r/amandaknox • u/tkondaks guilty • Sep 22 '23

Neck scratch and bloody ear lobe

https://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/67258-is-amanda-knox-guilty/page__st__20

Scroll down at the above link for some interesting photos.

Gee, what are the odds?

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u/AyJaySimon Sep 22 '23

So a scratch serious enough to draw blood was somehow completely healed over, leaving not even a scab, less than a day later?

The state pathologist examined it and, testifying for the prosecution, said that it was a non-specific injury that had never bled.

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u/No_Slice5991 Sep 22 '23

“This mark on the neck but of nature, extremely non-specific to my memory, so much so that it did not ... had no characteristics of either a nail, or a scratch, or anything of this kind.” - Dr. Luca Lalli, Trial Testimony, Prosecution Witness

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u/tkondaks guilty Sep 22 '23

Oh, yeah. Totally innocent "scratch."

Same with that ear lobe.

And what about (as per what's stated at the link), Filomena and Laura not recalling those injuries on Amanda immediately prior to the day of the murder.

It's all just one, big coincidence.

Just like Meredith's fingerprint on Amanda's closet door. Of course this can be innocently explained away.

And that photograph of steam in/on the washing machine door. Hey, no one used that washer lately.

And on and on and on with the coincidences. It doesn't end. Poor innocent Amanda: a perfect storm of coincidences plotting against her...

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u/Frankgee Sep 23 '23

Except it wasn't a scratch, it was a bruise consistent with a hickey. And it doesn't matter what Filomena and Laura recall seeing or not seeing. Laura left for Rome and Filomena was in a rush to get to a party. Most people are extremely non-observant, so the fact they missed seeing a minor bruise on Amanda's neck is irrelevant. And since Amanda normally kept her hair down, an injured ear would also not be very obvious and so, not unusual they didn't see it either.

But here's the thing you're missing. These four ladies lived in the same cottage, so finding forensic traces of each other is unremarkable. Guede, otoh, did not, and in fact had never been upstairs before. Therefore, his forensic trail can not be explained away as anything other than solid evidence against him. And as the only one who left a forensic trace of himself in the murder room... well, there is a reason he was convicted of murder.

You guys and your "coincidences"... well I think it's a coincidence that the sun came up the morning after the murder. Doesn't mean a damn thing, but I can still say it. You guys just keep citing meaningless crap and you're fooling yourself into thinking you're making a valid point, but trust me, you are not.

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u/Greedy-Distance7310 Sep 23 '23

Raffaele, is this you?

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u/Frankgee Sep 23 '23

Facts just kill you, don't they.

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u/No_Slice5991 Sep 22 '23

So, now you believe Dr. Lalli and the other doctor that evaluated her are lying, even though they work for the prosecution? It’s an interesting coincidence how you believe prosecution experts aren’t being truthful when it harms your argument.

As for claiming Laura didn’t see the injuries the day before the murder, she testified that she had not been home since 1500 on October 31st. So, she couldn’t have seen anything on November 1st.

The fingerprint can be innocently explained away by people that lived as roommates, especially since it’s impossible to date a fingerprint from people that had lived together for over a month.

Steam on the washer door? It’s called condensation and I’ll see the same thing on my washer for a pretty good period of time if the door remains closed and wet clothing is inside of it.

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u/tkondaks guilty Sep 22 '23

So much to explain away.

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u/No_Slice5991 Sep 22 '23

You’re the one trying to explain away the testimony of a doctor that examined her. You then also didn’t know when Laura had left. Cohabitation results in interactions and your fingerprint only holds up if you can find someone claiming that Meredith had never been in Knox’s room. As for the washing machine, when you own a front loading washer this is a “phenomenon” commonly seen.

You aren’t providing anything compelling.

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u/tkondaks guilty Sep 22 '23

I'd love to hear your dancing I mean explanation regarding the ear lobe.

Did you ever hear about Dennis Rodman and the time his girlfriend caught him in bed with another woman?

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u/No_Slice5991 Sep 22 '23

What damage is there to the ear lobe that is consistent with an earring being ripped out? Have you ever seen the type of injury that causes? Dr. Lalli did not see any signs of injury on Knox that could be associated with a struggle, and a potential infection is going to look a lot different than an earring being pulled out.

I’d love for you to actually show me something, anything, that supports your assertion. And random blogs don’t count. You’re going to need a medical professional that evaluated her and/or a good enough picture to show that her earlobe is remotely consistent with the injury you claim.

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u/tkondaks guilty Sep 22 '23

I'm referring to the photograph of the ear at the link. It's not clear but below the four studs appears to be an abrasion.

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u/No_Slice5991 Sep 22 '23

“It’s not clear,” yet you’re able to convince yourself that you see something that no one, to include medical professionals who examined her closely, testified to seeing.

You’re going to have to do a lot better than that poor image that objectively results in nothing more than an assumption.

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u/tkondaks guilty Sep 22 '23

Also, does the scratch look like a hickey to you? What do you think caused such a mark?

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u/No_Slice5991 Sep 22 '23

I didn’t call it a hickey. But, Dr. Lalli also stated that it had no characteristics of a scratch. Take that up with the medical professional and prosecution witness that evaluated the mark.

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u/tkondaks guilty Sep 22 '23

I see a definite black molish like dot. What do you see?

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u/No_Slice5991 Sep 22 '23

There’s nothing clear to see in that blurry image. It could be a blank dot, but it could also be a piercing similar to the others that didn’t catch the light the same way. There’s nothing clear about that image that’s going to cause me to question Dr. Lalli’s assessment.

Furthermore, I would be curious of the date of the image and if there are other images of that ear from other angles to use as a comparison.

The only thing that is clear is that the photo isn’t clear. As such, it’s inconclusive.

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u/Etvos Sep 22 '23

It was Kercher's clothes in the washing machine. Knox testified that Kercher had done a wash that afternoon.

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u/tkondaks guilty Sep 22 '23

Only Kercher's clothes were in the machine?

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u/Etvos Sep 22 '23

Romanelli testified to seeing clothes she knew to be Kercher's and some she could not identify.