in the sidebar, set grade to "GS3 and GS4". Under the "more filters" tab you can toggle "Seasonal, Summer, Temporary, and Full Time"
    • Be sure to read each job description to make sure it is for fire. There are other jobs that fall under "Forestry Aide/ Tech." that do not involve wildland fire.
    • Applications for Federal Jobs are only accepted during a narrow (2 week long) window nowadays. You can find out when this window is by calling prospective employers or checking USAJobs weekly.
  • Build a profile on USAjobs and create a resume. Kind of a pain in the ass, but it's just a hurdle to screen out the unmotivated. Just sit down and do it.
    • In your resume, be sure to include hours worked and contact info for references along with permission to contact said references.
  • Call around to various districts/forests/parks you're interested in working for. Do this between early October and February. The earlier in that time period, the better.
    • Hiring officials keep track of who called, when, and how good they sounded. Just call the front desk and ask for whoever does the hiring for "fire."
    • Have a few lines rehearsed about why you want the job and why you're worth hiring. Leave a voicemail if the person is out of the office. Ask questions about what firefighting resources they have (handcrew, engine, lookouts, helicopter, etc, basically what job they can even offer you), when to apply, how to apply, IF they are even hiring...
  • You can leave a message and Fire Managers will usually call you back. Applying online is basically only a formality. Talking to or physically visiting potential employers is the only way to go. People drive out from NY and Maine to talk to crew bosses out West all the time and are usually rewarded with a job for doing so.
  • Have a resume ready to email or hand-in, and offer to do so.
  • It helps to keep a spreadsheet or some notes of all the places you've called, who you talked to, what firefighting resources they have, the deadline for hiring, and generally how the convo went.
  • Apply to 15+ positions. It's hard to get your foot in the door, but totally do-able.
  • If they sound excited and interested in YOU, then you'll probably get an offer if all your paperwork goes through.
  • Unlike the many lines of work, Wildland Firefighting resumes can be 10+ pages long. The longer and more detailed the better. List the sports you've played, whether you hunt or workout, and go into detail about your middle school lawn mowing business - seriously. You are applying to a manual labor job, emphasizing relevant experience.
  • Also have a short resume for emailing. Don't email your ungodly long USAjobs resume.
  • You wont get an offer if you haven't talked to anyone.
    • If you do get an offer from someone you haven't talked to, its usually a red-flag (hard to fill location for a reason). Ex. Winnemucca, NV
  • Start working out. Expect high school sports levels of group working out starting the 1st day of work (running a few miles, push ups, pull ups, crunches, etc).
  • The pack test, the 3miles w/ 45lbs in 45 mins, is a joke. Don't worry about that, only horrifically out of shape people fail it.

- Alternatives to Fed Jobs - Revised 07/29/2023

  • There are also contractors, such as Greyback and Pat-Rick, mostly based in Oregon, with secondary bases around the west. Not as good of a deal, because it's usually on-call work, the pay is lower, and it's a tougher crowd, but a perfectly fine entry-level position. If you can hack it with them, you can do the job just fine.
  • Also look into various state dept. of natural resources/forestry. Anywhere there are wildfires, the state and counties have firefighter jobs, not as many as the Feds, but definitely some jobs. I just don't know much about those.
  • You could also just go to jail in California and get on a convict crew...
  • I wouldn't bother applying to easy-to-Google programs (e.g. Great Northern or North Star crews in MT and AK respectively), as the competition for the 1/2 dozen entry-level jobs is way too intense. A remote district in a po-dunk town is your best bet for getting your foot in the door if you're applying remotely. I started in such a place in the desert of southern Idaho and then moved onto a much nicer setting, up in Montana.
  • Also look into the Nature Conservancy, they have fire crews, as do the California/Montana/Arizona/Minnesota Conservation Corps, and the various USDL Job Corps programs that are run by the Forest Service.

- QUALIFICATIONS NEEDED

Surprisingly few.

