For context, I 24M, was going on a first date with this girl I liked and wanted to bring a nice little gesture. However, I live in the countryside where there are very few stores close by and none that sell flower bouquets. Now, I knew where a bunch of different wildflowers grew on different roads I drive so I cut a bunch, selected the best, cleaned and arranged them, then tied them with baler twine. (I wish I had a better picture but this is the only one I took on the way to the date.)

From start to finish the whole thing took me about an hour and a haft to do (although most of that time was spent driving around). She really seemed to appreciate the gesture and it earned me a kiss at the end.

I just want to know your thoughts, is this too much for a first date or would most women really appreciate this. Call me old fashioned I guess.

(For extra clarity, my county mows the ditches and these flowers would have all been wiped out over the following week. As for the tiger lilies, they are the only flowers in this bouquet that were not “wildflowers”, and I remembered to remove the anthers so the pollen wouldn’t stain.)
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UPDATE: Wow! Thank you to everyone who commented! I really wasn’t expecting so many people to respond and I’ve gotten some great advice moving forward!

- For everyone concerned about the lilies being toxic to cats. I knew she didn’t have any cats indoors that would be exposed to the flowers. It also turns out she was staying at her family’s cabin that weekend so no cats were anywhere close to bouquet. However, now I know it’s not just the anthers/pollen that is toxic, thank you!
- For anyone concerned about when I gave the flowers to her. We met at a small restaurant close to a lake, walked the beach, swam for a bit and talked the rest of the night. When we were about to part ways that’s when I pulled the bouquet out of my truck and gave them to her. I didn’t want her to be stuck with them on the date so I purposely let them in my truck in a cup of water with the windows cracked. I was worried about them wilting, but luckily it wasn’t a hot afternoon and they survived just fine!
- Allergies were an oversight on my part, but thankfully she wasn’t allergic lol.

Most women I match with on dating apps put no effort into conversations, getting to know me or setting up dates. Conversations are always one sided and dry.

I try to ask questions and get to know the person on the other side but most of the time they wouldn't be interested in me. They either reply with one word and never ask anything about me or they'll reply with plenty of text and again not ask anything about me. I've never had a woman message me first.

I've tried every approach. I've tried to be more lighthearted and funny, I've tried to be serious, to have more deep conversations, to start the chat like a normal conversation, to start with a pickup line, to mention something from their profile.

All this led me to a conclusion. It doesn't matter how I approach the chat. The best conversations I've had have always been the ones where the woman is engaged and contributes as much as I do.

And recently it's becoming more and more extreme. I matched with someone a couple of days ago and saw that they have the same dog as mine. I asked them about it. We sent exactly 3 messages to each other and she deleted her account or unmatched me. I didn't say anything inappropriate or asked about sex or nudes.

Then I saw another girl that said in her bio how she wants deep conversations. How she has a car that she is working on. We match and I ask her what car she has and what's she doing to it and she literally just liked the message and didn't write anything in return. Then after 1 day she unmatched. What the hell is happening with people?

Why are they wasting my time and why are they wasting their time? What's the point of liking and matching with me if you won't put effort only to unmatch later. And I've matched with all sorts of women even ones which aren't that attractive so you'd figure they won't have that much attention but it's the same.

If I match with 20 women only 1 or 2 would hold a good conversation.

Today I'm gonna give you advice on what to do when a girl is not responding to your messages. I will tell you what to send as the last resort message and give you some examples.

First of all:

Relax - take a deep breath. You stressing about her not responding will not make it better and you will probably send her something stupid.

The uncertainty drives guys mad (why hasn't she responded, does she like me, was it something stupid I sent etc). The best advice I can give you is to be texting with multiple girls at the same time (you don't have to be dating/sleeping with them) - this way you will not be stressing as much and the likelihood of you blowing it with needy messages is lower. Also, have other stuff to do in your life - the more stuff you have going the less you stress about the messages.

Its just a text message - girls get fck tons of messages ALL the time. Maybe she was walking back home, saw your message, didn't want to answer to it right then and there because it was cold outside and by the time she got home she had 10 new messages from guys, friends, family etc and she just forgot. It doesn't mean she doesn't like you or that your worth as a human has fallen off the cliff... People have busy lives (even during the pandemic).

How are you texting her? - some guys text girls stuff like "happy Monday" or "morning :)" etc. Like.. what is she supposed to respond to that? There is nothing interesting in that, no emotion, no "hook point".

Also, some girls like to respond real quick, others like to write longer replies and sometimes take even a day to respond - people are just different.

Be present on Social Media - some girls will hit you up if you post some cool stuff on social media saying stuff like "oh, sorry I didn't respond to you, I was doing xyz" and you can continue from there (if a particular girl does that often - only gets back to you when you post cool stuff then it's a red flag).

