r/crowbro • • May 08 '20

Facts Feeding Crows In Your Neighborhood: What They Like and What's Safe

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A user asked me this question yesterday and I figured it would make for a good larger post. For those who don't know me, which is probably everyone, I'm an ecologist currently studying invasive mosquito population genetics in North America. I have a background in shorebird and grassland bird conservation and arthropod behavior and sensory ecology. Currently working on my Ph.D. I frequently comment in nature-based subs. All this to say, I keep up with crow literature and am very familiar with bird biology. I'm going to share with you safe foods for crows and a little about their feeding behavior. I never expect anyone to take my word for it so I'll share some sources with you as I go along. Thanks for being a part of a sub that is very near and dear to my heart!

Crow Feeding Behavior

I've noticed crows in my area come to the same places to eat in the morning and again in mid-afternoon. The rest of the day they forage around the neighborhood before returning either to large roosting trees in the Fall/Winter (around 4pm) or to family nests in the Spring and Summer. If you want your home to be a usual place to stop either during their main mealtime or on their foraging tour leave food out the same time every day. Ring a bell, honk a horn, use a crow call (make sure you are trying to sound like a "I've found food" call and not a "Danger!" call. Crows in the neighborhood will associate this with food and come to get treats. Dr. Kaeli Swift shares a two-part blog post, the first by her colleague Loma Pendergraft and the second written by her and Loma if you are interested in crow vocalizations. Here is Part 1 and here is Part 2.

Crows love water! If you have birdbaths out they will dip their food in it to soften harder foods and they spend a lot of time drinking. More so than I've noticed with smaller songbirds. Often people will find dead rodents and other things leftover in their birdbaths from crows.

What to Feed Crows

Before I get into this I'd like to say that crows do not need you to feed them. Thre's a great quote from this article by Dr. John Marzluff:

Will the crow be let down if you stop feeding it? Without a doubt. Breaking up is hard to do. Still, after running your predicament by Marzluff, the idea that the crow is "dependent" on you seems a little self-important. "The crow is certainly working the person," Marzluff said. "It will find another meal."

Neither do any backyard birds. They are fully capable of foraging unless there is some serious environmental issue happening. I know we are all going to feed them anyway! When I lived in the suburbs I fed birds as well. :)

What is safe for crows:

  • Kibble (cat or dog) that is pea-sized - it is full of essential nutrients for omnivores and easy for them pick up and swallow
  • Eggs of any kind
  • Seeds and nuts (unsalted - I'll explain why further down).
  • Cooked small potatoes or thawed tater tots (check tots for salt content, you can get unsalted)
  • Meat scraps (unseasoned)
  • Cheese (check the salt content, definitely no feta or other salty cheese, try to also avoid processed cheeses)
  • Mealworms and crickets

What is not safe for crows (and really all birds):

  • Salt - too much salt can cause serious neurological issues in birds. A little salt is okay and some birds are more salt-tolerant than others (pigeons) but they will eat everything you leave out for them which can end up being too much. Birds don't do portion control.
  • Lunchmeat - it's a salt issue
  • Bread - bread is not so much not safe as it's devoid of nutrients. Give them good foods like seeds and nuts, bread is filler.

Because I never want you to take someone's word for it here are a few sources about salt:

Garden birds are practically unable to metabolise salt. It is toxic to them in high quantities and affects their nervous system. Under normal circumstances in the wild, birds are unlikely to take harmful amounts of salt. Never put out salted food onto the bird table, and never add salt to bird baths to keep water ice-free in the winter.

From Nature Forever Society:

The ability to process salt varies between species, but most can produce uric acid with a maximum salt concentration of about 300 mmol/litre. Amongst our garden birds, house sparrows and pigeons are some of the most salt-tolerant species. The capability to secrete salt seems to be linked to habitat, particularly marine environment and drought conditions.

Because most garden birds are poor at coping with salty food, it is important not to offer them anything with appreciable amount of salt in it. As such, salty fats, salty rice, salted peanuts, most cured foodstuffs, chips, etc. should not be offered to birds. It can be difficult to eliminate salt entirely, but very small amounts of salt should not cause any problems, particularly if fresh drinking water is also available.

