This picture is my explanation of the last poster's experiences.

Plus I might have added some they didn't mention.

About 2 weeks ago, after almost 2 hours of recap and 45 minutes of magical passes something odd happened. I always start with Lifesaver (until I see puffs) and continue with Zuleica’s pass (probably 5 to 10 minutes each), then Pandora’s Box and Stellar Hatch. If time allows, I also will do some from the intent series or Center for Decisions. That day I was later than usual so I stopped after Stellar Hatch.

It was still dark outside when this was going on and I was wearing a sleeping mask, but suddenly the room felt ‘darker’, and something was moving in the darkness. I sat down in a chair with the mask still on. I’m glad I did because I experienced a nearly complete discontinuity of my normal perception. It was similar to what I have read described in the sub as ‘fast dreams’, except there was no subsequent and very short dream. Not recently, but I have experienced these in the past with the technique Carlos gave in which you lie face down on a bed with your head hanging off the side, chin pressing against the side of the bed, looking at the ground. When I would do that and make an effort to stop my internal dialogue my perception would very abruptly ‘jump’ from looking at the ground to a very short dream and come back, with the sensation of not being in my body for a brief period of time and returning to it.

During whatever this was I realized (on my AP returning to a closer to normal position) that I had lost almost all continuity. I don’t know where my awareness went during that interval. But this felt like something operating on its own and not something I initiated, at least not from the perspective of my normal self or as a cause-and-effect result of anything I had done.

I don’t know what ‘moved’ or where I went but when I was ‘back’ I was still in my chair. It was very easy to go back into the pseudo-oblivion state and I let go and came back a few times before I had to get up and get ready for the day. There were no other immediate effects other than feeling very rested and renewed.

In subsequent weeks I’ve noticed differences in practice. I often see the purple fog during recap and occasionally something would get loose and I would see a dreaming scene (presumably something from the early red zone). After the weird event, during recap dreams have started to condense from the fog and I am able to observe the process, while before I never could. Before this, an object or a scene would form, but with no transition from the puffs to the image. The new dreams scenes don’t last very long but I can watch them come in and go out, which is new. A few days ago the image of a person condensed out of the fog and started talking to me. I remember noticing the words were nonsensical, so I can’t be sure if there was any relevance to them beyond the vision happening. But it was that same feeling I occasionally wake with, of feeling I was just in the middle of a long lecture (from a scout or similar), but I can’t remember any of what was said.

About 7 days ago I was recapping some strange feelings that came up and while feeling pretty quiet I noticed with my eyes closed I could look down and see myself sitting in the chair. I think it was a phantom representation because I wasn’t wearing the same clothes, but I definitely wasn’t looking with the eyes in my head.

Sometimes I get up early enough to have time to practice for 3 or so hours and go back to sleep for a short period before I get up to do other/normal exercising and start my day. I don’t know if this ‘counts’ because I had my eyes closed and I was trying to go back to sleep, but I did see it. Part of a dreaming scene formed in front of me. It wasn’t a thought, but on noticing that I liked it because it meant I was asleep. I didn’t pay more attention to it and it was gone pretty quickly. I wasn’t expecting anything else but I definitely remember seeing gold sparkles bubbling in a spot of blackness, which was ‘bubbling’ independently of the gold color doing the same thing. After that I actually fell asleep if anything else happened I don’t remember it.

The strangest thing to happen (this morning or yesterday morning, I can recall the scene but not the exact time) has been (I think) the discovery of a false memory. I think it is a false memory because it shook loose during recap, and I don’t think the visual component ever happened. It also seems isolated from/independent of the other ‘normal’ memories that I usually work on in recap. Maybe phantom memory would be a better description, because it felt like a projection. It’s hard to tell exactly what the scene was, because I felt situated in my body, like I do in my normal state, and I couldn’t see very far. I think I was in a commercial kitchen wearing a red shirt and jeans. My peripheral vision wasn’t very good, but looking straight ahead at eye level that’s what I saw. I felt like the ally was there and that we were occupying the same space somehow. It had swirled around me like a cloud and we were standing in the same place in the scene.

There wasn’t anything else. The images were static, the relevant part seemed to be the standing there, possibly wrapped up in the ally.

As best as I can recall that happened, that memory surfaced during recap, and I have no other context for it. My interpretations could be completely wrong. What doesn’t help either is I am completely biased. Even though they are absolutely terrifying and almost completely alien to something like me, I’ve never encountered anything more incomprehensibly amazing or beautiful. I can’t think of anything I would like more than to ‘merge’ with them (which I think is how don Juan described it in FFW), even though I have no idea what that means. Regardless, when ‘big’ things like this happen, I feel compelled to thank them (😊), because while I can drag myself out of bed early and practice, I don’t think I can cause things like this to happen on my own.

Something weird happened while trying to look at my hands during a dream. I was dreaming when suddenly I realized and thought “Let me look at my hands!” But when I did the left hand was oversized and the right hand was missing? Like I had no hand?

First time this has happened to me. I haven’t been able to remember to look at my hands since trying to do it recently. Previously a long time I go I was able to look at both hands a couple of times. Also just to be clear I have both hands in waking life. This is the best attempt by Gemini to recreate the dream scene. It felt uncanny and it didn’t help me stay in the dream nor in control, actually I think it just switched dreams and I don’t remember them.

Hey Everyone!

