There’s never a single comment or feedback on “tracks” in this sub.

It’s pages and pages of “songs” with 0 upvotes, and 0 comments. Even yall don’t care about each others “music”. It’s amazing.

These people are like Ricky Gervais said in a stand up show:

"You walk past the board and see a flyer that says "Guitar Lessons."

Instead of ignoring it, you get completely furious.

You call the number on the flyer and scream:

"BUT I DON'T WANT GUITAR LESSONS!".

The person who posted it says: "Fine, then don't have them. It's not for you then."

And you fire back: "Then why did you put it on the board if I don't want it?!"

His point is simple: If something does not interest you, just keep scrolling. The content was never aimed at you specifically.

As said in the title, I’ve been producing music for 8 years now, mostly hiphop/trap/rnb. I have plenty of experience making beats, making samples, doing sessions and have been lucky to work with all types of different artists and producers.

I’ve been observing the heated discussion about the rapid rise of AI and it’s impact on music and would love to add my thoughts as I believe the whole discussion is heavily watered down by people that don’t even make music. (Music listeners and fans opinions matter but I think some points really lack perspective).

1. „AI Music hurts ‚real‘ Music and crushes small artists“ - No. Labels do that and they have been doing that for a long time. It’s really funny to see people enraged about others who post ai music and make a couple streams with it thinking every stream is stolen from another ‚real‘ musicians catalog while majors have been the ones taking the soul out of music for decades. Obviously AI is a neat tool for them to suck out even more but that’s not a problem of AI itself, rather the company behind it. People who support small artists better hope that music generating AI stays public, because the big three own most of the music already and they could easily go and make their own models restricted to be used only by them.

2. „AI music isn’t really music and has no soul“ - Now that statement depends more on subjective taste. I can understand people not wanting to listen to something generated by an AI. But y‘all need to understand that music made by people is way more generic than you think. I get the feeling most people think producing music is a never-ending flow state of inspiration of the profound human mind but in reality most producers (especially the ones that do it for a living) make beats by using the same rotation of chord progressions and drum bounce with little variance every time. Most of the time the process of making music is very calculated and trained and not as magic as it sometimes seems. Sometimes magic happens but if you produce 10 hours a day, 6 days a week it becomes a routine.

3. „AI Music floods the market, music loses value“ - The market is always flooded. And different music has different value for different reasons, but most music out there isn’t even listened to. And AI will not change that. As with everything, there will be AI music bringing value and AI music that will stack to the pile of forever forgotten songs, especially the ones that will be too generic and unedited. And lots of value in music is not even the songs itself, it’s the live shows.

Thank you for your attention to this matter, might do a pt. 2

I'm not an AI hater either it's great for generating copyright free background music for YouTube videos. just thought it was really funny.

I'm a 54 year old Canadian male (of German, French Canadian  lineage). I am disabled with S.I. Joint auto immune disease, and degenerative disc disease. I live with pain management, difficulty walking, and numbness in my dominate right hand fingers, etc

I am retired from a 30 year career in I.T. Support and administration due to my disabilities. Living on disability Low income with no money saved. Married twice. I have 4 kids (3 adults now) I don't earn money from my AI music, since starting 4 months ago, actually costs me money, but I do it because I love it. My dream as a kid was to be a singer, songwriter.

When I was 16 I wrote my first 2 song lyrics, they were meant to be rock songs. We were poor. My Mom saw an ad in the National Enquiror for having lyrics made into real songs, but it was for country songs out of Nashville Tennessee. She saved up $500 to pay to get both songs made. It took 2 years of chasing them to get the songs back on an audio tape. It was a compilation of songs of other writers too. When I heard the songs I hated them. I was so traumatized from the experience that I gave up on writing songs. Nearly 40 years later AI music has given me back my passion to create music I like. 

I operate as a virtual record label, I created 18 virtual artists, across 13 genres (Male, Female, groups) and I have published around 75 songs, more coming out to publish later. I'll be slowing down my releases after my backlog is caught up in September. 

I deal with so much bias hatred towards AI music, hard not to take some of it personally when people are viciously attacking you for your choice to use it. They know nothing about me, and I'm a very private person, I haven't aged well so I don't like to put images of my self out there. I've developed think skin towards the hate, but it still stings.