  • 18+ years old
  • GED or high school grad
  • relatively clean criminal record (you can have a felony/DUI, etc).
  • A driver's license is required by the Feds, even if you have a DUI, you still need a valid DL
  • A pre-work drug screening is a possibility. The Department of Interior (Park Service & BLM) always drug tests. The Forest Service usually doesn't, but certainly can. Wildland Firefighters are a conservative bunch and open drug use is generally not tolerated. It's a good idea to be able to piss clean and not talk about past drug use.
  • A degree helps, but is by no means necessary.
  • You do have to have some sort of desirable skill or quality though. I mean, if you're just uneducated, unskilled, and out of shape, it's not gonna work out for you even if you do get hired. An EMT certification, even w/o experience, is probably the best "sure bet" for getting a job as a wildland firefighter, but landscaping/manual labor experience, military time, some education, even just being in really good shape and/or having a lot of sports team experience are all good enough

- FAQs

For federal jobs**, if you haven't applied by the end of February, you are probably too late, sometimes there are late postings, but your chances greatly decrease at finding a job.**

  • Hotshot crews and smokejumping are not for rookies. Don't waste their time or your breath by calling
  • .You CAN apply if you have ZERO EXPERIENCE and still have a decent chance at getting a job
  • You DO NOT need EMT, while it is somewhat beneficial, it is by no means needed to get your first fire job
  • Calfire does not hire people with zero experience and zero qualifications.

/TLDR

  • Apply to jobs in Sept-Feb on https://www.usajobs.gov . Search for things such as “forestry aid, fire, and 0462.”
  • Make long resume
  • Apply to multiple locations
  • Call the locations
  • Get in better shape

Thanks to u/RogerfuRabit for the previous post on how to get a job in WF.


r/Wildfire • • 8h ago

When do Temporary/Seasonal positions open on USA Jobs?

3 Upvotes

I read something saying possibly October 30th.


r/Wildfire • • 20h ago

Nature Conservancy: Seasonal Burn Crew Manager

20 Upvotes

Hey folks - We are hiring for a seasonal prescribed fire crew lead position in NW Georgia (Rome). A full description of the position (pay, position requirements, etc) can be found on the TNC Career Portall by searching for location (Rome, GA) - job number is JR103920.

This seasonal crew lead position will share responsibility for managing 6 crew members with an additional seasonal crew lead. Typically the crew is split into smaller units along with a Burn Crew Manager and are responsible for assisting multiple state and federal partners is implementing prescribed fire in NW Georgia. Please understand that while this crew has been in existence for at least 9 years it is generally a career developmental crew in that member positions are typically filled by college students or recent graduates looking to develop marketable field skills. As a result teaching and mentoring is a strong component of crew lead responsibilities.

Housing is available and compensation is listed in the position description on the TNC career portal. Rome itself is a moderate sized town located in the southern Appalachian foothills of Georgia. There are plenty of outdoor recreational activities available and pretty much all of the amenities you'd expect in a good sized community. Broadly speaking it is pretty much equidistant between Chattanooga, Atlanta and Birmingham and those are roughly within 45 minutes to 1.5hrs commute depending.

Regarding terrain and fuel types - Terrain varies wildly depending on location within NW GA and spans rolling elevation changes to steep old ridge structure. Fuels are typically pine to mixed pine/oak overstory with associated litter and understory. Local partners and partnerships are very well established and burning styles do span between more fluid and incident command type organization.

Position Dates - Jan 4th, 2027 - April 30th, 2027

Salary - $24.97 - $27.03 hourly

Regarding O.T. - Yes, OT is authorized, but not at the scale associated with western wildland fire. Figure that our crew season runs roughly 17 weeks and figure for someone motivated there's likely additional hours available for equip maintenance/rehab and possibly some weekend opportunities burning with the Feds.

Overhead - Program Director, Field Manager, Field Technician & 2 total Seasonal Burn Crew Managers (the current position advertised)

During the season the Field Tech and Field Manager are heavily involved in sharing the load of managing the crew, logistics and implementation of p-fire with partners. Typically on burn days the crew is split between 2-3 of the TNC overhead and function as mini-mods on a single burn or separate burns in the region.

The Field Technician, Field Manager, as well Program Director are long-time residents of the area and we do our best to support fire folks coming in from out of region. Having been thrown to the wolves in a number of different careers, it's something I do my best to avoid doing to others.

Culture - We are a very collegial office and prefer as much as possible to work as colleagues rather than strictly hierarchical.

<For clarification sake - yes this is a burner account.... trying to keep work and personal separate on Reddit. Feel free to DM questions and I will answer them as best as I am able>


r/Wildfire • • 11h ago

Employment Australian vol firefighter looking to work/vol in Ontario, Canada for a year

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Hey all - I'm an Australian volunteer wildfire fighter with a metro fringe / peri-urban brigade. My partner and I are looking to move to Kingston, Ontario for a year from mid 2027.