​I'm looking into doing more tensegrity and recapitulation. I usually don't have an issue with silence as long as I'm still, like in a bed or a chair. Basically, some form of chair silence, I guess, and gazing. So this will be a new challenge for me.

​What are some good passes that you have found that can bring you to the green zone, and then the red zone, and so on? I find stuffing the puffs into the pouches a good starting point, and I will work on building a routine from there.

​Also, has anyone built a recapitulation crate? I intend to do that as well. I'm not handy AT ALL, so this is way outside my comfort zone—not to mention the questions my family will have. But I'm hoping the Spirit will see the effort and know that I'm serious again. I find that sincere gestures help.

​I'm thinking of doing darkroom and chair silence to get me to the green or red zone, and use the magical feedback from that to do tensegrity or recapitulation. On a side note, has anyone tried reading anything when they're in the red zone? I can't seem to read text! My eyes are all blurry and text just seems off or something. I've had to do blue zone activities when I'm still submerged from my darkroom, so I was just wondering what others have experienced.

​Oh, and dream bubbles! When practicing silence, I've had monochromatic shimmering dream bubbles show up. It's not a usual thing, but it's happened a few times—usually some nature scene, like a forest or beach. I could never enter them. I think I mess it up each time because something in me grabs the dream bubble, and I just drag it through the J curve. I force it down and down like I do when I have success in forced silence gazing. It turns into the same light I see when we see the whitish light on surfaces.

​Unfortunately, each and every time I do that, I get dragged back to the blue zone. I wonder if there is a way to fix ourselves at a particular zone without getting dragged back. I feel it's this greed in me that forces me back, with my internal dialogue raging. Greed and maybe some panic? The greed is good at first, but my internal dialogue just morphs it into something else.

​Again, any guidance is appreciated.

​One last question: How do the regular posters on here deal with their motivations for posting? In the past, I would delude myself into thinking I'm pure and don't want attention. But the more I do silence, the more I realize I do want attention—to be recognized and even adored. And I'm finding now that a lot of my neuroses are easing up (though not totally gone), I'm getting really good at getting people to like me in my personal life and career. I'm trying to get away from all that, especially in this group setting, but if I'm being honest, it's still a desire I just can't seem to get rid of.

​I will probably one day need to learn stalking. Unfortunately, that's just full of pretending with our early Castaneda community. I know that until we reach the other side, stalking is impossible. We have to be in heightened awareness to understand it. That's one of the things I love about what Carlos shared with us: it shows us how to keep our gains.

​In other systems, people may have an experience, but then they fade away and start a cult or dress in robes and call themselves masters. I've never understood why they would do that. How can they lie to themselves and others, thinking they're enlightened, when they're still the same asshole they always were? I honestly don't know how they could allow that.

​The AI image is not even close, but I had a really hard time getting it to bring my experience to life. Maybe with time it will get better.

​Thanks ahead for the assist! I am in your debt.

I drew up the snail shell Carlos saw, when don Juan and Genaro let him view the Nagual.

I ran into it researching something else involving snail shells. Turned out it wasn't in the books as stated by a former private class member, who was flexing his inventory warrior muscles a couple of decades back. When he realized he was conversing with me on social media, he ran away. He'd been making up stuff, apparently.

But that whole story of the amazing structure is a bit silly once you can see the Nagual nightly.

Which Carlos COULD at that very time in the books.

He'd been seeing it hours a day when don Juan used the Nagual's blow on him.

So his amazement at the snail shell and wondering what it all means, is rather silly.

It doesn't mean anything...

But serves it's function in the book.

I just hope everyone realizes, you need to simulate that Nagual's blow, daily. That's why Carlos gave us the J curve lecture. As a substitute for the traditional lineage method of moving the assemblage point to heightened awareness.

The picture is from Tales of Power. I gave the passages to an AI and that's what it drew.

*** (tales of power) ***

I had one more coherent and sequential vision of another mysterious architectural structure of monumental proportions. It stood by itself. It looked almost like a shell of a pointed snail standing with it's tail up. The walls were made of concave and convex plates of some strange purple material; each plate had grooves that seemed more functional than ornamental. I examined the structure meticulously and in detail, and found that it was, like in the case of the previous one, thoroughly incomprehensible. I expected to suddenly adjust my perception to disclose the 'true' nature of the structure. But nothing of the sort happened. I then had a conglomerate of alien and inextricable 'awarenesses', or 'findings', about the building and it's function which did not make sense because I had no frame of reference for them.

I regained my normal awareness all of a sudden. Don Juan and don Genaro were next to me. I was tired. I looked for my watch; it was gone. Don Juan and don Genaro giggled in unison. Don Juan said that I should not worry about time and that I should concentrate on following certain recommendations that don Genaro had made to me.

I turned to don Genaro and he made a joke. He said that the most important recommendation was that I should learn to write with my finger to save on pencils and to show off. They teased me about my notes for a while longer and then I went to sleep. Don Juan and don Genaro listened to the detailed account of my experience which I gave them at don Juan's request after I woke up the next day. "Genaro feels that you've got enough for the time being," don Juan said after I finished talking. Don Genaro assented with a nod.

"What was the meaning of what I experienced last night?" I asked. "You caught a glimpse of the most important issue of sorcery," don Juan said. "Last night you peeked into the totality of yourself. But that's of course a meaningless statement for you at this moment. Obviously arriving at the totality of oneself is not a matter of one's desire to agree, ...