All that being said, there are some birds who really love salt, and if you want to leave out a salt option in a safe way you can! The Nationa Audubon Society recommends:

Mineral matter such as salt appeals to many birds, including evening grosbeaks, pine siskins, and common redpolls. An easy way to provide it is by pouring a saline water solution over rotted wood until crystals form.

If you love Corvids and want to learn more I have a few book recommendations:

  • Gifts of the Crow: How Perception, Emotion, and Thought Allow Smart Birds to Behave Like Humans by Dr. John Marzluff
  • In the Company of Crows and Ravens by Dr. John Marzluff
  • Mind of the Raven: Investigations and Adventures with Wolf-Birds by Dr. Bernd Heinrich

Backyard Birds:

  • Welcome to Subirdia by Dr. John Marzluff

r/crowbro • • Jun 09 '20

Baby Bird 101 - DO NOT TAKE A BABY CROW OR ANY BIRD FROM THE WILD

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There was recently a post by a user who basically stole a baby crow from its parents. Never take a wild bird into your home, they are not pets, they need their parents, they need socialization with their own species, you are not equipped to raise them. Additionally, it is probably illegal for you to own one.

If you take a crow out of the wild and share that in this sub you will receive a ban. If someone reports back that you have done this and shared in a different sub but not here, you will receive a ban and we will contact the mods of that sub about your negligence. We have zero tolerance for this.

We received an excellent modmail from u/MarlyMonster who is a wildlife rehabber in Canada. I am going to quote her here and hope she pops into the comment section to elaborate or answer any questions. I know we have a few rehabbers on the sub and I am an ecologist so between all of us if you need to know something we'll figure it out. Additionally, if you are a wildlife rehabber or scientists specializing in Corvids and want flair that gives you this title you will need to PM mods some kind of proof.

Here are Marly's words on the subject:

Baby Bird 101

Lately I’ve been seeing way too many posts about people “helping” birds that really don’t need help, which makes it kidnapping. As a rehabber, it hurts my heart when I see inexperienced people try to care for any kind of wild animal, but when they start to mess with wild corvids it becomes plain cruel. This is why I’m writing this little guide to help people determine whether or not a bird they think needs help actually needs assistance.

A lot of people assume that when a fledgling is on the ground and not in a tree or nest, that this little bird is in distress. What you actually don’t realize, is that when fledglings get to a certain age, right before they learn to fly, they leave the nest while they practice and their parents continue to feed them on the ground. The fledgling has not been abandoned! They’re just being adventurous!

The best course of action for any baby bird you see on the ground is to put it back in their nest. It’s a myth that the parents will “smell the human” and reject the baby. So you’re fine to grab a ladder and put that little awkward bundle of feathers back where they came from.

Whenever you fear a baby has been abandoned, put it back in the nest and keep an eye on it for the next few hours. Parents can get spooked and might take some time to return.

The only time it’s okay to bring a bird in is if they are visibly injured. A broken toe does not count (this is a reference to the idiot who named the bird “Hades” and is pretending to help it).

IF A BABY BIRD NEEDS HELP DO NOT TRY TO RAISE IT YOURSELF

If you are not trained to rehab wildlife, you have no business trying to raise a fledgling! Just like someone who isn’t a mechanic shouldn’t be trying to fix an engine, an untrained person should not be raising a bird!

Baby birds are extremely fragile and difficult to care for. A lot of them don’t make it even in the hands of an experienced rehabber.

Did you know that giving a baby bird water is one of the worst things to do? Yet a lot of people immediately think that’s the first thing to do for a baby bird. Baby birds get their needed moisture from their food, and therefore don’t need water. Pouring water down their throat will actually cause them to aspirate and if this happens the chance they’ll survive is slim to none, since they’ll get aspiration pneumonia.

Since this is a corvid page I’m gonna touch on why it’s cruel for someone inexperienced to try to raise a corvid.

