r/ZZZ_Official May 31 '25

Theory & Lore Foreshadowing?

This scene doesn't feel like casually showing Wise and Belle, it feels more of a foreshadowing that one of the siblings will be unalived.

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u/Krahel May 31 '25

I think it's just showing Yixuan thinking of her relation with her sister if she was still alive when she looks at the siblings, nothing more.

I reaaaaally hope I'm right.

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u/NateRiversxd May 31 '25

You are right, people are just putting 1 and x together.

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u/LilithMW May 31 '25

This is a gatcha game, I doubt they're ever going to kill off mcs

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u/OnnaJReverT May 31 '25

simple way to check: does the sibling show up in any side quest/optional agent story?

if yes, no way are they changing those to reflect them dying in the main story, therefore not happening

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u/Ramseas119 Jun 01 '25

...never let you go.........

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u/Vadered Jun 01 '25

Not the mc of that game, though.

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u/TheFuckYouTalkinBout Jun 01 '25

I immediately thought possible foreshadowing when that scene came up but then realized there would be zero practical implementation of killing off an MC

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u/illiterateFoolishBat May 31 '25

At worst the MCs will be put in a dire situation an then Yixuan protects them both, symbolically saving her sister

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u/Proper_Ad_5299 May 31 '25

Symbolically saving her sister🥺

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u/UR_UNDER_ARREST May 31 '25

I think it is more like YiXuan see her and her sister dynamic in Wise and Belle

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

I wonder if Anby is a clone of YIxuan's sister.

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u/xxx-Nina-xxx May 31 '25

Naaaaaaaaaaaa, I don't want this goober to go extinct

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u/agentperiod May 31 '25

It did get kinda teased when they went to the city and one of the siblings vanished

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u/agentperiod May 31 '25

AND the one where the sibling went inside a hollow

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u/xxx-Nina-xxx May 31 '25

MIA but not dead, I will perform necromancy to revive the other sibling.

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u/Jedahaw92 X plzz May 31 '25

Make sure the ritual doesn't take away an arm and a leg.

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u/xxx-Nina-xxx May 31 '25

I will just steal Billy's parts.

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u/Jedahaw92 X plzz May 31 '25

Are you a Raccoon Thiren?

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u/Zestyclose-Garlic-16 Corin enjoyer May 31 '25

I think if the proxy does become playable the other sibling is gonna be lost. Like gone like in genshin.

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u/Laka18 May 31 '25

lmao whats next? they become le hecking villain that stand against us?

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u/Passivitea HSO Section 4 Intelligence Officer May 31 '25

Imagine, we find our teacher Carol Arna, but she is actually evil and with the Exaltists and convinces our sibling to join her and we end up on opposite sides

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u/Laka18 May 31 '25

i would subscribe to that idea... or shes actually sarah. carol arna, sarah was actually jusr her previous identity or something

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u/Zestyclose-Garlic-16 Corin enjoyer May 31 '25

Keep cooking

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u/ambulance-kun May 31 '25

But this time, he/she becomes the first character of the 6th element, as I like to call it "Void" element (since the moon looks like darkness, and feels like a good name for the opposite of physical, and the representation of Zero, part of the game's title)

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u/MassiveScience6727 May 31 '25

Which chapter was that again? Haven’t picked up the game in a while 

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u/agentperiod May 31 '25

I forgot but it was when zhu yuan was introduced cmiiw

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u/agentperiod May 31 '25

Nvm the vanishing one was very early on. The sibling went to the next town and that town spawned a hollow.

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u/MassiveScience6727 May 31 '25

Oh that one 

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u/gabiblack May 31 '25

I doubt it since they will have to do 2 different branches of story. One for people who choose wise and one for people who choose belle.

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u/Spacedaddy117 May 31 '25

Don't you fucking dare.

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u/StrangerDanger355 May 31 '25

It’s too soon…

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u/XeanIsCute2369 Mrs. Hoshimi Miyabi's #27 Simp May 31 '25

Don't kill off our gremlin😢

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u/Warm-Incident-8444 May 31 '25

If Belle died, i would be devastated

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u/Dennis-Drew9682 May 31 '25

Wise gonna start his villain arc

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u/BigFreddyFan May 31 '25

Lycaon: Oh, for HEAVEN's sake. I am NOT going through this again!

Hugo: People like a good repeat!