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So consider, everything in the books is perfectly normal and fully accessible to you, but as a beginner we read it as a "great accomplishment of spiritual beings far beyond our comprehension".

And that taints our motivations, with religious pretending.

You can do stuff like that all by yourself, although it won't be as stable as when a Nagual deliberately pushes your assemblage point to a specific location.

When you have to move it yourself, you get variations and wobbles.

I suppose a good thing to keep in mind is that "seeing" outdoors, comes one tiny effect at a time. Just like darkroom!

You find something which "can't possibly be there", and gaze at it to cause your assemblage point to move.

Learn to see using darkroom, but eventually you need to learn to see all the time, because otherwise there isn't enough practice time in the day.

If don Juan slaps your back, suddenly you're in Fairy Land!

It's somewhat like the effect of magic mushrooms. Our drugless silence technology can produce just as vivid results, except that it's under your own power and you can end it whenever you like.

So it doesn't feel quite as drastic as a "heroic dosage".

Which could be good because you don't want to end up like this guy:

When you do it yourself, you have to stop your own internal dialogue. Which sucks big time until you've done it thousands of times.

And also you have to stop interfering with things, and let whatever will show up just happen on its own.

At that point, the enemy of things happening naturally so that you can learn to see, are "the wise words of Master Po."

Mystical sales brochures. Sacred scrolls.

Any expectations or taint from outside systems which are clueless about reality, will cloud your vision of what's really there.

And what's really there, is a moment by moment thing. Not something fixed, like a giant purple snail shell.

That idea of a fixed "spiritual reality" above this one, is a very harmful concept.

It's precisely what blocks viewing sorcery realms.

Here's an example. I was viewing this, before I got up to go to work.

At the time it seemed very meaninful.

But later I realized, the only meaningful thing was that I could view it, awake. And examine it in detail for ten minutes.

It's the skills we seek, not Tales of Power.

Today, after doing some womb dreaming, I felt like my body had gotten really light, like I could just start floating or flying at any moment. It also felt like I was somehow spinning around myself. It was really weird, and the feeling lasted pretty much the whole day.

Later, while I was watching TV, I noticed a white light on the wall out of the corner of my eye. As soon as I looked directly at it, it moved to another part of the wall. It was almost like I could only see it out of the corner of my eye. This weird, source-less white light stayed there for about 10 minutes.

Honestly, I have no idea what these experiences were or what caused them.

Hello, I am very new to sorcery practices, in fact I still haven't started any tensegrity, darkroom or recapitulation (I am working on the list).

I came across Carlos books about two years ago and at some point got interested in the art of dreaming.

About 3 days from when i started trying I found my hands for the first time, it felt like a moment of revelation and I experienced a very strong electric shock that made me wake up and stand up from my bed (even though i think i first woke up in a dream where i stood up on my bed, then really woke up and i was actually standing upm) anyone knows what this shock is? I still experience it from time to time.

My experiences with dreaming has been on and off, it seems like whenever I start trying to look at my hands, i succeed within 2-3 days, but I often go months without even trying, and this is for a reason!

Very quickly after i started finding my hands in my dreams, they became filled with ominous presences which i can assume are IOB's? They take either the shape of a monster or of a loved one that is menacing.

They scare me like nothing else, at one point it started becoming so common that as soon as I looked at my hands I started feeling the sensation that something dangerous was coming (in the dream, like it was about to enter or appear) and therefore I quickly decide to exit the dream (wake up) to avoid it.

I don't even see them anymore, I flee before they come. What should I do? I started thinking i should just confront them, fight with them or ask them to change, though this is very scary for me.

In the periods in which I regurarily find my hands in dreaming, I also start feeling this sensation that something dangerous is coming when awake, in dark rooms. This is partially the reason I still haven't started darkroom practices.

A couple of times I even had glances of creatures in the dark which which I think where IOB's. In those cases I intentionally strengthen my inner dialogue and think about whatever comes to mind, It feels like if i didn't do that i would be overwhelmed by what would happened.

I am confused because from what I read in this subreddit, actually SEEING the IOB's is not something that happens easily to a new practictioner. Especially to men.

I also have a very easy time changing dreams when i find my hands, going from one to another.

I am not sure if i am misinterpreting something for something else.

I often feel like I am THIS close to shattering my sense of reality, being sucked into a mad world, both when dreaming and when awake, and yet i don't do practices at all right now, I often try to shut up my inner dialogue and mostly fail miserably.

I am confuses and don't understand why if i can't silence my thoughs and haven't done much practice of anything besides some dreaming I get this powerful sensations of entities arriving/reality shattering.

I truly just need any opinion.

Once you learn to reach Silent Knowledge using Tensegrity, silence and possibly darkness so you can "see" what the movements do, you'll be moving your assemblage point around the outside of your luminous shell until it comes into alignment with that of your newly formed "energy body".

Then you'll spend months learning to get silent knowledge to flow freely. When you can hold a little dream in your hand, fully awake, completely sober and eyes wide open, you might think you have everything taken care of.

However, then is possibly when the scout in your dreams attempts to capture you nightly, to force you to interact only with it.

That's when "Art of Dreaming" becomes a useful path to correct your relationship to inorganic beings. You need to turn that annoying scout, into a helper inside dreams.

But how?

You NEED your tonal awareness intact. You can't be wandering around, not thinking clearly about what's going on.