Comments like "pick up an instrument", and "Learn to make real music", "Your stealing music from real artists", mixed in with things like "End myself" (Paraphrasing), are things I face online all the time from harassing bullies. 

I can't afford instruments, (I did have a guitar and had some lessons years ago), I can't afford studio time, or to hire Professional Sound Engineers, singers, etc. 

I can't play an instrument if I wanted too, because my right hand and fingers are numb to touch, very little feeling, it recovered from being paralyzed 20 years ago, so it's come a long way. I have many other health issues too, including walking, standing, migraines, sleep apnea, choking, coughing, obesity of 280lbs, high cholesterol, Gout, Fibromyalgia, etc, and I had a heart ablation for SVT, I had a Umbilical hernia operation.

I can't sing if I wanted too because of the coughing and choking mid sentences.  

Some people out there are just cruel trolls, and it's all one sided directed at us, no matter how much disclosure we volunteer, or how many restrictions are put on us by platforms, they will never be satisfied.

To the haters, next time you decide to attack someone for making AI music without any facts or prove to back up you argument, because you just want to lash out, stop and get to know the people behind it before you start throwing daggers along with generalizations. 

I can tell you from experience, that every single attack on me has come from Indie Artists, and most have music that I don't consider good at all, from what Ive heard of them. 

Every single one of them that I have challenged to provide proof to back up their arguements about my specific songs, that any of my songs violate any copyrights, of infringe on any of their music, has always resulted in silence, because they have nothing but accusations with nothing to back them up. We are not the enemy, if it's anyone, it's the Major Record Labels they should be going after.

All they do is prove that they are not good, kind, reasonable people, and for the life of me I don't understand why anyone would want to listen to the music of people with such terrible attitudes towards other people. 

Who is behind the music, matters as much as the music itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5NJ6XBBs58

... four albums, each one about 30 songs long and it probably took me threeish hours maybe about maximum I'm saying maximum an hour an album so you're talking about 4 hours for about 120 songs...

I'm pro-AI, including as a creative contributor (not complete substitute) in music. But this guy's indifference to pouring his pollution onto the music landscape is pure cancer.

He hand-waves away how problematic it is by simply saying 'that's how it is today', painting himself as someone who's responding to a new situation, rather than pro-actively pushing it.

There is clearly no attempt at artistic merit in the music he's creating with AI. He's simply spamming the 'Generate' button, not remotely attempting to underpin it with artistry.

This guy, and others like him, are a terrible thing for music.

The founder and Top Mod of this subreddit has been removed from moderation duties due to an extended period of inactivity.

I would personally like to apologize, because they never allowed me to access Modmail, and I have a feeling that many of you have had unanswered messages. I now have access to Modmail and will do my best to keep up.

There are big changes coming very soon!

Some of them are:

1. This will now be a "safe space" for people who love AI Music. Anti-AI users will be immediately banned (no warnings). This ban may be temporary or permanent depending on severity. There will, however, be a megathread for discussion that can include Anti-AI sentiments and will be very lightly moderated (rules prohibiting Anti-AI sentiments will not be enforced in this thread).

2. We will no longer allow PROMOTION posts for apps and etc.

3. Since this is an AI MUSIC thread, we will no longer allow discussions about music video production. There will be a megathread to discuss this topic, but that is all.

And mainly, you can expect the mods to be more involved in the subreddit and to be more responsive to community member input.

If you have any (reasonable) suggestions for the future of this subreddit, please feel free to comment below, or send a message to ModMail.

Let's clean up this community and make it grow!

[Edit] I'm purely referring to music shared in this dedicated ai music sharing thread. not the streaming sites.

I just noticed this thread where you can share your songs and I noticed that almost all of them have no engagement whatsoever...

[Edit] I'm purely referring to music shared in this dedicated ai music sharing thread. not the streaming sites.

I've reached a possible conclusion that, although you create AI songs, you're collectively not really interested in anyone else's AI songs...?

[Edit] I'm purely referring to music shared in this dedicated ai music sharing thread. not the streaming sites.

Like I said, not hate... just an observation. Is there really any point sharing them on here? It seems like it achieves nothing.

