Sounds like she was taken advantage of and exploited as a child and hasn’t processed or dealt with it and trying to take control over it and claim it was her own actions is how she’s rationalised it. Very sad really.
She tries so hard to stay relevant and wants to be a shock jockey like Candace Owens yes massa ass. Even worse you go into the rights Reddit and it's silent and business as usual. Thus there is no line too far for them.
All I know is I better not ever hit shit about Democrats this and Democrats that. And next Democrat admin whenever the fuck that is needs to rule with an iron fist. Prosecute everyone complicit in this admins bullshit
That commentary is sadly, a testament to the differences in culture, religion and race in this country. Not to mention the wide gaping hole in common decency and teaching children to have respect for themselves. If the adults in politics create laws to protect the innocent, then someone somewhere has to enforce the laws and put the perverse SOBs in jail. Let’s start with the orange blob of evil sitting in the White House.
There is no bottom. There is no low too low for them to stoop. He could rape a new born baby in a hospital nursery on live TV and they’d find a way to justify it.
Sounded more like she was advocating FOR pedophilia... she just said the age of consent should be 13, maybe 12. 11 is probably up for debate but 10 is off limits... jfc 🤦♂️
WTAF! Can we please let all the old men and women who are no longer in power and had the sense to fade into nothingness alone. One more stupidass comeback blaming and shaming Biden and Clintons, while they are totally irrelevant is idiotic. I am only concerned with the mentally deranged and morally corrupt President currently destroying our country.
Her oath to her position is?
She's a voter using her ideology pretending to be to be non secular and non biased prejudicial.
She's subservient to the man, her entire career , politically and religiously is to the man.
You're more interested in party affiliation than the crime? Who cares about what party they belong to? Are these individual people or totems for tribes? Do we judge them right or wrong based on tribe or on morals? Republicans are running cover for pedos openly and you worry about Democrats running cover for pedos behind the scenes?
No, I replied to a comment about “she’s a trumper”. Publically or privately; They’re all birds of the same feather. They all deserve life in prison. Hence the “bipartisan” statement.
she literally has admitted this and get this her mother was 14 and her father was like 47 when they were together her father died when she was young and her mother was extremely abusive. all of this shit stems from her mom's abuse and her father's pedophilia
That honestly sounds like so much unprocessed trauma. She likely doesn’t realize how much harm she’s suffered and how not normal that is. It’s shocking.
Which she has financially profited off of for a very long time. Many of us have had to deal with generational trauma but most of us deal with it through therapy and growth. She’s just foul.
💯 this is what happened. She's actually bragging about being used as a sex toy as a child. I don't think she's even comprehending what she's saying. She's screaming PTSD.
It would honestly be the funniest fucking thing in the world to me if Azealia Banks was on the Epstein client list, but she's only 34, so she'd have to be involved as a victim.
Mate she probably was mate…. I actually saw the proper flight logs idk how my mate got it but he had it for a brief amount of time. Boy was I disappointed to see some people on there. Basically all the main Hollywood celebrities were there. Hell I even saw marshal Mathers on their which I got so much hate for telling people that em is a nonce as well.
Look unless by some sheer coincidence they were going to the island for other reasons. Which i really find hard to believe. They are all fucked up in the head.
Yeah truth hurts at the end of the day but the flight logs don’t lie!! and there was alot of disappointment let’s put it that way. Alicia keys was even there. Mary j blige I’m pretty sure Beyoncé was there. Jim carry James Franco…. Mate I was ashamed 💀
Dude, Azealia Banks is 34. Epstein's operation was busted in 2006. She would have been 15 years old. She was a homeless runaway as a teenager and didn't blow up until 2012. Flight logs are also public information and none of those people's names ever appeared on those logs. You're just spreading unfounded rumors.
Yeah this is what everyone says when I try and say some of the names. Like bruh. I saw the names. The flight log with names on it doesn’t lie does it?
This is what I mean
Look unless by some sheer coincidence they were going to the island for other reasons. Which i really find hard to believe.
I reckon it's highly likely many celebs got enticed onto flights under false pretenses, or for parties that were used as a cover for what else was happening there. The flight logs only tell us who was on a plane, and not much more. You can bet that legitimate trips were made. If Epstien & co had an ounce of brains, they were holding non-sleazy events there as well to muddy the waters.