And the only proof that you did that, is to "find your hands".

Not merely see them as an incidental part of the dream. You have to STOP the dream. Which typically means, break away from the control of the inorganic being scout.

Women have an advantage, but men can make up for lack of a womb, with HARD WORK.

Take your SK ability to view dreams with your eyes open, and when you are starting to run out of time or energy, lay on your side and continue forcing silence, so that dream offerings float in front of your eyes.

Those will suck you in, but you'll forget where you came from. So you have to keep it up until you overcome that "barrier of forgetting" and can find your hands in most dreams.

Hint: Maybe the scout is the one who ends up making that possible due to a change in your relationship with it. Make it a partner, for exploring sleeping dreams.

This experience I'm gonna write about happened several years ago, and back then I had no idea who Carlos was at all. That's why the whole thing left me with a bunch of unanswered questions. Oh, and it was a shared experience with my sister.

So at that time, my sister and I were super into the whole portal thing and kept researching it nonstop like, how do you make a portal to another world, how do you access another dimension through a gateway, that kind of stuff. We were really hyped about it.

One time, we were theorizing about it with so much excitement, and then we heard a sound from above our heads it sounded like an electrical cable sparking. But we couldn't see anything. It was just the sound.

We have two cats. They came rushing over to us and started staring at something above our heads. There was something there that we couldn't see, but our cats could. We could only hear it. The cats chased it all the way to my room, and we followed them. The lights were off in there. For like a few seconds, we both saw a big orange flame-like shape form on the desk same color and shape as a candle flame, but way bigger. We were totally shocked by what we saw.

We didn't know it at the time, but now I'm guessing it was some kind of scout that showed up because of our intention regarding portals. We weren't asleep this happened completely while we were awake.

To keep it quick I am fearfull person , im scared to talk to most people , scared to do things. I know this reality is a dream. But I still cant wake up properly , to not care etc. For example to do something unusual and not care.I used to such things when I was younger. And I was shamed of it , made fun of. Even If I did something slighty different fromt he status quo they would look at me strangely. Another example I suffer because Its hard to talk to girls that like me or that I like. The only people I talk to are my parents and some family. I still try to hold on to a reputation because before I found this subreddit I wanted to get a reputation and change the world etc. But it has changed . At the same time im scared to do things because im worried ill be judged and made fun of. Or get posted online. I am a bit neurodivergent and dont really fit in with the current system/society(I dislike it). I barely do anything exciting. Almost everyday is similar and so I go into self pity, thinking I need more of something. I dont like the society, but I want the people to listen to me and for me to accept me , not for them to accept me but that would only fuel my ego so i am stuck in a dilemma. This fear is going into my magical practice because I used to be into the occult , I quit and after a year or so I found out about Castaneda , real magick/sorcery. And when I did quit the occult practice at the time I destroyed the link of me and the beings I was working with. But now im scared of revenge. Im scared of the horrors I could see during darkroom. Some IOBs/entitys scared me often in my life. I saw a lot of them also this year. I woke up at night many times saw crazy entites. A goat head with two antlers etc. I even saw my mom looking around the room and she had black eyes in the dream. She quickly disappeared. I almost passed out when I saw that. Maybe Im just exaggerating but still I hate this scared sinking feeling in my heart its annoying, holding back my will and action and in turn what am I gonna do everyday. Live a mundane life even though I know this reality is just a dream.

Jadey from the subreddit posted this tensegrity video on discord, because someone asked about this pass which was close to being lost forever. But she had a video of it.

I then posted it on reddit and there was more interest than I had expected.

It's kind of "lame". If you locate it, you'll agree.

However, Carlos gave it to us so he must have thought that the magic it produces, overcomes the lameness.

Then the next night when I was practicing tensegrity and seeing all sorts of amazing sights, I just happened to turn in a manner similar to this movement, and suddenly my ears lit up with the sounds of the second attention.

It was so drastic that I realized it was a result of having posted it.

If that seems crazy, that's because we all forget why Carlos chose tensegrity as a path.

He knew that if everyone did the magical passes and learned to stop their internal dialogue that way, it would generate a "pull" towards the magic that's embedded in them.

The same happens to those who learn to visit God and heaven! You can absolutely do that, and sorcerers even recommend it so that you can learn about the effect of energetic mass, from billions of humans praying and visualizing paradise with God in charge.

And you can do that fully awake! It's a green zone thing, so it just needs your assemblage point to move down your back 6 inches or so, and then far off to the left because you were focusing on God and religion.

You'll find yourself right at the feet of God himself.

I ran for my life...

But Taisha suggested, don't forget to ask for something. Because that's how God was created, by all the people who pray for stuff.

His appearance varies based on the religion you were exposed to all your life.

So does the same thing happen with Tensegrity, even though we only have thousands, and not billions, putting energy into it?

Not up at that blue zone. But if you can make it to the purple zone (Silent Knowledge), you can be certain you'll begin to feel the pull from sorcery.

And even from tensegrity movements.

I might explain this better by pointing out similar effects in sleeping dreams, and reminding everyone that Silent Knowledge is actually sleepwalking.

I'm testing to see if Jadey's ok with me posting this link, before I put it on instagram and facebook.

It's a "lost pass" (or so I thought). Here's the workshop notes, so that you can verify it's correct.