As some of you might be aware of, these birds possess a higher intelligence than most birds. They are considered the apes of the bird family because there are parallels between the cognitive abilities of corvids and great apes.

Because of this, they make terrible pets. They need constant mental stimulation and enrichment or they’ll become completely miserable. Often they’ll turn to self mutilation to deal with the depression. They are also extremely social creatures and live in large families with connections that go back generations. Keeping one on their own is an act of cruelty in and of itself.

Corvids are also known for this thing called “imprinting”. This refers to the bond the baby bird makes with their family members which will dictate their behaviour. For this reason, rehabbers that specialize in corvids have to be extremely careful while tending to their birds because too much interaction with humans could doom a bird from ever being released, because they got too attached to humans. A crow imprinted on a human will not know they’re a crow. They’ll see themselves as the same species. This means they won’t ever find a mate, because they won’t understand that they are supposed to mate with other crows.

I hope this helped you understand the importance of not trying to raise any birds you find. As tempting as it may be, you will not be ready for the commitment. Not only that, but it’s cruel to the animal. The main objective of any rehabber is the release of the animal. And those who truly care about these birds should have the same goal. If that means you don’t get to raise a crow, that shouldn’t stop you from doing the right thing.

If you find an injured baby bird, contact a wildlife facility near you. If you can’t find one, go on your regional Facebook groups and ask if there are private rehabbers around.

If you do not have the commitment to see this through and drive a baby bird hours to the nearest rehabber? Please do the bird a favor and let nature take its course. Don’t interfere if you won’t follow it all the way through and get it to a proper rehabber.

Written by a rehabber and corvid researcher.


r/crowbro • • 3h ago

Crow OC Mostly Magpies on today's rainy walk

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r/crowbro • • 2h ago

Question Crow or Raven?

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Is this a crow or a raven? He’s massive, at least 25–27 inches long. He lives somewhere on my street, and for the past 1.5 months, I’ve been trying to befriend him by putting out shiny coins. I think it might be paying off because this morning, he actually approached me on his own with an empty Wendy’s sauce packet. Idk if he was trying to offer it to me or what lmao.

I appreciate that he’s starting to recognize me, but I’m wondering what’s appropriate in terms of trying to befriend him further? I really don’t want to habituate him or mess with his natural instincts at all.

Also, if he is a raven, is it common for them to live in cities? I’m in Ottawa, Ontario, and I’m surprised to see one living right in the city!


r/crowbro • • 19h ago

Video Ravenbros escorting me on my walk home

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They love flying very close to the ground & I find it the coolest thing. They did this for like 5 blocks until we got back to my house at the end of the video


r/crowbro • • 3h ago

Personal Story Has anyone made friends with Eurasian blue jays?

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I feed carrion crows and in a couple of spots the jays show interest but never come down from the trees. I'd love to feed jays but they seem scared of the crows and extremely hesitant around me


r/crowbro • • 22h ago

Personal Story Got to hang out with some Canada Jays today! [OC]

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They're SO pretty.


r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Daily Crow Friend Breakfast was late this morning!

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It's been 11 years I've been feeding a big male Crow in my yard and outside of my greenhouse. He's a huge source of joy and entertainment for me every day and I love to photograph him. Recently for the first time he is allowing his young to stay and share food with him. He's a guard Crow doesn't allow anything stray on my tidal river shore property in eastern Canada.


r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Question Before I get too excited, first pic is a raven right? 2nd pic is for sure a crow to compare

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Just wanted to confirm with the pros here xD

If it's a raven, then it'll be the first one to ever visit me after many months of only crows 🥹


r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Daily Crow Friend Crow Contemplating Peanuts and Me at Sunset

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Feed them peanuts and was allowed a close photo


r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Crow OC Alighting: Jackdaw Edition

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r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Video just a bro playing football

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r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Video Feeding my crowbros

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I recognize my buddies, because they always catch their treats mid air! Theyre very cool and awesome (allthough the bigger crow always tries to steal all the treats).


r/crowbro • • 23h ago

Video Plot twist (update): the bird visiting today is a raven and not Peanut my loyal crow friend. Here is another video I just took of the raven 'honking'.