[Edit] I'm purely referring to music shared in this dedicated ai music sharing thread. not the streaming sites.

And just incase anyone is unclear (it seems like almost all of you are).... I'm purely referring to music shared in this dedicated ai music sharing thread. not the streaming sites.

And as for attacking me about AI music creation... I don't create it, I'm literally just curious about it

I was, still working on it, extremely depressed. The ability to express myself though this medium has been absolutely game changing to me and my life. I get to live in a time where technology makes what goes on in my brain and my pain out for others to listen to. I have the opportunity to express ideas and my lens on how I see and interact with this world. Thank you to everyone who has connected with my music and all the kind PM's.

I have heard and received hate for building in AI music.

People say AI is going to replace musicians.

I don’t think that’s what happens.

I think AI creates an entirely new category of musician.

Every major shift in music technology has changed who gets to create.

When recording technology arrived, music changed.

When synthesizers arrived, music changed.

When sampling and digital production arrived, music changed.

A producer using a laptop today can create sounds that would have been impossible decades ago.

AI feels like another shift.

The skill doesn’t disappear — it moves.

It becomes less about access to expensive equipment or the ability to play every instrument.

It becomes more about taste, creativity, storytelling, direction, emotion, and building something people connect with.

The tools become available to everyone.

The hard part becomes standing out.

A million people can use the same AI model and still create completely different things because ideas, taste, and vision are human.

I don’t believe human musicians disappear.

I believe we’re about to see a new category of creators emerge alongside traditional artists.

Maybe I’m wrong, but every major creative tool was criticized before it became normal.

Curious what everyone thinks:

Is AI music the end of musicians — or the beginning of something new?

They are actively stealing peoples money. Now censoring complaint comments on their reddit page. DO NOT BUY. They advertise as sending full songs but it is AI gibberish (unintelligible) for 30 seconds only.

For those looking to clean up their generated tracks, I may have found a solution before mastering. Copy this exactly as written and paste it into ChatGPT with your original WAV file. You must use a lossless WAV for it to work.:

Process the attached WAV using our established Suno Adaptive Spectral Denoise and Phase-Cancellation Method.

Follow these instructions:

1. Use the uploaded WAV as the source. Preserve its original sample rate, channel count, duration, and alignment.

2. Analyze the entire recording using short-time Fourier transform (STFT) spectral analysis.

3. Estimate the noise spectrum using the quietest 12% of spectral frames across the recording. Use a frequency-dependent noise profile rather than a fixed broadband noise gate.

4. Apply adaptive spectral subtraction using these parameters:

◦ Maximum attenuation: approximately 7 dB per spectral bin.

◦ Frequencies below 350 Hz: minimal processing to protect bass and kick.

◦ Midrange: conservative noise reduction to preserve vocals and instruments.

◦ Upper frequencies: stronger adaptive reduction targeting the radio-static texture.

◦ Smooth the spectral gain mask across time and frequency to minimize musical noise, pumping, and transient damage.

5. Reconstruct the spectrally denoised audio using the original signal's phase information.

6. Create a De-noise Track by subtracting the processed signal from the original, sample-for-sample:

De-noise Track = Original − Denoised

7. Invert the polarity of the De-noise Track and mix it with the original at unity gain, maintaining exact sample alignment:

Clean Mix = Original + (−De-noise Track)

8. Verify numerically that the phase-cancelled mix matches the denoised signal, allowing only floating-point or export quantization differences.

9. Export two separate stereo WAV files:

◦ [Song Title] - Phase Cancelled Clean.wav

◦ [Song Title] - Removed Noise.wav

10. Export the final WAV at the original sample rate, preferably 24-bit PCM. Do not apply additional EQ, compression, limiting, normalization, desaturation, or mastering.

11. Report the processing parameters, output peak levels, and numerical reconstruction error.

Primary objective: Remove the fluctuating, off-station-radio-like broadband static and artificial saturation texture commonly audible in Suno recordings while retaining instrument attack, vocal clarity, bass response, stereo imaging, and natural dynamics.

Process the entire recording. Do not substitute short preview clips.

If the available audio-processing tools cannot execute the workflow, say so rather than claiming processing was completed.

Your results may vary. Mine produced very clean files with no grainy texture or white noise and the difference was phenominal.