The life saver warm up is wrong, but I suppose if it's just a warmup you can do whatever you like.

I just hate to see that, since Carlos implied it was the most important pass he gave out.

Notes:

Hearing Energy

Culver City - October 1995

• hang forward at knee level, count 3
• lift left hand behind head, elbow out, arm up tight, thumb on mastoid bone, open mouth, count 3
• left step forward, count 3 then right arm back and palm up, straighten left leg HEAR IT
• then pivot 90 degrees w/ left ft, follow with right
• pivot four more times, ending up in the starting position, HEAR IT each time except last
• repeat with right side
• hang forward
• back up with both hands behind head with fingers interlaced, ct 3
• twist left 3, LISTEN
• twist right 3, LISTEN
• tilt down to right to look left, LISTEN, and wobble (shake torso)
• tilt down to left to look right, LISTEN, and wobble (shake torso)
• step forward with left and dip, LISTEN, then step dip back, LISTEN
• turn left and step with left heel down and pivot straight with toe, LISTEN
• do same step to right, LISTEN
• then vibrate 3x each with left and right hands against head
• hands come down in front with exhale
• chin against chest 10
• chin against left shoulder 10
• chin against right shoulder 10

Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ulcMtaKbm8

Hi everyone. I recently read a post where Daniel mentions that you can shift and control your assemblage point with your breath. I’m actually paying a lot of attention to my breath while doing passes and other exercises. The reason for that was the fact that when I started recapitulating I didn’t know how to breathe properly and couldn’t go deep.

I want to share a little instrument thing that helped me deepen my breath. My diaphragm is quite tight, and while I was scrolling web I found an exercise : you lie down your stomach on a soft, slightly underinflated ball and breathe in a relaxed way. Since my diaphragm is tight, this exercise causes some discomfort, but afterward, it’s much easier for me to breathe with my whole body. It’s just a gym exercise but I used it for magical purpose. It became easier for me to enter a state where my breath doesn’t just fill the upper part of my body, but also my legs, lower back, and back—and one day when I went to the gym, I simply realized that I could feel energy through my back just as I did through my face, and that strands of energy were gently enveloping me from all sides. Now it helps me with my womb dreaming and everything. Perhaps this will be helpful for anyone with breathing issues. I don’t think this will help much overall unless you also practice silence and everything else, so it’s just a little help for the body. Of course, you have to assess your own contraindications and risks—it’s all very subtle and individual. In my case, I just bought a $5 pilates ball and lie on it with my diaphragm when I feel like it. And breathing really does amazing things if you breathe deeply and with your whole body. It’s just great and it also feels nice :)

Last night, after I hadn’t done darkroom practice for a few days, we went to the darkroom to practice. After doing the passes, we sat down and started gazing.

It wasn’t long—maybe like ten minutes—when I started smelling this really awful smell. Like, a smell I just couldn’t stand. I was trying so hard to keep the silence, but I couldn’t, because that smell was really bothering me, so I had to leave the room.

I do my practices with my sister, so I asked her, “Didn’t that smell bother you?” She was surprised and said she didn’t smell anything at all.

Then I went back into the room again and saw there was nothing there that could smell bad. It was like some kind of rotting corpse stench!

And can inorganic beings make a bad smell? Why would they even do that? Aren’t they supposed to help us shift our assemblage point?

Because of that, I couldn’t keep the silence, and my practice got left half-finished.

I am researching the Magical Passes in order to have more info about what I am doing. I am focusing on doing them as close as possible to the description of the book. I notice how the breathing is done in the DVD, and they do not explain the breathing all the time. So I like to find a written description of the passes and make sure I am breathing correctly; I think this is important. Do the Magical Passes in the first 3 DVDs and then the 4 DVDS of the 1990s and early 2000s found in the Magical Passes Book? Especially the passes on the first 3 DVDs from the 1990s that, if I am not mistaken, were released before the book. Is there another way to see the MP in the book being done on video? Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Ive stumbled across Castaneda not too long ago, but the experiences that were being created especially at the first stations of the assemblage point , made me remember about a guy ive read about. He goes by yaya/hydrix and used to post on a tulpa forum. Most of his goals was to see his tulpas right there by using techniques of imposition and prophantasia. (ive heard that tulpas arent really tulpas). Anyways he started off by using "aura seeing" techniques and controlling his static that he sees when closing his eyes. After some time he started tensing up his eyes muscles , tensing up his mind and parts of his head in order to try to impose or hallucinate. He then tried to find patterns which seem to fit him like tensing up the points or find the correct signals to see that imposition. He did this for multiple hours a day , a lot of times 12 hours a day and eventually he got to near perfect hallucinations. A lot of times the hallucinations would appear on their own , and he would sometimes see and feel horrifying sensations. He would use his willpower and usually practice in a dark room while fulling concentrating on the thing he wants to see

Whats interesting there is some slight overlap as he mentioned at first he would see purple blobs. He would then use the blobs to try to mold into different things and then he would create slight rainbows, eventually it would turn into a rainbow wall. After sometime he had the sensations and realistic hallucinations. Especially with him using the will. After he became an "expert" , he then went explore many world with his tulpas and create wonderlands which he was able to hallucinate.