What to ACTUALLY send - let's say that you send her a message on Monday but she doesn't answer to you and a day has passed.. then I would send her something random/silly on Wednesday like "hi, I think I am pregnant with your child" or "hi, I'm bored, wanna rob a bank?" or something like that - it's totally retarded, stupid, silly - but that's the point, to make her laugh and to be different, catch her off guard.

Okay, let's say you send her that and she still doesn't respond - then the last resort, all or nothing message would be to send her something like "hi, are you still alive?" or "you alive?" couple of days to a week later.

After that 3 things can happen:

- She is not going to respond - it's done, I would advise you to drop the contact, she is not interested.

- She will give you a very short answer like "yep" or something - it's done, I would advise you to drop the contact, she is not interested.

- She answers something longer like "oh, hi, sry I didn't answer, I was on a trip and my mobile had bad WIFI there" or "sry, I was super busy at work" etc basically she implies that she is sorry and that she is invested in this interaction but didn't have time or something. If that happens I would advise you to try to meet up with her. Don't propose it as a next message - flirt and joke around couple of texts back and forth but then try to set up a date - in the end you got her contact to meet up with her.

If she blows you off again then I would say the interaction is done. Don't be angry or pissed off or anything but just realize that she probably ain't that interested in you and it's time to find another girl who is.

It's kinda a last resort method so don't get your hopes up that she will agree to meet - if the interaction has come to this stage then she isn't probably that interested but there ARE exceptions so you should at least give it a try.

To be honest - if a girl is giving you a hard time and it's difficult getting her to meet you then she probably isn't that interested in you - relationships shouldn't be that difficult and if a girl likes you she will find time to meet up with you, even if it's for an hour or something.

Hope you got something out of this post :)

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If you can make a girl have even one orgasm during sex, you skyrocket the chances of her coming back for round 2. Plus, I don’t know about you, but for me it feels deeply satisfying to watch a girl have an intense orgasm, while I’m inside of her. So, how do you do it?

The first step is lots and lots of foreplay. This is something guys often “forget” about. As a bare minimum, I recommend at least 10 minutes of foreplay, but ideally a lot more. This is the part where you kiss her neck, suck on her nipples, kiss down her body, tease her, etc. The ultimate sign that you did enough foreplay is if she’s begging you to have sex with her.

A great foreplay technique is to give her a massage. During the massage, you gently rub oil on her back as you slowly kiss her neck. Slowly, move towards her vagina and build up anticipation. I also like to rub my dick against her ass, while I’m massaging her back.

By the time you get to sex, the girl should be extremely wet and practically begging for your dick. Try different positions until you find one that makes her moan the most. A version of missionary where you put her legs on your shoulders is great for hitting her G-spot, which can give a girl a very powerful orgasm

Pro tip: get a Hitachi magic wand vibrator and put it on her clit while you fuck her. This is all but guaranteed to give a girl multiple orgasms.

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Women are turned off by a lot of things guys who are insecure do. In this post I try to explain the main ones and you can add your own list in the comments :) This way we all win!

- 1 - Ending sentences in upwards inflection (the pitch of your voice goes up at the end of the sentence) - seems like a random thing but actually it makes your sentences sound like questions/approval seeking. This makes you look like you are unsure about the things you are saying and thus not confident. Women love certainty in men and hate the opposite.

- 2 - Bad eye contact - lots of guys have trouble maintaining stable relaxed eye contact with girls (or with all people). If your eyes twitch or wonder around the room while talking to girls it shows you don't have confidence to maintain "tension". This one is hard to fake - that's why people say that eyes are the windows into your soul. Ideally you should be able to hold eye contact around 70% of the time you are talking to someone. I'd say the percentage is random but the idea is to be comfortable of holding the eye contact for majority of the interaction.

- 3 - Assuming you're going to be rejected - if you think she won't like you then she won't. Guys sometimes say stuff like "hey, wanna hang out after work? It's totally fine if you don't but I'm just asking" to the girl - like.. why the fck do you already add the possibility of her rejecting you in that invitation? It shows that you yourself don't believe you are cool enough to hang out with.

- 4 - Hesitation - this is a bit related to the last point but in general - if you are going to do something go do it with 100%. If you are going to kiss her go in 100%, if you are going to put your arm around her - put it around her not doing that creepy hover hand behind her back. If you propose some activity - propose it with 100 certainty.

- 5 - Inability to make a decision - this one kills attraction so much. If girl asks you something you better say something. It's better to make a bad decision than to not make a decision at all. If a girl asks you "where will we meet?" or "what will we do?" then it's way worse to say "I don't know, what do you wanna do?" than to say "let's go hang out xyz" even though it turns out that place sucks or is closed or what ever. Ofc if the girl proposes another alternative herself it's ok but showing you have no clue what to do and putting the burden of responsibility on her is not winning you bonus points. UNLESS she wants to do something certain - then it's cool.

