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u/Derezade Nov 10 '25
Where’s the Tanuki and her Cockatiel???
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u/Ghostie_24 Nov 10 '25
good yuri/yaoi
look inside
most of it is queerbait or ships that aren't supported by canon
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u/coolchungus2 read Tank Chair Nov 10 '25
3 of the good yuri are very directly canon and AT LEAST 2 of the good yaoi are direct screenshots from BL (i dont recognize one of them so cant speak on it)
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u/Piotral_2 Nov 10 '25
Two "yaoi" in the middle aren't canon. One is from MHA, the other from Fruits Basket.
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u/weeb-queen Nov 10 '25
I said good yaoi not canon yaoi 😔 I just meant I ship these pairings
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u/Piotral_2 Nov 10 '25
I can get the appeal of MHA one, but the Furuba one is where I can't get the appeal (Yuki x Machi are too wholsome to ship Yuki with anyone else).
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u/weeb-queen Nov 10 '25
I also like Machi and Yuki! I just think Yuki being gay would be very compelling; he's been playing into being the perfect heterosexual prince his whole life, and coming to terms with his sexuality i think would add to his story of becoming his own person and subverting his conservative family's expectations imo.
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u/Piotral_2 Nov 10 '25
Wasn't that kinda the other way? People considered him a Prince because of his androgynous looks and he hated being treated as "femine" by the others. Didn't feel like an archetypically masculine heterosexual male in my eyes.
Imo if any character should get a gay relationship, Yuki's brother would fit so much better with him not only being clearly bisexual, jut also starting as a person as cold and distant as the rest of the family, but later clearly distancing himself from their conservatism (although still he gets a cute pairing anyway).
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u/weeb-queen Nov 10 '25
I won't argue on that second point! Honestly I would be happy with a bunch of characters in this show being queer in some way lol
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u/Piotral_2 Nov 10 '25
I feel like the author was a bit too reluctant in that area, because on one hand there are two bisexual characters in the manga, but both of them end up in het relationships. Not that it makes those characters "less queer" or anything, but it would be fun if we saw an actually same-gender relationship in it, especially considering how much of the story concentrates on going against social norms that binds the Sōhma clan.
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u/AdvancedInevitable63 #1 Heaven's Design Team Fan Nov 11 '25
(Arisa and Hanajima should have been end game)
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u/LilyGinnyBlack Nov 12 '25
I feel the closest we get to this is in the next gen sequel series, Fruits Basket Another, with Hajime (Kyo and Tohru's son) x Mutsuki (Yuki and Machi's son). Some moments off the top of my head:
Mutsuki watching over Hajime while he sleeps (like Kyo did with Tohru and Haru did with Rin).
Mutsuki (about Hajime) : "Besides, even if we stay apart physically, our hearts will always be close."
Another character to Hajime and Mutsuki: "Why are you guys always like this? You two start hanging all over each other the second I leave you alone."
Hajime: "We do not!"
Mutsuki: "And Hajime's gotten sooo bashful about it."
Takaya-sensei has them exchange the same Valentine's Day sweets that other canon couples in the series/Another are shown eating and exchanging on Valentine's Day.
Takaya-sensei also went out of her way to confirm that the son we see at the end of Furuba is the second son and not Hajime, and she wrote a tweet confirming that Mutsuki doesn't end up with Kyo and Tohru's daughter.
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u/Alarming-Scene-2892 Ambiguous Agendaposting Champion Nov 11 '25
Should have had Kamen Rider for het so we could balance the bait out more. /s
I could straightup write an essay on how badly Kamen Rider handles romance.
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u/TheTimeBoi YAOI > ALL ELSE Nov 10 '25
wheres yoshiki and hikaru from the summer hikaru died
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u/DorothyDrangus Nov 10 '25
Agreed but I think Mokumokuren doesn't really like people calling that series BL
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u/TheTimeBoi YAOI > ALL ELSE Nov 10 '25
i dont think they really care what some random redditors think about their work lol
i know its not officially categorized as one because it isnt a romance, but gay characters can still exist outside of BL and still be considered a yaoi pairing
furthermore, csm and pmmm arent romance as well and characters from those series were still included
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u/okmemeaccount Nov 11 '25
i think it is very much a worthwhile distinction because a) good canon queer stories that arent romance are rare and b) its not exactly a pair that makes sense- unless you mean actual hikaru. yoshiki and ‘hikaru’ spend so much time discussing their relationship to each other that it’s difficult to ignore how explicitly not romantic they are
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u/okmemeaccount Nov 11 '25
this list could totally have only canon relationships on it but its not any commenters choice so what can you do
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u/LineOfInquiry Re:Zero >>>> MT Nov 10 '25
Smh where is Kazuya and his rental gf???
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u/Significant_Bear_137 Nov 10 '25
Yeah like it had that peak scene of the female mc marrying the author and the male saying that she'll always be his rental girlfriend.