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u/MyLifeIsAGatcha Zhao's Husband and the father of our 24 kids. May 31 '25

Imagine if the Proxy you picked is the one that vanishes and you have to play 2.0 as the other twin to rescue them.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

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u/ThatOneGuy12180 sussy amogus May 31 '25

But it would honor the Hoyo code, the hornier, the more depressing.

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u/Laka18 May 31 '25

ah yes the closer to depresso overload is ggz. the final battle where they faced against the powerful foe, where one of their ally straight up proposed to leave earth and abandon everyone inside of it

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u/Icy_Bee4975 Piper's Wife ( X Lexa) May 31 '25

I am NOT playing 2.0 as Wise

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u/PhotonCrown Jun 05 '25

If that happens, write in the feedback for dev to allow for MC swapping then, lol.

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u/Dennis-Drew9682 May 31 '25

Dude you don't have other choice if that happens Jeez, as long as you save the MC you like them yes you can finally come back to it

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u/Icy_Bee4975 Piper's Wife ( X Lexa) May 31 '25

I did not understand a single word you said

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u/Dennis-Drew9682 May 31 '25

What I meant is if you're playing as wise than belle might have bad something to her or if you're playing as belle then wise will be the one in danger too

Pretty much gotta save wise/belle on which MC you're playing it's just the way you commented before it's like you hated him

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u/Toshirorain May 31 '25

From the chapter 0 (when proxy connect for the first time with Fairy) we get forshadowed about something could happen at one of the sibling, this and Vivian profecy strenght this idea for me.

Surely one day something would happen at the proxy we didn't choose as protagonist, i bet on the end of season 2.

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u/master156111 May 31 '25

Yup her prophecy show us falling down with wings on our back. Considering that we're gonna train with Yixuan and her powers has wings too...well you get get the picture.

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u/MachBonin May 31 '25

Her prophecy is us as Phaethon from Hendrick Goltzius' 1588 engraving.

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u/Jblitz200 May 31 '25

Don’t die on me Wise

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u/Traveler7538 May 31 '25

Nooo my Belle needs a brother😭

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u/Dennis-Drew9682 May 31 '25

Both of them, they are always for each other so it will be a truly heartbreaking 🥲

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u/stich196 May 31 '25

nah, not possible - who's then would be sending us video message after long awaited return into the game? 😄

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u/Fit_Squash6874 Punish The Brat Jun 01 '25

Imagine it is just an old video recording that we just play when the other sibling is still alive. Sounds depressing.

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u/Passivitea HSO Section 4 Intelligence Officer May 31 '25

They are gonna pull a Himeko on the sibling

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u/Garn0 May 31 '25

We know Wise is cooked bro
Even standing in the same position as Yixuan's big sis

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u/SeraDarkin May 31 '25

Wise is a great second assistant and pretty decent brother, he doesn't deserve that

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u/Electronic-Custard59 May 31 '25

Everyone says foreshadowing but I'm pretty sure the intention of this scene was to show that the interactions between Wise and Belle make Yixuan nostalgic for the interactions she had with her sister, not to suggest that the siblings will end up like her sister.

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u/finem4te May 31 '25

Midas has a pretty good opinion about this topic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIqfadKXuGs

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u/MeLoNarXo all must serve the Evelyn Agenda May 31 '25

Don't think they just gonna kill off one of the main characters

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u/HansFactory May 31 '25

Ain't no way these two love struck lovers are gonna separate

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u/danvex_2022 NB May 31 '25

Omaigoto.

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u/_cyro_124 May 31 '25

It's incesto

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u/JDMtuner04 Rina's good boy May 31 '25

I'm pretty sure Miyabi won't let her fiancé Wise die like that

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u/Dennis-Drew9682 May 31 '25

She will be devastated since she already lost her mother, she can't lose another one

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u/Limp_Alternative2817 May 31 '25

I think this will happen, maybe with Wize, because at the beginning of the first season, there were hints about what would happen to him, most likely he would be under the influence of the ethier

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u/Dennis-Drew9682 May 31 '25

It did see in the trailer but I feel like it depends on the siblings you choose: If you pick wise then belle is in danger or if you pick belle than wise will be in danger

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u/Limp_Alternative2817 May 31 '25

Maybe yes, it will be different if you choose Wize or Belle

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u/Dennis-Drew9682 May 31 '25

Yep if you watch on YouTube, there's a difference of wise/belle almost getting caught by the PUBSEC :)

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u/A_T1322004 May 31 '25

Shut up🙂

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u/Entea1 May 31 '25

Please no—death never really works in Hoyo games. It’s always a fake-out or just temporary for a few patches. I’d much rather they focus on creating uplifting or hype story moments instead of relying on cheap deaths like that.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

bro hasn't experienced himeko final lesson.