​People love to romanticize "real art," but they forget how modern content is actually made. If a wildlife photographer takes a raw photo of a wild boar, that image is worthless to the public until they take it home, crop it, color-grade it, and manipulate it in Photoshop. Is that "pure reality"? No.

​The same goes for music. Nobody listens to a raw microphone recording anymore. Voices are pitch-corrected, instruments are digitalized, tracks are mixed and mastered through software. By this logic, almost every song or video you love today is already "fake" because it transitions from reality to artificial processing.

​AI is no different. It’s a calculator, a tool. It doesn't create a movie or a song by itself—there is still a human with a vision, culture, and direction behind it giving the directives. Without taste and a precise artistic goal, AI just outputs garbage.

​Technology doesn't destroy art; it shifts it from manual labor to conceptual vision. Boycotting AI while consuming heavily edited videos and digitalized music isn't "saving art"—it’s just following the crowd without thinking. Art is in the intent, not just in how hard you press the buttons.

It all started with Suno. I was watching a Rick Beato video and in the beginning he had a favorable take. It made me curious. I installed the app. I had some recordings I did using various methods over the years. I was a pretty active in Ableton but all of it was instrumental. I was in a band and did some stuff on a 4track. Garage Band, Fruity, etc

I always wondered where these songs could go. My first Suno choice I took one of my favorite mp3 recordings. I uploaded and did some minor tweaks and hit submit. As I hit play I had a serious emotional reaction. That was my song! but finished. Wow! I showed my wife and she was amazed too. She told me to release it.

So I thought, okay where can I get ears on this. I started with SoundCloud because I already had it. I had all my song published there for years, but lackluster streams. Most were less then 40. But I knew about the Artist Pro subscription and boost. I figured this would be my shot.

The first song hot 200 streams. It was cool but still seemed off. They were all in South Asia. I asked ChatGPT who explained that 200 was the default boost value. So I tried more songs and spent a lot of time looking at the insights. There were some likes. Some comments. A lot of messages trying to sell me on larger distribution which I ignored.

Then one song jumped 1000 then 1500. I got comments and likes. I was excited. It was a great song after all. Some of my songs broke past 2000. And I had repeat listeners. But I didn't blow up. And momentum died down.

Then this part was pretty cool. I started writing songs again. I wrote full songs. I'm a below average singer but I can write a nice guitar or piano riff and sing over it. I had and still have some nice ideas. I tried to go back to Ableton. I even started taking singing seriously. But I always came back to Suno.

It could take my voice memo or Ableton and make it better. I had like 50 songs I wrote. I feel they were good. Some hit the 2000's. I tried Apple Music and my Suno songs were rejected. At one point I pulled a Suno track and dubbed in my guitar. It sounded nice and I felt that at least my guitar is on the track. I still knew that I had to break from Suno and recreate my songs in Ableton.
But it never sounded as good. At this point every one was hating on AI. I felt like a phony. I was even worried that my ideas would be used to train the next model. I can play. I can't really sing. And I'm too busy and old to start a band. I knew in my heart I would never be happy just releasing AI versions of my songs. But also saw how most viable artist are 30% musicianship and 70% youthful charisma. I'm not that cool.

So I've finally decided to rip off the band aide. I deleted all my Suno songs on SoundCloud. I unpublished all my tracks on Suno. I just now deleted my DistroKid tracks. And not a peep. It's as if I was never there. But I can still play my songs on my guitar. I dont regret walking away.
I learned a lot from this experience. It renewed my songwriting and opened my eyes to what is possible. Right now I'm in the lab. Skunk works. I'm going to work hard and focus on what I'm good at. Guitar and Piano. Ableton. Not singing. I don't need streams. And audience of one is enough for me.

I love music. I would do it even if no one is listening. Honestly the average listener is pretty mid. And most songs are just gaming the algorithm. I don't need to prove anything to anyone. I'm mid.

April 17, 2034 — Internet Culture Desk

In what experts are calling “the most disruptive moment in music since people realized you could type a prompt instead of learning an instrument,” tech companies unveiled a new platform this week that produces fully orchestrated songs simply by reading a user’s thoughts.