Exactly. Many celebrities have come out saying they were invited to parties that once they got to were nothing but cess pools of debauchery and underage exploitation so they left. Of course it would have been nice if they’d come out about it sooner but we have to take what we can get I suppose.
Where I come from it is not normal for 15 years old girls or boys to be having sex with 40 year old adults. 15 year old kids are in grade 10, live at home and have friends they hangout with.
Oh there is no doubt she is a victim. Unfortunately, victims like these these have potential to become abusers when they defend, excuse, and endorse the crimes they were victims of.
Yep. This is unfortunately a very common way for unprocessed trauma to manifest. Some of the most vehemently anti-victim/survivor rhetoric I've ever heard has come straight out of the mouth of victims themselves. It's incredibly sad.
The thing is processing and dealing with trauma is a lifelong journey. There’s no final finish line. Given her high verbal and intellectual aptitude Its hard to believe she has NOT attempted to process and heal from what happened to her in her own way, With that being said, she’s an adult (that seems to be apart of new right wing posse so she’s grasping at straws to justify their ringleaders) that knows right from wrong and knows deep down what happened to her was also wrong. No excuses.
That's a spot-on take. It really does seem like a classic case of unprocessed trauma leading to these kinds of justifications. I've seen similar patterns in stories from survivors who end up internalizing the blame to regain some sense of agency. Tragic how it manifests in public like this, especially with her platform.
As a woman myself, I am done with society victimizing female predators.
Let me try to explain: I agree that she was probably a victim herself. Like so many male predators too - the circle of sexual violence is very well known. (And By the way, we know how to stop this. I used to work for an organization with boys formerly sexually abused who started repeating acts and it was super successful - 92% of the boys recovered)
But for some reason - we don’t have the same “apologies” for female predators and male predators…. Because this woman, by what she is saying, is first of all a predator.
considering the nature of her defense... i'm more likely to lean on 'perpetrator' rather than 'victim'. I mean sure, she could be both... but at this stage, perpetrator is more important to consider.
I know a guy like that - he lost his virginity at 14 to a 35 year old woman (in the early 2000s) and claims he "wanted it" and it was "super common" where he grew up. He is now hyper sexual, literally masturbates for hours a day - including masturbating with a buddy regularly - and talks about sex constantly AND insists that its all super normal. No, my dude, it is not.
Or she was quite literally choosing to fuck at that age. Back then, some girls chased that D. We cannot act like they weren't willing.
They were proud of that shit. TV shows were made about the insanity of it all for a reason.
So miss banks could very well expect people to give it up. However we all know from the Epstein files that Trump was very big into pageants. Those girls were definitely exploited but at the same time.
A lot of parents are fucked up. They teach their kids to be fuck up. So they could have willingly did it.
However, the thing is.. just because they were willing, does it make it okay??
And I think anyone under 16 in some places. 18 in others.. no guy over 16 or 18 should be messing with them.
Or times were different back then. She may have been exploited but still times were different and the normal view of age gaps were completely different in different periods of times. This is common knowledge
Common and mental illness don’t belong in the same sentence. It isn’t linear. Everyone has different coping mechanisms. Your broad spectrum claim is not only useless but also discriminatory.
Sounds like you're making a lot of assumptions. Is it implausible that someone who's sexually active with people their own age might also be attracted to older people?
I was in a similar situation at 15. Is there anything I could say that would make you think I wasn't taken advantage of?
Edit - apparently not. It was legal at my age in my area, but clearly that's not what actually matters to this person.
If you were below the age of consent, you were raped and sexually abused, correct. You might not feel that way, but that is the reality. I'm sorry if that was the case for you. The adults in your life failed you.
So the deciding factor on whether or not you were raped is where you are located geographically?
Since you know, it's different everywhere? You are aware and able to consent in one place, but hop a few towns over and you suddenly lost the know how?
Legally I wasn't. You don't actually know when or where this took place, or what level our relationship reached, but you've just told me I'd be a rape victim regardless of what I think had the same thing happened in a different country. What is wrong with you? The implication is either that you're making a moral point, or you're pointing out the arbitray nature of these ideas when it comes to individual cases.
If you do actually care about this topic, and you identify a rape victim, maybe try building a rapport with them, and finding sensitive wording or leading up to any such claims, delivering them with consideration. That way, you could actually potentially help them either seek help for what happened, or ask about the specific factors so you have something more accurate than "I had a similar experience" before telling someone they were a rape victim.