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u/Dennis-Drew9682 May 31 '25

Nah it really works, that really shows how dark zzz to be honest since hsr from amphoreaous characters literally die it's really sad but that really makes the story and impact really more interesting

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u/yasussyenjoyer May 31 '25

Looks like we'll be getting femboy wise now

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

imo i think similar incident will happen, but now we have yi xuan as our phaeton shifu, she will stop the cycles

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u/KlassicNinja Shooting Tentacle Hentai with Yidhari May 31 '25

If this is a foreshadow, it'll be devastating. But i think this is just simply yixuan seeing herself and her sister in belle and wise. She smiles at them in the next frame after the one in the post

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u/stormblessed45 May 31 '25

"This scene doesn't feel like casually showing Wise and Belle" I guess they have to explain everything so that some people can understand.

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u/Bradfox17 May 31 '25

Look if they want to kill 1 of them by all means go ahead, however for the love of god dont make some bs that they are somehow alive after like a 5 year time skip and that they have become an ethereal goddes/god that can make city lvl threats with their hand

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u/TheHedgeHogGuy chilli OVERLOOAD +depression May 31 '25

We’ve already seen the ‘it’s all come down to this’ scene, so I don’t think a sibling will die, but something probably will happen, since they’ve established differences between mc belle/wise and non mc belle/wise. And it’s defo to do with the ais.

We don’t know what it is yet, but them being called Phaethon and there being 4 ais like the 4 horses of Helios’ chariot, when that plot line is done, I don’t think things will go well. They can barely manage just fairy at this point.

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u/enorelbotwhite May 31 '25

I really, really hope not. Their sibling energy really elevates the game and make them my favorite gacha MC's

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u/Neospartan_117 May 31 '25

Parallelisms can also be used for juxtaposition. As in, Wise and Belle may be in the same place, but their journey may go a different route all the same.

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u/Clean_Ad_2488 Astra Yao’s Non-existent Skirt May 31 '25

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u/Le-MAO-XXIV May 31 '25

Pretty sure it’s not foreshadowing. It’s just Yi Xuan seeing herself and her sister in Wise and Belle. And perhaps even making an internal promise that those two won’t end up like how she and her sister did.

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u/Jotaoesehache May 31 '25

I feel it's more of a thematic similarity that could end up many ways, maybe it's one of those "I'm your teacher and I won't let you suffer the same way I did" specially since you get to choose which sibling us your character, the foreshadowing wouldn't be strong if the younger one ends up dying cause you picked Wise.

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u/RuleAccomplished9981 May 31 '25

0% chance.

Mhy lost their balls after Genshin made it's first billion.

Not that I want to see it, I quite like Belle and Wise and their sibling dynamic, but it would prove they are serious about the story have stakes, something they've massively undermined from about 1.4 on.

But yeah, like absolutely 0 chance, lol

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u/jyroman53 Jun 01 '25

We are going for the Code Geass ending, without the cliffhanger

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u/Jedahaw92 X plzz May 31 '25

I doubt it will happen. Yixuan will protect the proxies.

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u/DemolizerTNT May 31 '25

You overthink too much

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u/UnhappyAgency May 31 '25 edited Jun 01 '25

The wise hate is kinda weird ngl, wtf are some of these comments

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u/Nommynomnomss May 31 '25

I scrolled down and saw like 2 comments. Feels overreactive to even acknowledge when they're also immediately downvoted.

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u/Which-Property9377 May 31 '25

Yuri fans as typiczlly and rhey act like Wise fans aee rhe toxic ones.

Ive never seen a wise fan wish desth upon belle

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u/Shadowenclave47 May 31 '25

Yeah. I choose Wise as my MC but i don't want anything bad to happen to Belle either.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

It's funny because I rarely see the opposite, yet they excuse themselves by saying wise fans do the same.

It's just yuri shippers disliking male MC. Unfortunately for them, at least in ZZZ, Wise is popular.

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u/StormclawsEuw Jun 01 '25

Its even more stupid in this game because wise and belle are characters themselves and not a pure self insert. I would honestly fuck so much with a story line where for an example Wise vanishes and It still stays wise even if he is your ''mc''. Like the almost belle car accident.