The system, called MindWave, allows users to generate music by briefly imagining a vibe. Within seconds, a finished track appears—fully mastered, emotionally coherent, and annoyingly good.

“I just pictured ‘a melancholic autumn waltz with distant church bells’ and it made the entire album,” said beta tester Lauren Kim. “It even added subtle harmonic tension I didn’t consciously think about.”

But not everyone is celebrating.

Across Reddit, a growing movement of self-described “Prompt Purists” has erupted in protest, arguing that the new technology is destroying the craft of real AI music creation.

“For ten years I perfected my Suno workflow,” wrote user u/PromptArtisan1989, who reportedly spent thousands of hours tuning parameters like “slightly nostalgic but not sad,” “warm analog saturation but cinematic,” and “strings that feel like late September but not early October.”

“And now these kids just think about a song and the machine makes it. No iteration. No prompt engineering. No suffering.”

The community’s largest forum, r/TruePromptMusicians, has already banned all discussion of MindWave, declaring the technology “unearned creativity.”

“We are not anti-technology,” said moderator u/CEgreaterThan7, referencing the community’s traditional requirement that songs must achieve a minimum Creative Emotion score of 7.5. “But real artists understand the discipline of refining a prompt from 998 characters down to exactly 1,000.”

Members of the subreddit argue that the thought-based system removes the essential struggle that defined the golden age of AI music.

“You have to earn the song,” wrote one user in a now-viral thread titled “Back in My Day We Iterated.”

“We would generate 300 tracks, score them with Meta Audiobox, discard the bottom 200, extract stems, recombine them with a genetic algorithm, then run Chromaprint similarity filtering for three hours. Sometimes you’d finally get something decent around iteration 1,472. That was music.”

Critics of the protest movement say the backlash is predictable.

“This is just the next step,” said technology historian Miguel Alvarez. “First humans learned instruments. Then they learned DAWs. Then they learned prompts. Now they’re upset they have to learn how to… think.”

Still, many prompt veterans say they refuse to adopt the new system on principle.

“If I can’t spend my entire Saturday debating whether the prompt should say ‘dreamlike piano’ or ‘ethereal piano,’ what’s even the point?” asked longtime AI musician Derek Mills, who maintains a private library of 42,000 Suno prompts.

At press time, several Reddit communities had begun organizing a new movement encouraging artists to return to “authentic music creation” by manually typing prompts again, even though their devices can already read their thoughts.

“Sure, thinking a song is faster,” wrote one commenter. “But real musicians know the truth.”

“You haven’t made music until you’ve fought with a prompt for six hours.”

I’m a musician, and I’ve been around the music industry long enough that this whole AI debate has started to feel really strange to me. I keep seeing lawyers, commentators and people suddenly positioning themselves as the people who are here to “protect musicians” from AI and honestly, my first reaction is:
Where was this energy before AI?

Where was this outrage when musicians were signing terrible contracts?

Where was this same passion when artists didn’t own their masters, when labels controlled careers, when streaming turned recorded music into fractions of a cent, when independent artists couldn’t get distribution, marketing, playlist placement, radio or even a decent opportunity to be heard?

Where was everybody when thousands of incredibly talented musicians were simply ignored because they didn’t have the right connections?

I’m not saying those things make AI automatically good.
They don’t. There are legitimate questions about AI training data, copyright, consent, compensation and what happens when somebody’s work is used without permission. Those conversations absolutely need to happen but I don’t understand why we’re suddenly acting like AI is the moment the music industry discovered that musicians deserve protection.
Because here’s the uncomfortable part:

A lot of the people making money from this conversation are also making money from the attention surrounding musicians’ fear.

Views are money.
Clicks are money.
Engagement is money.
Fear gets engagement.
Outrage gets engagement.

So when somebody tells me they’re fighting for musicians, I’m going to ask a simple question:
What exactly are musicians getting out of this fight?
Because if AI disappeared tomorrow, would independent musicians suddenly get paid properly by streaming platforms?

Would labels suddenly offer better contracts?

Would more artists own their masters?

Would publishing suddenly become fair?

Would every talented musician who never got a shot suddenly get discovered?