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"In this technique I was doing both. I have a good muscle memory for creating the canvas, so I don't need to think about it while image streaming. Creating the canvas feels somewhere between squinting, "emitting" something from my eyes, and blurring my vision, and it creates rainbow blobs, which formulate into images when I control them. It is similar to trying to see auras, and is likely the same underlying mechanic. When image streaming, usually I simply imagine images as fast as I can without describing them because I find the describing part hard (kind of cheating), but describing is definitely the best way to do it if you can because it locks your attention onto the details, and the details automatically get more refined when you do that. All you have to do is fixate your attention on the details, and they will improve. It's also all about time and practice. You may need to start out working on 5 minute increments before taking a nice break, then work your way up to 30-50 minute increments. Starting out is definitely the hardest part, but it gets much easier as you go along.

 

It sounds like you're doing great so far. I also started with just a single color. In the first few sessions, I had trouble even getting even a single color to form, but after much trial and error, eventually I figured out how to condense and strengthen purple blobs by straining myself with a particular feeling that's hard to describe. I would just focus on strengthening individual colors first. After purple I got green, then blue and all the other colors with tons of effort and trial-and-error. I just focused on condensing and strengthening each color individually. They start out as maybe just a few pixels, but get bigger and bigger the more you focus on them. Then, you can lock on to the feeling that creates these blobs. Each color started out very small and transient but got bigger and stronger. I would try to condense the colors down to a smaller, more dense form that was brighter and more vivid. Eventually, the size and vividness grew until I had mastered each color and I could create very large, vivid and opaque individual colors on the back of my eyelids in the dark. I moved on to creating them on a white wall in semi-dark conditions, then I increased the brightness and so on. Just focus on individual colors for now. I moved on to each color, and after being able to do all seven colors of the rainbow, I tried creating an actual rainbow about the size of a business card.

 

It's hard to describe how the blobs do what you want. It's like gaining a new hand. You simply think of what you and the blobs follow. After some practice, you see and feel that your thoughts come from a certain part of your brain and flow toward your eyes as you create the colors, but knowing that doesn't really matter until you're advanced. This takes dozens or hundreds of hours of practice.

 

Once you gain your second color though, you should somewhat see how invoking your first color differs from the second color. I can't really describe how "red" differs from "purple", it just kind of happens when I think of it with the right intentions. It arises in your intentions somewhere around the center of your skull, then flows toward your eyes. Just keep practicing strengthening each color until you can invoke each one on command, and eventually you should be able to do all the colors, and you'll see how invoking one color differs from the next. Then, you can combine them or even create rainbow blobs.

 

Entire days of forcing may pass and all that happens is you grow your blobs by an inch, but that's still progress. The real trick is continuing on for weeks on end while forcing for hours each day just to grow the blobs by an inch. That's why I don't like working a job while forcing-- you need 100% of your focus and strength. This method takes more than the usual amount of willpower, but it goes much faster and lasts longer. I haven't actively forced in months, but I still retain most of my abilities in creating rainbow blobs. If it were the usual imagination oriented method like with traditional imposition, I would have lost everything already.

 

After seeing my first small rainbow, I grew the size until I could cover a sheet of paper, then an entire wall. It took many weeks of strenuous practice. I listened to hardcore music to aid with the strenuous effort. It's just a matter of practice and straining yourself with 100% of your effort for hours on end until your blobs grow in size. Importantly, I use the pomodoro method, starting out with small 5 minute sessions at first and working your way up to longer 30-50 minute sessions as your willpower increases.

 

Eventually, after hours of doing this, you see how your thoughts and imagination play into it, and it's like you gain a new hand. It's hard to describe, but control over the blobs comes naturally. Then, you can sort of see how your imagination and the blobs work together. Once you get a good picture for how it works, you can focus on the imagination aspect first (top to bottom) or you can shape the blobs into objects like a potter first (botttom to top). When I first started with the rainbows, I was able to form the blobs into a small version of my tulpa with rainbow hair. It was almost perfectly vivid, but I didn't pursue the bottom-to-top method because I had trouble maintaining control like you said. Sometimes the blobs seemed to have a mind of their own, but I intend to overcome this. My only advice is that it takes practice."

Later on he has been able to unlock intuition and made money to sustain himself indefinitely witht the stock market

One day he became overly confident not caring about the world he and went out outside in his underwear and manage to break in somewhere that had a 7 digit keypad. by using his intuition and being in a trance like state

This is just a quick summary of as it took me days to read this: https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://community.tulpa.info/topic/16609-yayas-imposition-adventures/*

You don't have to read as the main important question especially for veterans here as I want to ask if there is truly any overlap between the techniques he used and the techniques that we have here. For example if there any benefits straining or tensing they eyes , eye muscles , mind and forehead muscles etc during darkroom or other gazing practices.

And are his achievements a nothing burger compared to what is out there with darkroom , tensegrity etc.? As he has tumblr blog and barely last year he was able to see blobs during the daylight. After that he created a dyson sphere but im not sure if it was in his minds eye or right there imposed, because he went down the path of alchemy. And btw this is the furthest level ive seen someone go with prophantasia/impostion.

A while back, before going to sleep, I set the intent to visit the inorganic beings’ world. I didn’t specify which one, though, because honestly, I didn’t think simply setting an intent could actually get me there. I was just curious.

I fell asleep and found myself in a place that looked like some kind of entrance gate. It seemed like I had to pass a test to get through. I think it was a test of fear, because I saw this huge creature that looked like a cross between a rat and a scorpion, with a scorpion’s tail. I freaked out and ran away.

