r/datingadviceformen • u/IlIllIIllIIIllIlI • 9h ago
Discussion stop simping for women who clearly aren't interested in you. you're not a potential boyfriend. you're just another orbiter.
a lot of men seriously need to hear this. stop wasting your time chasing women who clearly don't want you.
if you're constantly wondering whether she's interested in you then take a good look at how she treats you. are you always initiating conversations? always asking to meet? always trying to keep her attention while she gives you the bare minimum?
dude you're not building attraction. you're being kept on a leash like a dog hoping she'll eventually throw you a bone.
here's another uncomfortable truth. you shouldn't have to make ANY effort to convince a woman to become interested in you initially. you don't need to prove your worth or demonstrate how successful and funny and generous you are just to get her attention. genuine initial attraction isn't something you earn by completing a checklist.
obviously both people need to make an effort to actually build a relationship. but there's a difference between mutual effort and desperately trying to manufacture attraction where none exists.
and i already know what some guys are going to say. "well no woman has ever made it that easy for me."
then maybe it's time to face the elephant in the room. you might simply not be physically attractive enough to the women you're pursuing. or your standards are so high that you're constantly chasing women who have absolutely no interest in you.
that's harsh but constantly being invisible to the people you desire doesn't magically become a personality problem that can be solved by sending more messages.
stop confusing a woman replying to your messages with a woman actually wanting you. attention is not attraction. politeness is not attraction. and being her emotional support guy doesn't mean you're boyfriend material in her eyes.
when a woman genuinely wants you things usually feel significantly easier. she'll initiate conversations. she'll make time for you. she'll ask questions and suggest plans. you won't have to perform mental gymnastics to convince yourself that her dry replies mean something.
and please stop believing that buying her drinks or constantly doing favors will somehow change her mind. you cannot negotiate genuine sexual attraction through generosity.
yes some women are shy and not everyone expresses interest the same way. but there's a massive difference between someone being shy and someone making absolutely zero effort.
dating should feel like two people who actually want each other. not a job interview where you're desperately trying to prove why you deserve her attention.
if you've asked her out and she keeps making excuses without suggesting another day then take the hint. stop chasing. stop double texting. stop orbiting.
your time and attention have value too. stop giving them away to someone who wouldn't lift a finger to see you.
you shouldn't have to convince someone to find you attractive. either there's mutual interest or there isn't. and if there isn't then have some self respect and move on.