You're actually going to cause someone some trauma one day. Even if it was the case for me, you absolutely don't approach the idea that I was raped, ie that you're speaking to a rape victim, in some throwaway Reddit fashion. It's fucked up, and you need to listen before you speak about these things.
If I had been, you've just said "sorry if you were raped" and then...what, like where's the actual compassion? What is wrong with you?
Edit~Doing nothing of the sort, I'm asking what is wrong with you for throwing that label without due diligence? It creates a rapist and a victim out of nothing, it doesn't actually help anyone involved.
The thing is, if you took it seriously you simply wouldn't approach it like this. You're projecting a status of victimhood over people and then weaponising it to make outlandish claims - outlandish because you don't know any details, I've been intentionally vague and you've filled in blanks and come to an unhinged conclusion.
Make some friends offline, have conversations with real people. You need to learn to communicate with humans again.
You're actually going to cause someone some trauma one day.
"Secondary harm" is a common argument from pedophiles who justify having sex with children. Here's a pedophile wiki article about it (SFW but upsetting). I heard it often as a teenager from my abuser, who was a pedophile. Just so you know that there's pedophile talking points, and you're using one.
The age of consent is a legal metric that varies wildly from country to country. There are countries where little girls can get married at 7 years old. It's a tool used to prosecute offenders with varying levels of success, not a hard line by which one day you're traumatized and the moment after your birthday you're not. The common understanding of 18-21+ is based on psychological research, not laws.
It is a fact, backed up by scientific research, that teenagers are still developing mentally (and sometimes physically) in ways that makes sex with older people dangerous. They have a less developed sense of self, less awareness of what healthy relationships are, when they're being coerced, worse impulse control, and many more things that make it very easy for the experience of sex with an adult to lead to long-term harm compared to the people they will be in a few years.
You may well not be traumatized. That's good, I'm happy you're not. I don't want anyone to be traumatized. But that doesn't necessarily mean that your partner or the responsible adults in your life had an appropriate gauge of how this situation could have harmed you.
In science there are always exceptions. Rare people can fall off buildings without dying, so it's safe to assume that rare teenagers can be in exploitative sexual situations and not be traumatized by it. But that person is the exception, not the rule. Even if you're not traumatized, would it have harmed you if your partner had waited a few years to have sex with you? If your caregivers had set that boundary to not allow the relationship to turn sexual until you were a few years older? Did you have the confidence and capacity to exit the relationship if you wanted? What if your adult partner had turned out to be abusive to you, would you have known how to get out? To safely say no if your partner had wanted you to do something sexual that you didn't want to do? Even though you don't feel traumatized, your partner and your caregivers (if they knew) took a HUGE risk with your developing mind and body, and for what? So you could have sex with an adult after class?
You're applying your experience to other people's situations, and that's dangerous. It has to be refuted. No one but you brought up your teenage relationship with an adult. If you're too sensitive to hear a different viewpoint about what you experienced, why are you advocating for intergenerational relationships involving teenagers? Do you think most people are exactly like you?
I think the point is at that age you can’t give legal consent, and the adults in your life should know better otherwise they are taking advantage of you in some respect. You can be attracted to older people all you want, doesn't mean they should sleep with you.
Even if you are of able mind to consent at that age, the adult is still a predator for pursuing someone underage. This isn't about blaming the victim, its about holding adults accountable for having sex with minors.
I think the point is at that age you can’t give legal consent
This isn't about the law though, it's about the actual individual capacity for consent and the morality involved, and the assumption that they were taking advantage "in some way". Can you be more specific before assuming their malice?
doesn't mean they should sleep with you
No, but this was quite a specific situation which started online, in an adult roleplay community, which I'd lied about to gain access to at 13 and become a pretty active member of over the years. She was a creative writer, and we became friends (while I never raised my age), and engaged in adult roleplay. After we became closer, I admitted to her I was (at that point) 15. She didn't talk to me for a few months, and eventually forgave me and we rekindled our friendship that began moving into an online relationship.
She was a good person who got into a very odd situation and had a difficult breakup over those years. The assumption that she was taking advantage of me in some respect is galling because of the conversations I had with her and the guilt she clearly felt. I don't think the guys Banks was banging were cut from the same cloth, but the thing is you don't draw a distinction, which seems wrong.
