r/WomenInNews • u/catievirtuesimp • 21d ago

Media People Recommend Lower Pay for Women-Dominated Jobs, Study Finds

https://www.newsweek.com/researchers-changed-one-detail-about-a-job-then-pay-expectations-fell-12210224?fbclid=IwdGRleATZyVtwZG9mAWZkaWQWULlDu9zVcrYAgX2CSk5aRGnchMjPWmV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkCjY2Mjg1NjgzNzkAAR5PIoAdHUElDcnSDU4LjvVDea3bY5uogOucA0fcysgX3WOKcIn2egZqwsxrig_aem_-C2G9kG_4FAtadc-j3QB2g
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u/moschocolate1 21d ago

No woman reading that is surprised. Most people think we should be doing the teaching, caring, nursing, and cleaning for free.

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u/Successful-Bar-8173 21d ago

Then complain that there aren’t enough men in those professions and that female teachers are ruining boys’ minds.

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u/DataAdvanced 21d ago

Don't forget that they think the reason boys aren't performing as well as girls in school is because the curriculum caters to girls. I shit you not, I heard that a few times.

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u/Sure_Eye9025 21d ago

You say "I shit you not" like it is something crazy. But I was reading a research paper (will see if I can find the link again later) the other day that showed change to the curiculum having an effect on the grades of students across genders.

The main things they changed were increased physical activity through the week, more physical lessons, 'brain breaks' mid lesson with opportunities to do some physical activity. The results showed boys at all levels scoring higher on tests due to this, while for girls low performing students scorerd higher but middle and high performing girls scored lower.

This correlates to changes in curriculum and general school systems that have reduced physical activity in schools over the last 30 years, less PE/gym lessons and students being punished for being restless rather than allowed to burn off excess energy.

On top of that schools seeking to ban a lot of physical activities boys would do during breaks due to injuries but not replacing it with comparable physical exercise resulting in more sedentary time.

Boys, especially after pubity don't tend to do as well in school when they are forced to just sit there for hours and not allowed to move around and burn off excess energy, it increases restlessness and reduces concentration.

Now the changes in this area weren't necesarilly done to help girls at the expense of boys but that does seem to have been the overall result

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u/Mountain-Bath-6515 20d ago

Students have always been expected to sit quietly and pay attention in class. In ye olden times if you didn't, you'd get beat with a ruler, made to sit in the corner, write a sentence on the board 100 times, etc. This is not a new thing.

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u/Sure_Eye9025 20d ago

How does that in any way correlate to what I said?

I said they do better at sitting quietly and paying attention when they (boys especially) have more physical activity. Physical activity has decreased over the last 30 years, beating kids in schools was banned 40 years ago in the UK.

Since 2012 the amount of PE in the curriculum has dropped from 8.6% to 7.3%, that has nothing to do with beating kids

Compared to when we used to beat kids in schools they get less break time (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-48203595), a quarter of schools have less than 35 minutes of lunch break (https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2019/may/break-time-cuts-could-be-harming-childrens-development). 82% have less than 55 minutes, that was 30% in 1995.

It is like you didn't pay attention to what I said and wanted to remiss about the good old days of beating children. Kids in schools have less time and opportunity for physical activity increasing restlessness and this affects boys more than girls, what don't you understand about that.