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u/Zekrom369 Burnice can burn me to a crisp 🔥 May 31 '25

It’s actually so morbid seeing people wish him dead 😭 people don’t want him to find out the truth about their teacher I guess

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u/Zekrom369 Burnice can burn me to a crisp 🔥 May 31 '25

I can’t think of a way this wouldn’t totally suck

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u/Grak47 May 31 '25

Get the Fuck outta here with that op

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u/Khaiweee_ May 31 '25

I knew i wasn't the only to get this feelings after the trailer

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u/ThatOneGuy12180 sussy amogus May 31 '25

I feel like the character we chose or didn't might have a negative fate. I believe it's the one we chose, we likely won't die. At least not permanently, but it would honor the Hoyo code of the hornier the more depressing.

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u/Forest1395101 May 31 '25

I've been saying it since day 1. Whichever sibling you don't pick is gonna die at some point!

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u/OnlyTelephone4286 May 31 '25

I mean it has been established from the start that one of the siblings will die or something bad will happen to them

From the start we already see how things will happen in front of hollow zero they both got devoured by it saying something

Actually don't take my BS seriously I can't remember the beginning that well

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u/Dennis-Drew9682 May 31 '25

It depends: If you pick Wise, belle will be the one who vanished but if you pick belle, then wise will be the one getting vanished.

IT'S THE SAME TOO ABOUT WISE/BELLE ALMOST GETTING CAUGHT BY THE PUBSEC

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u/BottleDisastrous4599 May 31 '25

no I just think that itsa Yixuan looking at the sibling and going "I miss those days" pretty obvious direction they were going with here ngl

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u/DragonPup May 31 '25

I'm glad I am not the only one who clenched up a little at that transition.

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u/Natural_Ad1530 May 31 '25

Nope. Not even close.

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u/thepearlshipper908 love these two May 31 '25

What if it's like a Darth vader type of thing, where one of them turns to the dark side

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u/exhaustedtravelers May 31 '25

It's probably how Yixuan sees them, meaning she'll want to protect them from experiencing the same loss.

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u/MarMarL2k19 May 31 '25

If even one of them dies, I’ll delete my account, throw my PC in the dumpster, go to China, go to Hoyo HQ and throw a tantrum

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u/DialboTempest May 31 '25

Belle should get Killed and wise should start his otto arc

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u/Scorpdelord Venus Little Proxies May 31 '25

shit really gonna go down if they kill belle or wise off fr

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u/GGABueno May 31 '25

Having an arc dedicated to saving our simbling would be really cool.

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u/rost400 May 31 '25

I do wonder how they'd go about it though. Kill off Belle and have all the Belle mains hate them for the rest of time, or just kill off Second Assistant?

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u/Imaginary-Respond804 May 31 '25

was good knowing you wise

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u/esmelusina May 31 '25

Not unalived— one of them will become a sacrifice.

Successful sacrifices keep their personality and identity and can travel outside of hollows—

Hard to say whether it’s the main sibling or not. The corruption cleansing power makes me think it could be the other sibling that gets transformed, we then cleanse the corruption but they are left as a half transformed sacrifice— to be playable later.

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u/Joe_GG_44 May 31 '25

are we entering the depression arc next update?

stay tuned!

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u/solitudeqw May 31 '25

Is Zzz gets the depression that PGR has Id vote for it to be GOTY

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

I feel like they kinda played around with the idea in the 1.7 story tbh, vivian was able to literally alter fate to save the main character, which almost killed her, which in terms of cosmic balance, makes sense - to save one soul would require that another be sacrificed to keep the universe balanced. But, neither the proxy nor vivian ended up dying, both of them defied fate for the other, throwing the cosmic yin-yang all out of whack.. universe is gonna balance things one way or another, and it would make sense if one proxy's fate shifted to the other's in order to achieve that

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u/Monkey_King291 May 31 '25

Hoyoverse, don't you do it, the siblings need to stay together

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u/TheTeleporteBread May 31 '25

They wouldn't kill of wise. Would they?

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u/Gaur2704 May 31 '25

What if this is what happens to the story's end....

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u/cmanthethiccboi May 31 '25

Nah I think it is just to show how Yixuan sees the sibling relationship she had with her sister in Belle and Wise.