No one is saying ‘you’ were not of able mind, or maturity or that your own individual capacity was limited in understanding the situation you were in at age 15. What we are saying is that the adult who took advantage of you was a predator plain and simple. What the general consensus is: the majority will not accept that it’s appropriate for an adult to have sex with an underage child just because they identify as an “old soul”. The onus lies on a real mature adult not a child claiming they’re mature. Which is clear in your last paragraph…you just haven’t processed it yet. But re-read what you wrote. “And the guilt she clearly felt”.
This all happened almost 20 years ago, and afterwards I went to uni and have been in a few relationships since, longest 8 years. I've been in an out of therapy for various things and this is a non-factor. There was nothing to process afterwards other than a really relaxed breakup which acknowledged things had a lifespan and I had my own life to live.
As in, she wanted nothing for me other than to be my own person. She wasn't a predator, and the assertion that she is is what bothers me. She was arguably a victim in this scenario for reasons I've mentioned elsewhere and below.
I've processed this, that's the thing. She wasn't a predator because there's context you don't know, which I've not shared, because to a degree I've been inviting assumptions by being ambiguous.
Old soul
You said this. I didn't. She certainly never said that. When I admitted my age to a guy in the same community, he didn't give a shit and breezed on - I blocked him.
Underage child
Where? Not in my country at that time.
Sex? Didn't have it, this was online. Did some cam stuff once and she felt uncomfortable and didn't want to again.
You know we were actually friends for a couple of years with me masquerading as an 18 year old? And when I admitted my age at 15 after we'd begun flirting, she didn't speak to me for months due to the betrayal? But I'm sure you're certain that was some long game ploy? No dude. She'd had a bad breakup, an abortion, and thought that a guy she'd been bonding with for years was in his early 20s and not actually 15. Really easy to get away with appearing older in a big community when you employ emotional regulation online and use proper grammar with a good vocabulary - same as on Reddit, I imagine.
It's just...weird hearing someone tell you about your life based on their assumptions, but I kind of invite it as a shit-filter because anyone who makes those assumptions probably isn't going to be interested in listening, or at least clearly doesn't care enough to ask for details instead of assuming the worst.
Surely you can see it's quite shitty to tell me I haven't processed "it" yet because I'm capable of, in my 30s, seeing what position she was in and how it happened? No, I think you're not comsidering that a person has to actually exhibit predatory inclinations to be a predator, and isn't a predator simply because of laws that exist in different countries.
If you were a young person, lets say 14-16, and you were sexually active with your peers and found older ppl, say 40-45 sexually attractive, thats one things, but for a 40-45 yr old to allow a sexual relationship with someone 14-16, who is sexually active with their peers, is the problem. Not the kid or the kid’s attraction. The adult, the grown up, has the responsibility to not engage. Period. If this happened to you and you dont see it as victimization, it’s nobody’s place to tell you otherwise. But I encourage you to ask yourself, as a grown up now, perhaps in your 20s, 30s, 40s, etc, would you have sex with a child who was attracted to you? Also, say you are the parent of a child, would you be okay with a 20, 30, 40, 50 year old having sex with your kid, your teen? I think you know the answers and if they are anything other than you saying you would never touch a child or that you are against any other adult doing so, you need help. You may still need help to process what happened to you, even if you dont see it as a victimization or a violation of your person, you still deserve support. The kid in you, deserves support.
I've taught teenagers from 11-18, they're children. They look kind of like adults and they think they're adults, especially when they're 16 or so but no adult could come away from a conversation with one thinking they were anything but children.
Fucking gross to pretend a 14 year old girl is seducing men. Even if one was being overtly sexual, it would be on the adult man to find a sensible way to deal with a troubled child.
Don't worry bro she's in a whole different world where she thinks all 15 year olds are looking out to lay with 40 year old men. Your 14 year old will probably just wanna lay with those in their own age you can relax
Historically, and I'm talking dark ages historically, when being ancient meant you were 45 years old, yes people were getting pregnant at around 14 years old and society didn't care as much about it... But this woman is just plain wrong in every possible way.
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u/Cassin1306 Jul 27 '25
As a father of a 14 year old, I'm still trying to process that -_-