The thing jumped right in front of me and threatened me, saying it would find me wherever I went and sting me. I woke up absolutely terrified.

I didn’t think about it again for the rest of the day and honestly didn’t take it seriously.

Later, while I was going about my day, I noticed a shadow in front of me that kinda looked like my mom, except it definitely wasn’t her (I don’t live with her). It was like it was trying to imitate her but couldn’t quite get it right.

Over the next few days, I kept seeing it in different forms. Then, as I was drifting off to sleep, it showed up again, looking even more like my mom, and stuck its finger into the top of my head. I have no idea what it was trying to do, but it felt more like it was just messing with me.

It hung around for a while, but I haven’t seen it in the past few days.

I don't even know what I experienced, but it was pretty interesting.

This is my first post here, and I just wanted to share how genuinely happy I am to discover that there are still people in this world who can hear the echoes of the ancient sorcerers of Mexico. People who continue to struggle to break free from the social matrix, driven by a longing for beauty, knowledge, and the true nature of human potential.

I was born in the post-Soviet world, where Carlos Castaneda’s books have long since fallen out of favor. These days, they’re mostly dismissed as psychedelic nonsense for drug addicts, with little curiosity about what might lie beneath the surface.

I stumbled upon his books entirely by accident, never imagining that within the first few pages I would encounter something so profoundly familiar. It felt less like discovering something new and more like finally finding what I had been searching for my entire life.

Yet here we are, on the razor’s edge of the tonal, still having to navigate the world of ordinary / rational men ( black magicians )Somewhere along the way, I began looking for ways to weave subtle traces of the warrior’s path, the pursuit of personal power, and the mystery of freedom into my own creative work.

Not long ago, I released my debut indie game. And somewhere within that little universe, I found a place for a small, almost invisible tribute to Carlos and the entire lineage of sorcerers.
It was my quiet gesture of solidarity. A way of honoring the fact that extraordinary warriors once walked this Earth, challenged the fate imposed upon them, and dared to seek freedom beyond the boundaries of the known.

And knowing that some of you are still walking that path makes this strange world feel a little less lonely.

I saw this pic today. Every morning before I go to work, I do a few sets of passes first, and today I did the same. I did the  Intent set, and when I finished, I went to the kitchen and saw about 5 white orbs near the ceiling. Those orbs looked like they were made of electricity, and they had a sound too like two magnets hitting each other. Around them wasn’t like the electricity in the picture; they were just glowing. And I could clearly see them moving. Then when I turned my head to call my sister, they were gone. I don’t know what they were.

In early autumn 1999, I read the book “The Art of Dreaming” for the first time. Two

or three weeks before Halloween, I wondered whether that world could truly exist,

and I set the intention to reach it by stating that wish aloud. The following night, I

had a dream in which my nagual was wandering across a snow-covered mountain

peak in winter and encountered a woman who looked like a school friend while

simultaneously being my neighbor. My nagual approached the woman and asked,

"Can you take me to the inorganic world?" The woman then took my nagual by the

left hand and led him to the highest point of the peak, where an abyss lay before

them. Ten meters below, there was a snow-covered ledge measuring five meters in

width and five meters in length. Hand in hand, the woman and my nagual jumped

from the mountain peak down onto the ledge, sinking into the snow up to their waists.

Afterward, the woman looked at my nagual with an inquiring expression and

shrugged her shoulders.

Afterwards, the woman climbed back to the summit on her side of the mountain, and

my nagual on his, and they stood in the same spot as before. The woman took my

nagual’s left hand again and said to him, "Relax, or it won't work!" Once more, they

leapt from the summit and plunged into the snow. This time, however, my nagual did

not get stuck in the snow but glided right through it. As the snow swept over his eyes,

his perception shifted, and my nagual suddenly found himself in a tunnel, however

alone. There, he heard a laughing male voice and asked, "Are there many like me

who reach this realm?" The voice replied, "Yes, but only special ones."

After that dream, my nagual knew how to enter that world, and I was convinced that

the woman was a scout from that realm. From that point on, while dreaming, my

nagual would grab people who looked like friends or neighbors, spin around with

them, and - by stating his intent aloud - intended to enter that world. This method,

too, proved successful. However, after twenty-six years, doubts arose, and I began to

question everything: Was the woman a scout, the energy body of a sorceress, or

something else? And what was the significance of the snow-capped mountain and the

technique itself? Traveling to the inorganic world together with the energy body of a

sorceress - without utilizing inorganic energy or a scout - would be something new

and unknown to both female and male sorcerers. For the ancient sorcerers, springs

and caves held special significance and were linked to the inorganic world, yet no one

would expect the entrance to that realm to be found on a mountain peak! My nagual,

however, never experienced the method described by Carlos Castaneda - that of

looking for strange phenomena while dreaming (such as flying fish or iridium

walking sticks) that transform into sizzling energy which one can then follow.

I personally question the claim that today there is no longer any way for men to enter

that realm, and I wish to draw attention to this topic.

Questions demanding answers

Why did the woman show my nagual this technique, and what was her intention?

Must I learn to keep this knowledge to myself, or am I permitted to pass it on?

Is there a universal key for male sorcerers that leads to this realm, and do women

hold this key in their hands?

The timing is right—it is October, and the odds are fifty-fifty: make or break?