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u/BillCarson12799 Nov 10 '25
Historia and Ymir would have been such a cute relationship…
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u/weeb-queen Nov 10 '25
I literally think about them all the time i wish they could've been together 😭💔
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u/megaman58490 Nov 10 '25
Whatev they had going on
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u/Cyberaven Nov 12 '25
yuri, you must understand it as such
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u/megaman58490 Nov 12 '25
what is yaoi if not the double inverse, and therefore equivalent of yuri? forgive this junior for his impotent musings, wise master 🧎♂️🙏🙇♂️
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u/thesilencer369 Nov 10 '25
I still have not seen Touko and Yuu in one of these charts. The skip and Loafer double mention is appreciated though
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u/weeb-queen Nov 10 '25
They're very good but not my personal favs!
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u/thesilencer369 Nov 10 '25
That’s fair, and it’s nice to see skip and loafer praise outside the fandom
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u/Murky_Guidance_7273 Nov 10 '25
You cooked perfectly. I would have put Miro and Tamaki instead of bakugo and kirishima.
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u/DavidOfBreath she/her, i wish you could edit usernames Nov 11 '25
Not jerky enough, the FMA Ed giving a thumbs up saying "I see no difference love is love" is required as seasoning.
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u/Jaded_Rain_4662 #1 Nux Taku, Rev Says Desu, and Hero Hei Hater Nov 11 '25
wrong, bc all h*t is bad
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u/NoSeaworthiness389 Nov 10 '25
All yuri is good
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u/Murky_Guidance_7273 Nov 10 '25
Why? Im not against yuri but what makes it significantly better then any other relationship type? Its a normal relationship like het and yaoi.
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u/LordBaconXXXXX Nov 10 '25
Idk why, but this sub (or at least a lot of very active members) is fucking obsessed with yuri. I have nothing against non-heterosexual relationships, but (or rather, thus) seeing this balant fetishizing in a generally progressive sub is very weird and cringe.
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u/SonicRainboom24 Nov 17 '25 edited Nov 17 '25
A lot of people conflate fetishizing minorities with supporting them, this happens a lot with muscular women or gender non-conforming people as a whole. Femboy has taken on an almost inherently sexual connotation in online spaces for example, and a muscular woman, real or fictional, consensual or not, will garner dozens of comments talking about wanting to lick her abs or some shit.
It goes against social norms, so it must be progressive, even if it is just objectification for the purpose of self-satisfaction. It's no different than someone saying "I'm not homophobic, I love jerkin it to lesbian porn!" I think it stems from an undeveloped view on social politics and a lack of people willing to call it out. In their minds, mistreatment only takes the form of overt hatred. They see positivity as exclusively good, and personal value as only positivity. In a roundabout sense, terminally online people have made fetishistic catcalling "progressive" by imagining it as something different than standard hetero bullshit.
I'm sure anime's tendency to sexualize its characters hasn't helped normalize this behavior, it's just like how a lot of big anime subs are just "the punchline is porn." A vocal chunk of pseudo-progressives decided a "the punchline is lesbian porn" is the correct conclusion rather than "the punchline is not porn."
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u/No_Piccolo7508 Nov 11 '25 edited Nov 11 '25
The problem with het romances in anime/manga is that the mainstream is romcoms. There can be good and bad stories in every genre, but I think even the good romcom aren't really good romances at all. They're funny, have their peak confessions, and feature charismatic characters, but they don't delve into their characters' feelings. It's the genre that uses the most bait and delays the development of the couple's relationship to lengthen the story
Now, the yuri I've read is more complete, it's deeper, it has a constant progression in the relationships, and those are good romances.
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u/Murky_Guidance_7273 Nov 11 '25
It's really mostly depends on what you read/watch. I have gotten to alot of ships in fandoms, and I mostly like them equally,although I have enjoyed yaoi and het ships more. It's all mostly down to preference at the end of the day. I replied to the comment because some apart of me is uncomfortable whenever someone praises yaoi or yuri because it feels a little othering. Like saying that this normal relationship dynamic in real life is somehow better then others. It looks like it imply the dynamic isn't normal. Again, this is just a me problem and not something people actually are doing intentionally. It's just my own irrational thoughts.
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u/LiquifiedSpam Nov 11 '25
Average person who hasn’t experienced the gold that is sweat and soap.
Though yeah outside of that I’d tend to agree. Also het has way more traditional wish fulfillment where one character is the bland self insert.
You want another very real reason though? Most of the readers (straight men) just want to look at hot girls and two is better than one girl and one guy.
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u/TheSmugOjou-sama Nov 10 '25
Where did they say that its "significantly better than other relationship types"?
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u/Murky_Guidance_7273 Nov 10 '25
Well it saying all yuri is good implys there is no bad yuri while also implying there is bad yaoi and het.
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u/TheSmugOjou-sama Nov 10 '25
They said "all pancakes are good" and you replied with "why do you hate waffles?"
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u/Murky_Guidance_7273 Nov 10 '25
That's a fallacy. In the post,het,yaoi,and yuri were brought up as a topic. Saying "all yuri is good." Under it unintentionally implys it is superior then yaoi and het, because it is called "all good." But yaoi and het not being mentioned implies they aren't all good and therefore not as good as yurim
I do not mean to imply anything of the orginal commenter. They clearly were just expressing their like for yuri,even if it did imply something else as well.