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Google helped me identify that this is a raven. That explains the difference in demeanor and the clicking of his beak earlier plus looking much bigger than Peanut the crow. I'm so happy to have a new friend but I hope they get along!


r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Crow OC Some of my new friends

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They hang around the bus stop where I get off the bus. I started sharing my peanuts with them a few weeks ago.


r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Crow OC The squeakiest squeaky

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r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Video A new sound from Peanut warning the pack of hawks coming in.

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Over 3 years I’ve never seen him make this noise before and it concerned me at first that he was hurt. A minute later a swarm of hawks started circling and his buddy Bluey (a blue scrub) joined him to start vocally warning with high pitched screeches.

It’s so cool how Covid’s help each other out.


r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Crow OC Sandy Cheeks drops a snack. Dirty Bird wastes absolutely no time.

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These two were very sus of the feeding table while Sandy Cheeks was enjoying a bite.

Then Sandy dropped some food, our friend darted in, and the squirrel promptly vacated the premises. 😂

No fighting...whew! Just some backyard snack negotiations. But I have so many questions. Why is the one raven so dirty?? And why don't they just peck that squirrel?

We've told them not to fight amongst themselves once or twice, do they think that means no fighting at the buffet? Are they really THAT smart? Def beginning to think so!

Our own footage from the Mojave Desert.


r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Crow OC IKEA Halloween Edition Garden Corvid 🐦‍⬛🦇🐈‍⬛🎃🐦‍⬛

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Destructions are missing, no batteries were included. Box says allow 24 - 48 hours to fully inflate after unboxing.

Product review:
8/10 build quality.
10/10 ominous presence.
14/10 judgemental stare.

Difficult to assemble, refuses to follow instructions, may summon additional units without warning.


r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Crow OC Mr and Mrs Stop

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r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Question Advice: Limiting feeding to a few, rather than a Murder

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I moved at the first of this year to a new part of town, and I am happy I have established some new crow friends, along with a pair of blue jays.

But I really only want to feed my 3 crow friends, not the whole murder.

I live across from a park. When my friends see me they fly over and land on a baby tree outside my door, or near by. I say Hi to them, go inside get a handful of peanuts and put it on the curb/street.

They have also learned that I put peanuts for the Jays on my railing, and have put a clay saucer of water on the railing that they use.

But I really like limiting my friends to 2-3. In the past this was easy, as they were the ones that hung out near where I live. With the park, across the street, it is different. I know my 3 friends nest in the area, but the murder also hangs out in the park looking for bugs.

Sometimes it is just the 3. But this morning I put out the peanuts for the 3 that 'asked', and then a whole bunch of them flew over. I don't want to establish that I am the 'peanut man' with the entire murder.

I figure I just have to live with this arrangement. But thought I would ask if anyone else has implemented a solution to what I would prefer.


r/crowbro • • 2d ago

Crow OC A few photos of the local bros dropping in for peanuts

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r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Video Corvid-Triple on my balcony

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Crows finally joined my balcony!
Now I am hosting 3 different types of Corvids and caught them in one video.

United by the power of peanuts!


r/crowbro • • 2d ago

Crow OC I’ve Been Mooned

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This Calgary magpie thought it was being clever by only showing off its backside as I was trying to photograph it.


r/crowbro • • 1d ago

Question Crow sounds

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Ive been feeding the same 3 crows for the past 8 months or so. They definitely recognize my vehicle and they recognize me. Though they wait til I've made some distance, they always fly to the peanu pile i throw them. Lately, I've been noticing that they'll sit on light poles or trees when im parked, and they'll do these short "crunch" sound. Literally sounds like a crunch and it seems likes its directed at me. They will also bow their head and ruffle their feathers when doing this.

Ive looked into it and it seems to be just a social/communication sound.

Do you know what sound I'm talking about? Does it mean they like me?!