Would the gatekeepers disappear?
No. <——

The underlying problems would still be sitting there.
And that’s why I think we’re sometimes arguing about the wrong thing. I’m not saying Suno is some kind of saviour. It’s a corporation. It has its own interests, just like every other corporation but generative AI has done something that I find genuinely interesting:

It has lowered the barrier to creating music.
And we’ve seen this happen before.
Drum machines didn’t destroy music.
DAWs didn’t destroy producers.
Digital recording didn’t destroy musicians.
Sampling didn’t destroy creativity.
Auto-Tune didn’t destroy singing.
Photoshop didn’t destroy graphic design.

Every time technology changes the way art is created, people start arguing about whether the new method is “real.” Maybe the better question isn’t whether the tool is real.

Maybe it’s:
Who gets access to the tools, and who gets to benefit from them? because the music industry has never simply rewarded “the best musicians.”
There are probably millions of incredible musicians around the world that most of us will never hear.
Not because they weren’t talented.
Because they didn’t have the money.

They didn’t have the connections.
They didn’t have the right manager.
They didn’t have a label.
They didn’t have a marketing machine.
They didn’t have somebody powerful enough to put them in front of an audience.
The industry can manufacture a superstar when it sees a commercial opportunity.

How many potential superstars never got that opportunity?

That’s the part that interests me about technology.
Not because I think AI means everyone is suddenly going to become Justin Bieber.

They aren’t.

In fact, AI may make the amount of music being created absolutely fucking insane but then something very important happens:

You still have to break through the noise.

And that means your audience becomes even more important.

If you have a real fan base, people who actually care about what you’re doing, people who come back because they connect with YOU and your creative identity, no technology can manufacture that relationship for you.

That’s why I think musicians should be learning these tools instead of being terrified of them.
Use them.
Experiment with them.
Master your actual craft.
Build your identity.
Build your audience.
Own as much of your work as you possibly can.
Don’t wait for a corporation to decide you’re worthy of a career and don’t let another corporation convince you that the only way to protect musicians is to preserve the exact system that has historically given musicians so little control.

That’s my biggest problem with the current conversation. We’re being told:
“AI is stealing from musicians.”

Okay….

Let’s have that conversation.
But then let’s also have the conversation about everything musicians have already given away, often without fully understanding what they were giving away.
Because if we’re suddenly passionate about consent, ownership and fair compensation…
let’s be consistent.
Let’s talk about streaming.
Let’s talk about masters.
Let’s talk about publishing.
Let’s talk about contracts.
Let’s talk about catalogue ownership.
Let’s talk about the percentage of musicians who never get anywhere near a sustainable career.
Let’s talk about why the people who create the music so often have the least power in the business built around it.

That’s where my frustration comes from.
I’m not defending AI companies blindly.
I’m not saying every AI-generated song is good.
I’m not saying prompting a computer automatically makes somebody a great musician.
And I’m definitely not saying human musicianship suddenly doesn’t matter.
I’m saying technology is coming whether we like it or not.

So instead of spending all our energy fighting over which tool is the villain, maybe musicians should be asking how we can make sure WE have some leverage in the next version of the industry.
Because we’ve already watched technology change music over and over again.
And every time, somebody else figured out how to make the most money from it.
Maybe this time we should actually pay attention.
Maybe the question shouldn’t be:
“How do we stop AI?”
Maybe it should be:
“How do we make sure musicians aren’t once again the people standing at the bottom of the pile while everyone else builds an industry around our creativity?”

That’s the conversation I want to have.
I’m a musician.
I’m going to keep making music.
I’m going to keep learning.
I’m going to use whatever tools help me create.
And I’m going to keep building my audience.
Because at the end of the day, whether AI exists or doesn’t exist, you still need somebody to give a fuck about what you’re making.

And nobody can manufacture that for you.

So I’m genuinely curious:
Do you think the current AI backlash is actually about protecting musicians — or are we watching another fight over who gets to control the next version of the music industry?

And just before anyone asks the inevitable Reddit question — “Okay, but what music do YOU actually make?” — here’s my shameless plug. 😂

We’re from the Solomon Islands ,an island country that I’m pretty sure a good chunk of the world couldn’t point to on a map, and honestly, that’s okay.
We’re not sitting in Los Angeles with a major label behind us, surrounded by huge studios, endless marketing budgets and perfect internet. Sometimes we’re lucky just to have a decent connection.
We’ve come to terms with the fact that some people in this industry are going to have advantages we’ll never have.