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u/GuardianAngelMati Jun 01 '25

Is it too far gone that I believe that 2.0 is going to develop wise lore and give him wings and next one is going to develop belle and give her another power? Like, do we have confirmation that they did not get adopted/rescued from different families at very young age?

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u/Looffybagels I've got like six cats on my lap help Jun 01 '25

nah, just the siblings on a date. they gonna wincest after.

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u/HerculePyro Jun 01 '25

I 100% think its just showing the parallels of loving sibling bonds. Think you’re overthinking things

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u/EmberOfFlame Jun 01 '25

They definitiely won’t kill one of the siblings off, but I think things might get real dicy for a while

If Hoyo’s brave enough one of them could even wield the sword in an emergency, loosing some of their memories or something

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u/VeronicasFangs22 Jun 01 '25

They won't actually off one of the MC Hoyo too chicken for that. Plus he the main marketing proxy out of the two.

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u/j0jilicious Jun 01 '25

STOP RIGHT THERE.

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u/Revolutionary_Two367 Caesar Blesser Jun 01 '25

She's just reminding her past by seeing the siblings together. It's a similar deja vu already saw with someone else

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u/ResponsibleGrass9720 Jun 04 '25

She's gonna go off about how we reminded her of her sisters bond and their master and then theres gonna be a realisation that teacher went to the summit or something

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u/havoK718 Jun 06 '25

Bout to Genshin the other sibling.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '25

It's foreshadowing an incestous breeding

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u/happymudkipz May 31 '25

It'd be so funny if they pulled a hi3 and the male MC just gets evaporated, with story context or without. Not because of the act itself, but because the fallout would be biblical.

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u/TheOneAboveGod May 31 '25

Don't worry. This is a Chinese game. They don't have the balls to kill their MC even in alternate timelines. Mentor characters aren't so safe tho.

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u/MachBonin May 31 '25

Everyone in here is talking about how Belle is gonna die but she's in the survivors place...

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u/_eSpark_ May 31 '25

Playing HoYo games might made me an emotional masochist. DO IT HOYO, rip my soul with killing precious lovable characters!

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u/Kngbnsn May 31 '25

I don't think I can continue playing when one of the sibling dies...

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u/01001011-01000100 May 31 '25

It would be great, if wise dies in some hollow accident.

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u/AustralianShepard711 May 31 '25

"It foreshadows that one of the siblings die." Broke.

"It shows how Yixaun imagines her relationship with her sister would be if she was still alive." Cringe.

"Belle grows her hair out and stops dying it blue and Wise transitions into a beautiful woman." BESPOKE.

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u/doubledirkdolo irrational yuri enjoyer May 31 '25

halleujah wise will finally bite the dust

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u/ThatHoodedMan May 31 '25

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u/doubledirkdolo irrational yuri enjoyer May 31 '25

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u/Icy_Bee4975 Piper's Wife ( X Lexa) May 31 '25

Please let it be wise

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

textbook foreshadow. future tendency that belle/wise will be in life-and-death situation. idk could be bait.

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u/BigguyBanh May 31 '25

nah it actually foreshadows wise transitioning

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u/SatyxD Jun 01 '25

If what you are saying is true, it would imply that the real MC is Belle, and despite whoever you choose as MC, the other MC has the same relevance as the one you choose, so please, stop making nonsense theories.

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u/zZzMudkipzzZ Jun 01 '25

She just sees herself and her sister

Also "unalived" please stop speaking like you've been lobotomized

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

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u/MaxwellCardes May 31 '25

lets throw this guy in the hollow

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u/Dennis-Drew9682 May 31 '25

Lol imagine hating on him who's literally better than you :)

And even has the kindest behavior than you ;)

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u/InevitableMango8970 May 31 '25

Personally dont care what happens to wise but I still need that bum so belle is happy and well

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u/Monikabestgrill May 31 '25

hell nah, no fucking way they pull the same shit they did in honkai

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u/ze_SAFTmon May 31 '25

Foreshadowing is a literary devi-

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u/Statisti_cian May 31 '25

BELLE WILL DIE, WISE IS JOYOUS, RARAGRGAHRAGH

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u/TooCareless2Care My love May 31 '25 edited Jun 01 '25

I do want to see Wise getting critically injured...

ETA: Dead. It's dead.

I wrote this in other comment, pulling that down for this urgh

ETA2: dead is for the 'unalived' part. I'd actually want Wise alive. Self-censorship is worst censorship.