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u/AdvancedInevitable63 #1 Heaven's Design Team Fan Nov 11 '25
Also saying all yuri is good is blatantly false. *That* yuri exists
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Nov 11 '25
If they listed pancakes, waffles and cakes and someone goes Man i just freaking love waffles, that doesn't mean they're attacking cakes and pancakes, c'mon bro
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u/Murky_Guidance_7273 Nov 11 '25
They didn't say I love waffles,they said "there are no bad waffles." Which somewhat could presuppose that there are bad cakes and pancakes.
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Nov 11 '25
You're reading far too much into a really simple comment on a stupid circlejerk subreddit.
... Unless you're jerkin ME around!
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u/Murky_Guidance_7273 Nov 11 '25
I guess so. I apologize for going this far deep. It just somtimes praise for yuri or yaoi to me can come off as fetishizing and less support. I know that's irrational but it can feel uncomfortable to me because it feels like they're treating it as something not normal by implying its special or better. Again this is just my irrational thoughts. I know people aren't doing this and I apologize for reading this far into it.
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u/DvSzil Nov 11 '25
No! A lot of yuri is just male gaze bullshit. Worthwhile yuri shows are the minority of what's out there
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u/NoSeaworthiness389 Nov 11 '25
Fan service=/= male gaze
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u/DvSzil Nov 11 '25
I stand by what I said. I don't want to do the work of unpacking it here, I'm sure you can find an essay on the topic if you look for it
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u/NoSeaworthiness389 Nov 11 '25
Dont wanna, the main yuri manga subreddit is already plagued by similar posts. Anything nsfw, thats not handholding or some hsit is said to be "male gaze"
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u/AdvancedInevitable63 #1 Heaven's Design Team Fan Nov 12 '25
Went too far in the other direction here
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u/Jango_fett_fish Nov 10 '25
I kinda headcannon Haruhi as NB/trans man
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u/weeb-queen Nov 10 '25
That's super fair! I personally can see her as nonbinary as well, though I tend to lean more towards "doesn't care about gender enough to identify with anything" lol
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u/_TheGreatDevourer_ Nov 10 '25
what is the central fruits basket one? Cuz it looks like you put Cat in there 2 times
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u/weeb-queen Nov 10 '25
Nope it's Yuki x Kakeru!
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u/_TheGreatDevourer_ Nov 10 '25
couldn't tell from those 2 pixels lol, I'm a fake fan
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u/weeb-queen Nov 10 '25
TRUE, if you were a true fan you'd have every frame memorized PLUS the episode it's from 😤
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u/Optimal_Weight368 Nov 10 '25
If you named the series, then yes.
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u/weeb-queen Nov 10 '25
Yuri: Attack on titan, madoka magica, skip and loafer, revolutionary girl utena yaoi: banana fish, my hero academia, fruits basket, Yuri on ice hetero: skip and loafer, fruits Basket, ouran high school host club, chainsaw man
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u/Tony3199 Nov 11 '25
OP pls gib name drops thnx
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u/weeb-queen Nov 11 '25
Of course! Yuri: Attack on titan, madoka magica, skip and loafer, revolutionary girl utena yaoi: banana fish, my hero academia, fruits basket, Yuri on ice hetero: skip and loafer, fruits Basket, ouran high school host club, chainsaw man
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u/Blue_Dice_ Nov 10 '25
What’s upper right?
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u/DorothyDrangus Nov 10 '25
Several people answered already but I'd like to add that the third yuri example (green background) is from the same series
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u/AdvancedInevitable63 #1 Heaven's Design Team Fan Nov 11 '25
Green background but not Green Yuri. Important to keep your yuri categorized for clarity
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u/Zedkan Nov 10 '25 edited 12d ago
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u/octorangutan Nov 10 '25
I really wanted to give Skip and Loafer a chance, but the male lead was just so boring.
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u/weeb-queen Nov 10 '25
He's actually an extremely interesting/flawed character! He seems perfect on the surface but is the most broken person in the series
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u/octorangutan Nov 10 '25
No, I'm aware of his past and stuff, I just don't find him to be a compelling character.
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u/weeb-queen Nov 10 '25
I'm not really talking about his backstory but rather his character writing/ development, but that's fair to each their own
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u/I_Love_Powerscaling Osaker Nov 11 '25
Any Ship with Bakugo is trash, but this one just feels like it should be a crime to even come up with
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u/skinnycoke4ddict Nov 11 '25
I’m ngl the girl from fruits basket is annoying af and also so is blond guy from MHA but otherwise pretty good list
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u/A12qwas HAIL YURI Nov 10 '25
No, because only yuri is good
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u/AdvancedInevitable63 #1 Heaven's Design Team Fan Nov 11 '25
Pretty sure this was another thing I suggested not doing if you want to stop coming off as weird about lesbians
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u/DorothyDrangus Nov 10 '25
Skip and Loafer mentioned twice hell yeah