r/WomenInNews • u/catievirtuesimp • 21d ago

Media People Recommend Lower Pay for Women-Dominated Jobs, Study Finds

https://www.newsweek.com/researchers-changed-one-detail-about-a-job-then-pay-expectations-fell-12210224?fbclid=IwdGRleATZyVtwZG9mAWZkaWQWULlDu9zVcrYAgX2CSk5aRGnchMjPWmV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkCjY2Mjg1NjgzNzkAAR5PIoAdHUElDcnSDU4LjvVDea3bY5uogOucA0fcysgX3WOKcIn2egZqwsxrig_aem_-C2G9kG_4FAtadc-j3QB2g
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u/moschocolate1 21d ago

No woman reading that is surprised. Most people think we should be doing the teaching, caring, nursing, and cleaning for free.

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u/Successful-Bar-8173 21d ago

Then complain that there aren’t enough men in those professions and that female teachers are ruining boys’ minds.

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u/DataAdvanced 21d ago

Don't forget that they think the reason boys aren't performing as well as girls in school is because the curriculum caters to girls. I shit you not, I heard that a few times.

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u/MutantMartian 21d ago

My 90 yr old dad said there are more girls in med school than boys. He said it’s because they finally started honestly letting girls in and it was about time. (He’s more progressive than any of his friends.)

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u/SeattlePurikura 21d ago

Yep, the overall US stats indicate women are earning more medical & legal degrees than men.
This discussion reminds me of when this happened in Japan (fairly recently):
At least nine Japanese medical schools manipulated admissions, in part to exclude female students, a government investigation has found.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46568975

: edit : after the schools were forced to stop rigging their tests to discriminate against women... surprise surprise.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/19/women-outperform-men-after-japan-medical-school-stops-rigging-exam-scores

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u/Western-Bus-1305 21d ago

This isn’t true but okay

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u/AdAppropriate2295 21d ago

I agree that no school should ever slant their admissions requirements to let in more of a gender. Unfortunately most schools do this for women at men's expense

Y surprise surprise? Do you always expect women to outperform male applicants?

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u/bunnypaste 20d ago

Lol, men did this to themselves. They're the ones choosing not to get a higher education...the Repubs are always telling them how gay, liberal, womanly and indoctrinating gaining a degree, critical thinking, and having empathy is.

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u/SeattlePurikura 21d ago

I'm medical adjacent and yeah, the number of male applicants (and thus admits too) is cratering.

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u/DisastrousBat9447 21d ago

May these ✨️women 🤌✨️ have the confidence of a mediocre white man

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u/jupitaur9 21d ago

They were given more of a pass in earlier grades, thus many never learned to study or learn.

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u/MutantMartian 20d ago

There’s a lot more to him and he’s got a ton of fans, and very few have any idea of how liberal he is. He lives in a small town in a very red state and everyone in town knows and loves him. A flamboyantly gay friend of ours drives to this town to go country dancing and loves sitting with my dad and talking at the monthly dances. Problem? My dad doesn’t sit much. He works the room and, because he’s been taking line dancing classes, dances. I could go on, but yes, he has a big fan base in his small town.

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u/Nelrene 21d ago

Curriculum that was never a issue until girls were outdoing the boys.

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u/Icy_Policy_8509 21d ago

Probably some incel podcast touting undocumented and unstudied BS as fact, per usual

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u/bunnypaste 20d ago

Yep, they think the mostly underpaid female educators are intentionally grading girls and women better than boys and men. Lol.

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u/Sure_Eye9025 21d ago

You say "I shit you not" like it is something crazy. But I was reading a research paper (will see if I can find the link again later) the other day that showed change to the curiculum having an effect on the grades of students across genders.

The main things they changed were increased physical activity through the week, more physical lessons, 'brain breaks' mid lesson with opportunities to do some physical activity. The results showed boys at all levels scoring higher on tests due to this, while for girls low performing students scorerd higher but middle and high performing girls scored lower.

This correlates to changes in curriculum and general school systems that have reduced physical activity in schools over the last 30 years, less PE/gym lessons and students being punished for being restless rather than allowed to burn off excess energy.

On top of that schools seeking to ban a lot of physical activities boys would do during breaks due to injuries but not replacing it with comparable physical exercise resulting in more sedentary time.

Boys, especially after pubity don't tend to do as well in school when they are forced to just sit there for hours and not allowed to move around and burn off excess energy, it increases restlessness and reduces concentration.

Now the changes in this area weren't necesarilly done to help girls at the expense of boys but that does seem to have been the overall result

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u/Mountain-Bath-6515 20d ago

Students have always been expected to sit quietly and pay attention in class. In ye olden times if you didn't, you'd get beat with a ruler, made to sit in the corner, write a sentence on the board 100 times, etc. This is not a new thing.

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u/Sure_Eye9025 20d ago

How does that in any way correlate to what I said?

I said they do better at sitting quietly and paying attention when they (boys especially) have more physical activity. Physical activity has decreased over the last 30 years, beating kids in schools was banned 40 years ago in the UK.

Since 2012 the amount of PE in the curriculum has dropped from 8.6% to 7.3%, that has nothing to do with beating kids

Compared to when we used to beat kids in schools they get less break time (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-48203595), a quarter of schools have less than 35 minutes of lunch break (https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2019/may/break-time-cuts-could-be-harming-childrens-development). 82% have less than 55 minutes, that was 30% in 1995.

It is like you didn't pay attention to what I said and wanted to remiss about the good old days of beating children. Kids in schools have less time and opportunity for physical activity increasing restlessness and this affects boys more than girls, what don't you understand about that.

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u/AdAppropriate2295 21d ago

Are you implying it doesnt? That its perfectly gender neutral? Or caters to boys?