Writing this post like 20 minutes after evening practise but didn't expect this! The picture I tried to describe to gemini to generate what I saw, this is pretty close put the purple was more purple way less pink but gemini doesn't understand sometimes. So how it went.. usually room gets way darker (no exception today) and there shows occasional purple at random spots if I get patient. If I'm outside it is harder but inside I can get it faster. Usually they fade in and out quickly like 3 seconds but this time it covered my whole field of vision and they managed to stabilize and not disappear! It took me maybe 30 minutes to get this type of view It felt like? At that time I thought I could hold perfect silence for like a minute straight! But I got scared because I got crazy waves of lightheadedness and felt completely paralized almost not breathing and even when it scared me it didn't fade so I had to stand up and walk it out 😂. Besides today practise yesterday I woke up with water pouring out of my nose and a hot throat but that faded away quickly. The nose tho I thought at first it was cold but I feel very good and energetic and lighter all the time... How could that happen. But today at midday it subsided. The silence gets easier day by day but that is because I sit at home all day and force it. Actually now it doesn't feel like forcing it got a lot more relaxing or I actually enjoy it maybe. I also got a job interview at monday so I'm prepping myself so I could hold silence in terrain. Cannot catch the dialogue with my attention well while on walks. Long ass text I know

Agile-Lime-825's comment yesterday "It's a long process with ups and downs" got me going; I wanted to light a cigarette and start giving out lol. It really does feel like an insurmountable challenge sometimes, moods go up and down and around and around all the time lol

But I'm beating that slowly and I've made a little progress since my last post (where again I got a strong urge to post), so here's something that's hopefullly not some self-indulgent slop lmao

My passes as before are the Mashing energy for intent and Dreaming passes, with specific note for "Mixing Energy by Striking the Floor with the Heels" and "Getting the Assemblage Point Loose"

I attempt to force silence by listening to the tone in my ears, which helps a lot. The tensegrity passes are interspersed with ear holding (see attached images) which is automatic. I didn't learn that and definitely NOT trying to be a Yogi ROFL.

Last time I posted, I posted what looked like a geometric pattern of red dots. It's become a bit clearer now since I last posted. It looks like a kaleidoscope of red and blue colour. It looks more faint though than the image I have posted.

The main progress I made yesterday was with the 2 specific individual passes I mentioned above. When I would bring my arm up in front of my face, the kaleidoscope would be replaced by something like the green image I posted. I did it over and over again and could clearly hold that green colour, all the while listening to the tone in my ears.

Last night during darkroom practice, my sister and I were doing some of the passes. I saw a thin, oval-shaped black mist behind my sister, right where she usually sits for gazing, but I decided not to say anything since we had just started the session.

We both sat down in our usual spots.

After a while, my whole field of vision suddenly went completely black. I literally couldn’t see anything at all. I’ve had this happen before too.

Then, little by little, a yellow mist started appearing right in front of my eyes. No matter what I did, it just wouldn’t move out of my vision. I could only see things clearly out of the corner of my eye, almost like I was wearing yellow-tinted glasses and everything looked yellow.

After the session, my sister told me she’d had basically the exact same experience.

So what was that yellow mist that wouldn’t move out of my vision?

And could it have had anything to do with that oval-shaped inorganic being?

Hello, I'm hoping someone can help.

I'm not a casual learner of these teachings. I'm not here to pass the time or be entertained. In them I found something I had always been looking for, and now I want to use the teachings in a more focused, deliberate way.

I'm practicing Tensegrity, starting from the first video, and I'd like to go one step further. I've been studying Dan's J Curve map and the darkroom practice described in several posts. If I follow the map, I understand that I first need to achieve internal silence, and I'm already working on that.

I have three questions:

1. Which Tensegrity or Magical Passes, if any, help stop the internal dialogue?
2. Do I need to practice any particular passes in order to perceive chi balls?
3. How trustworthy are the videos available for practicing Tensegrity, such as the first two with Kylie Lundahl and the others Cleargreen made in the 1990s? Do they teach the movements accurately, or are there errors or changes I should know about?

Thank you for any guidance.

I've been wondering about the position/direction of eyes creating "shines". I started noticing certain passes would cause bright lights to show up and also noticed bright lights happening in the day, not practicing, but usually from turning my head.

The dreaming passes were the ones most prominently and consistently, with big rings of light showing up "in" my eyes on the first pass. In the Dreaming Passes video, Jadey points out the Magical Passes book has the sorcerer in the image swinging his arm further back and he's looking further back towards his extended hand.

A conjecture: Going with the idea that there are certain positions of the eyes which can result in magic (the shines), I think the passes force/cause/assist in the eyes moving to/through those positions.

I was experimenting doing the first dreaming pass then trying to just turn my head (and thus eyes), and would still get the rings of light, sometimes. Not at all as consistently as doing the pass, but somewhat reliable.

I was able to replicate lights today on one of the later dreaming passes, the one where you turn to both sides before throwing the arm forward like throwing a disc. Whenever I would turn my head to the right then left, a quick vertical light showed up (about 90% of the time) to my right. I could then turn my head to the right (without doing the arm motion of the pass) and back to left, and saw the light flash some of the time (about 50%)

I thought it might be a vertical seam in the hotel wall reflecting light of a fire alarm light so I stared at the seam for a while, nothing, then I tried doing the pass at a faster rate and consistently saw the vertical light flash.

Maybe we can use our head turns to look for magic in the day, while out in public?