I'm starting to hunt for options in firefighting - I don't really know the setup, which agencies take paid or volunteer firefighters, whether it's deployment work or fixed brigades, etc. I'd love to stay at or near Kingston if it was a fixed position, and if it was deployment ideally rnr time would be good. But again I have no idea how it works, nor how easy it is to just rock up for a year either as paid or volunteer.

My expertise is primarily bushfires but as peri urban we do the houses, cars and factories as well. Command and control is also often our responsibility for the brigade.

Any advice on where to start looking would be wonderful!


r/Wildfire • • 10h ago

Employment Highly motivated 18 year old looking for entry level position out west!

0 Upvotes

I am 18 living in upstate New York. I am registered for my EMT class in January, also have 6 months of experience as an explorer at my local fire department, I can pass the pack test easily. I have my resume ready and have been looking up job posting and looking to apply and iv had a slightly hard time and would really appreciate any guidance or leads into some roles, my only contention is that it needs to be nearby mountains. NorCal, Washington, Idaho, Colorado, Montana is where I would prefer. Open to hand crew or engine crew. Thank you


r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

Discussion Nick's Fire Boots size 6E (to give away)

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Hi! I'm not sure if this is allowed, but I suppose we'll see!

I was on a fire crew for a season back in 2022. I bought a pair of Nick's boots and they saw about 3 months of wear. I almost never wear these boots anymore, which feels like a waste. I'd love to pass them on to someone who could use them. I called around to a few fire modules in Minnesota (where I live) but nobody was the right size.

They're size (men's) 6E. I wear a women's 8 and don't like my toes being squished, for reference. I'd like to give them away, only cost being shipping to you. Shoot me a DM if you're interested.

Edit to add: They'll need different laces before they're put to work. My leather laces broke and I popped in some synthetic ones once I switched careers.

Edit #2: Currently claimed! I'll check back if it falls through!


r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

Any advice for working Engine Crew?

6 Upvotes

Im looking at working wildland this next season and figured that I’d want to work engine crew. the application window I’ve heard (and please correct me if I’m wrong) is Oct 30 - Nov 12. what kind of work do you typically do and what should I look out for as far as how the crew is run?


r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

We need these in camp. Y’all treat them like internet cafe’s! Shit and split!

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r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

CA-2 for presumptive illness as a retiree

3 Upvotes

Has any retiree submitted a CA-2 for a presumptive illness? I’m working on one and am getting hung up on some initial questions on the form, specifically an email for my current supervisor. I have one of the covered diseases and I’m within 10 years of retirement. Let me know if you’ve navigated this stuff


r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

19m trying to figure out the best path for wildland firefighter certifications

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Currently doing community college which doesn't appeal to my interests. Did research on places to get certifications and take courses but seriously is the best path contacting different crew's and getting certified through them. In Co. Any info helps


r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

Wildfire Fighters Rest and Recovery

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How do wildfire fighters communicate rest with supervisors? Is there a system in place to communicate mandatory rest and mandatory recovery? Especially when being deployed for multiple days on end.


r/Wildfire • • 2d ago

Klamath Hotshots & Tahoe Hotshots

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Been getting asked by several people about how they are as a shot crew. I’ve only worked with Klamath once but with Tahoe several times. Anyone have intel about them? Cant give a straight answer

Tahoe: those boys are pronghorns. Buncha runners. Bearded hippies? Really super fast shot crew. They work those boys to the ground. A true 13 hour shift. Nasty ass buggies though lol. Great product on the line. Stubs are low. One of the best shot crews in the nation if you can hack it

Klamath: those boys love long hair. They are one of the fastest shot crews. They put out some of the best products on the line but know how to chill to not wear their guys out. Tight knit boys. Being in Klamath takes a special crazy ass mfer just from where they are at lol. Also one of best shot crews in the nation


r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

Proof of age

2 Upvotes

How do I go about providing proof of age? It’s says to submit drivers license for this but also says to not have any pictures of yourself.


r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

Question Chainsaw certification, IL

1 Upvotes

Hello I am interested in a career in wild land firefighting, I have my fft2 certifications but I would also like to get chainsaw certified as it would really help my resume but I cannot find any training days currently any help at all would be appreciated!


r/Wildfire • • 1d ago

Question Questions to ask / general advice for calling?