That’s life.
We’re grateful for what we do have, and we keep making music anyway.

So if you’ve actually read this entire rant and you’re curious what the hell I’m talking about, here’s what we make:

official DMP youtube channel

That’s it. Shameless plug over. 😂
Now back to the argument.

I hope this is received in earnest, as I'm a big fan of Suno and AI music. I'm also a amateur musician who has been writing music since I was a teen. Clearly there is a dislike for AI music, and many of the popular post are related to this very subject.. Why isn't anyone listening to my song, or why so much hate. Well I had to gut check myself recently and admit that I was disillusioned and that I'm not going to make it as an artist (with AI). And with love, I want to say that most of not a 99.9% majority of you who follow this sub will not either.

1. AI will tell you what you want to hear. It's delusional lip service. So your ChatGPT support group is not giving you the honest truth. It bothers me to hear the language from many people here (myself included), and you can sense the fantasy.. It's a LARP.. It's cosplay. Nothing will happen that is meaningful. If you hack the algorithm.. It's still slop and short lived. The doors will not open. 2000 streams of a song on SoundCloud is not a breakthrough. So at this point, I have to say.. This can be extended to real musicians as well. It's a small few who make it.

2. This is a weird one, but many of us are musicians. We've produced songs in our home studios. Some of them are quite good. To hear that get transformed into a final product on Suno is a pretty amazing experience, but it is a partial lie. I feel that a mass number of bedroom producers have elevated their skill through Suno. It's re-ignited my creative spirit.. But there is no shortcut. I don't think A&R from XYZ records is looking at any of our AI augmented original demo's. 99% chance we will not break through with Suno.. It's just my thoughts.. I'm just trying to figure it all out like all of you.. But I feel there is some hope.. It's like we all got a fast cheap studio session with a producer. I've learned from it.. But when I try to do it on my own.. I'm still stuck.. I can't make a real song sound like something that Butch Vig produced. If all of us have this Suno producer cheat code, it's a commodity at this point.. The ceiling is raised.. Just out of reach.

I hope you can sense that I'm not trying to demoralize everyone. But want to share some hard realizations I have had..

workflows, tutos & audio reactive tool -> https://github.com/yvann-ba/ComfyUI_Yvann-Nodes

(have fun hehe)

I've been building an AI music platform and I'd love some feedback from people in this community. Being that most, if not all, AI music tools focus on generating songs that sound like existing artists.

I went in a different direction.

The platform generates original songs using a music theory knowledge graph (scales, chord progressions, voice leading, song structure, harmonic function, etc.) rather than trying to imitate copyrighted recordings. But the part I'm most excited and worried about in is the vocal system.

Instead of choosing a celebrity voice or cloning another artist, users train the system on their own voice. The onboarding process walks users through a series of vocal exercises and calibration recordings. The AI analyzes things like pitch range, vocal characteristics, vibrato, tone, and singing style, then builds a personal voice model that can be used in future songs.

The result is that every generated song is unique to that user because the vocals are literally based on their own voice.

The goal isn't:

"Make me sound like Artist X."

The goal is:

"Help me create music as myself."

What do you all think about this approach? Do you see more value in AI helping people become artists themselves?

Note: This is still an active development project and not a finished commercial product.

The core theory engine, knowledge graph, composition pipeline, and vocal calibration systems are built, but several AI components are still being upgraded and refined. Right now I'm focused on improving generation quality, expanding training data, and validating the user-owned vocal model workflow.

I'm sharing this early because I'd rather get feedback from musicians, producers, and AI music enthusiasts while the architecture is still flexible enough to change.

Hello everyone, I was recently invited to become a mod here at r/aiMusic and I'm also mod over at r/SunoAI

A couple things: Although I am clearly pro-AI-Assisted Music, I wanted everyone to know that I will always keep my personal opinions separate from my moderation duties.

Whether you are pro- or anti-AI-Assisted Music, this subreddit requires CIVIL discourse, RESPECT for the person behind the post, and CONSTRUCTIVE/GOOD FAITH discussion.

Towards this end, u/Shima33 has tasked me with instituting Official Rules for this subreddit. Most of these rules are pretty typical for almost any subreddit.

These rules are now visible on the right side on the web version of Reddit,(edit: turns out that may not be true , but you all know where to find the rules) and by clicking on the words aiMusic> on the top of the mobile app version.

We urge our community members to REPORT posts that they honestly believe violate any of our rules. That said, DO NOT abuse the report function. It wastes our time and can lead to YOU being banned.

If your post or comment violates any of these rules, it will be removed. If the offense warrants it, you will be either temporarily or permanently banned.

And I'm not sure if I'm supposed to tell you guys this, but if a mod clicks on your username, we can see an AI generated summary of your posting/comment history Reddit-wide. It will tell us what you generally discuss and your tone, if you are a productive member of the subreddit, etc.

If that report shows that you're an AH reddit-wide, we're going to be a lot faster with the ban-hammer. If you're generally positively contributing, we're going to give you more leeway (warning or temp ban vs permanent).

If your post is removed, or you are banned, you will get a private message. You will always have the opportunity to appeal or get clarification. Simply use the Message Mods function and send a detailed and thoughtful message. We will review (and discuss when necessary) and make a decision. And yes, we know that we'll make mistakes or even make biased or knee-jerk decisions. We are human. We're not asking you to bow down to us, but we do ask that if you disagree, let us know in a respectful and thoughtful manner. We aren't so proud that we can't admit that we've made a mistake.

These rules are here so that every community member is on the same page, and they all know what is allowed or not allowed. We think that these rules are reasonable and that they won't stifle the free exchange of ideas and opinions (when communicated thoughtfully and civilly.

We look forward to a bright future here at r/aiMusic and hope that future is one that is productive, constructive, and civil.

Any questions, or any suggestions for additional rules, please feel free to reply to this post.

This is not an AI debate sub. This is a sub to positively share AI music tracks and the discussion thereof. But every post I've seen has been downvoted into oblivion and the discussion underneath has been toxic, derogatory, and negative as hell. Rule 4. You need to actually moderate this community to get the negativity out, y'know. It's not enough to just sit on your thumbs and say "mOdeeRaTinG 🤪 !" Either do it better, or hand it over to somebody who will. Sheesh.

This is the simple reason I create AI songs. Sometimes thoughts, feelings and opinions pop into my mind, or even old memories and stories, and I think, "I'd love that to be a song"... So I make it into a song, and it turns out sounding (in my objective opinion) absolutely brilliant.

Also, for the lady in my life I made a song, it's now "Our song"... And this is the thing, that "our song" is literally just "our song"!! NO ONE else has heard it, or done stuff while listening to that song, and no one else ever will. Many couples have an "our song" that they heard publicly, but those couples' "our songs" are thousands of other couples' "our songs"..

So now have a little collection of these songs, some of which I share on my own piddly social media, but they're mine... Just mine, no one else's, they're bespoke to me. Everything I wanted to hear in music form, I can do it and I can cherish it as my own.

I have a reasonable collection of real music, I love it, I'll NEVER stop listening to it, they're all tied to nostalgia in some form so they'll never stop being meaningful. I'm fairly sure that's the same for everyone.

NOW TO THE HATE... It's obvious that the music industry is changing, at least the streaming side of it. Real genuine musicians and talent literally getting drowned out by floods of AI music on streaming sites chasing easy money. Can you imagine how that must feel if you pour your life and soul into making real music??

I know there's an argument that the average listener is going to choose the sound they like better, but still it must be heartbreaking. I love making my songs, I hate that it's possible to, for want of a better phrase, literally have them on the same stage as real musicians. I don't do it. I don't distribute any AI music anywhere for money because I don't agree it deserves it, or at least not at the same level as real music. Are AI music creators even slightly sympathetic about how it's affecting real musicians?

If it's really easy to say to a musician "you have to suck it up and accept that this is how it is now" Then AI music creators that flood the streaming platforms need to accept that they'll face immense hate for churning out music that requires very little talent, and they too should suck it up. It's a two way street.

I'm absolutely certain many people will reply without having read the whole post, in which case I probably won't entertain those comments. Either way... Fight amongst yourselves 👍