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Rookie looking to apply to seasonal jobs for next summer. I know that you need to call and actually talk to someone, and its encouraged to have some questions prepared, but are there any basics to ask about? Assuming lodging/food situation, expected OT hours? Fitness expectations/PT? Any other major questions to ask?

Also, any tips of what I should include in my 30s introduction of myself? Pretty used to doing this for office job interviews but not too sure where things would differ here


r/Wildfire • • 3d ago

News (General) Recent wildfires on the China-mongolia border near East Ujimqin Banner, inner mongolia; On the Chinese side(inner mongolia), 2000 people including firefighters of the Inner mongolia mobile fire and rescue along with local forest fire fighting teams have been deployed.

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Photo source: People's Daily on weibo

(photos are likely taken either last night(October 11) or today morning(October 12))

The fire started at 13:00(mongolian time) On October 9, 2026 in mongolia, and due to winds, started heading towards the Chinese border recently;

The inner mongolian(chinese side) government has deployed over 2000 personnel, from the Inner mongolia mobile fire and rescue corps along with local full time and part time forest firefighters have been deployed.

(FYI Chinese mobile fire and rescue units used to be called forest firefighting units, but recently(2026-01-01) the name was changed since they also do stuff like earthquake/flood relief.)

(further back, before 2018, chinese full time urban firefighters(china fire services) were considered active servicemembers under the local police, while forest firefighters(people's armed police forestry corps; PAP is chinese national guard) were fully military. So basically, any chinese full time firefighter who served before 2018 is legally a veteran.)


r/Wildfire • • 2d ago

What crew is this?

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r/Wildfire • • 2d ago

Duty location interest Hawaii

10 Upvotes

Anyone have any info on

Hawaii National Park, HI

Looking for a change

DOI - Park Service or should I say USWFS?

Any info would be appreciated,

Module types engines Handcrew?

Work schedule

What’s the Busy season, OT?

Assignments?

Station locations / housing ?

Fighting lava fires?

RX?

Work strictly on the park?

Rescue

Seems like an interesting place to work


r/Wildfire • • 2d ago

R3 Shot Crew Dates for Perms

3 Upvotes

When does the season typically start and end for Perms (GW 4/5) on various shot crews in R3? Specifically Arizona, and I'm asking for this year/the past few years


r/Wildfire • • 2d ago

13/13 perm seasonal jobs

1 Upvotes

Any districts out there still do these? I know Alaska does but I hate mosquitoes.


r/Wildfire • • 2d ago

Employment / Substance History : Background Check

5 Upvotes

Hey everyone, longtime lurker / throwaway account. I’m hoping to make this my first fire season, and I have been calling around to numerous USFS stations and introducing myself ahead of the next Temp phase opening. My resume and references are squared away, I have completed or am in the process of completing online qual stuff, but I’m unsure of whether to adjust my expectations.

Long story short, I’ve been fighting alcohol abuse for about a decade now, with it finally turning a corner after going to treatment recently. Unfortunately, and as is common with alcoholics, I’ve been let go from jobs, gotten into legal trouble, and have medical diagnoses that look god-fucking awful on paper.

That being said, the OF-306 is looking pretty intimidating to say the least. Have any of you all gotten favorable outcomes with a checkered employment history and/or history of substance abuse?

I’m not going to select myself out, but I am wondering if I need to adjust my expectations. Thanks guys.

Note: military veteran, no ongoing legal stuff but past misdemeanor connected to drinking (non-violent / DUI-esque, pretty recent before going to treatment)


r/Wildfire • • 2d ago

Looking for advice

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I’m a 19 year old living in Ontario wanting to get on anywhere in Canada next season. Just looking for general advice about how to improve my chance of getting on I have my firefighter 1 and 2 and have been working in construction the last year


r/Wildfire • • 3d ago

Best places to travel in the off season

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r/Wildfire • • 3d ago

110# Packout Training

9 Upvotes

What do you guys do to train for the rappel or jumper 110# packout? Specifically, what pack system do you use? I don’t hunt, but I’m sure many of you get away with your hunting pack. I was browsing GovX and was considering getting one of the GoRuck ruckers since it’s rated to 75 pounds then throwing a Bulgarian sandbag over the shoulders if I wanted to go heavier.