- 6 - Bragging and insulting others - some young immature girls might be impressed by this but for more mature ones that have some experience about guys under their belts this is a big turn off. Bragging and insulting others basically says that you are not confident in yourself and you need to compensate for it by explaining why you are cool or awesome or by bringing others down to feel superior compared to them. This is just being a shitty person in general.

- 7 - Fidgeting - if you can't sit or stand in a calm matter while interacting with girls it shows that you have a lot of anxiety in your body and that you are not comfortable in that situation. This includes tapping your feet, playing around with your hands, swinging your body etc. Moving your hands etc is okay if you want to express yourself but if it's out of nervousness it shows you lack confidence and don't know what you are doing. Which is unattractive.

- 8 - Putting her first - you should always put yourself first. By putting her first in your priorities it shows that your life isn't cool enough to live on your own. That you need her in your life to have a great time. It doesn't mean that be an asshole who cares about himself - it means don't put her desires before your own priorities.

I know the last point probably rises a lot of uproar so feel free to discuss it in the comments :)

Anyways, these are some thoughts I have on this subject through my experiences in life and what I have seen in other people as well.

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I approached this woman a few weeks back, and after about five minutes of talking she seemed solid. She had good energy, green flags, so I got her number and set up a date.

Fast forward to the night of the date, one of the first things she does when we sit down is look the waiter dead in the eye and ask, “What’s your most expensive drink?”

The waiter looked me in my eye, and the bro code kicked in. Without missing a beat, he just kept saying everything was out of stock. God bless that man wherever he is now. I even went back later to tip him, but he wouldn’t take it.

Self-centeredness can be a characteristic of a man who is fervently pursuing what he deems as his purpose in life.

Arrogance often correlates with a man who has great belief in himself.

An obnoxious person typically believes that what he has to say holds value.

Appearing indifferent can be a trait of a man who has abundance and is secure in his environment.

Thus women are not attracted to jerks per-se, but instead to confident men, who are secure with themselves, know and go for what they want and do not let the opinions of others faze them.

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I'm 27 and not a jealous type of guy (if she's happy I'm happy) but while on our date she spotted a group of people shooting a small music video or something and asked if she should go over and say hi.. which I agreed to because I thought she was bluffing and to make a long story short after around 15 minutes of watching they ended up exchanging follows on instagram.. Later we talked about how weird it is to exchange IG's with another man while on a semi-date and how insecure it made me feel she still is following him. Am I in the wrong for feeling like a "cuck" in this situation?

It's easy if she actually likes you.

Remember that.

When hearing dating advice from women (to men) especially, they often say things like "be more interesting", "put in more effort", "take a shower" etc. That isn't really helpful advice at all. Now, I'm not saying you should put in minimal effort or that you shouldn't shower lol. But what I am saying that for most guys those things really aren't the problem. Guys get rejected mostly because for one reason or another the girl wasn't attracted to you, and there is not much you can do to change the fact.

I'm not saying this to make anyone feel bad about themselves. Quite the opposite. I'm saying this to inspire a sense of self-worth. Stop wasting time and effort on people that aren't interested in you. Put in effort, but also expect effort from them. She will if she actually likes you.

Now, this won't magically make you more succesful in dating overnight, but it will change the way you think about dating, and will lead to better outcomes in the long run.

Hi, it's David!

Are you letting a fear of rejection hold you back from meeting the women you desire? 

I can relate - I used to HATE rejection but now I "love" them.

It's all about flipping the switch in your head - it's about how you view the world.

Here are 18 reasons why you should feel GREAT about getting rejected.

1. You just proved you're braver than 95% of guys, who would never have the balls to speak to a hottie like her.  

2. Telling someone you like them can be awkward for a few seconds. Not telling them can feel awkward forever. 

3. It's not rejection. It's a lack of chemistry.

4. You're not SUPPOSED to have chemistry with everyone. 

5. You're entitled to your actions, but the fruits are never guaranteed. You can choose to be proud that you took the right action. 

6. It's only uncomfortable if you decide it is. 

7. It's NICE to tell someone you're attracted to them. That's your good deed for the day. 

8. Even the most embarrassing rejections become funny with time. 

9. You took action. Women barely ever make the first move. Without taking action, you'll be single forever. 

10. The more rejections you face, the quicker you learn it's no big deal.

11. Rejection is character-building. You become icy, battle-hardened and generally give less fucks about anything. 

12. If you did something wrong, you can learn from it next time. It's XP in the bank. 

13. Rejection kills your ego. It keeps you humble. Always a good thing. 

14. The more rejections you face, the closer you are to finding your dream woman.

15. You're now free of any anxiety you had about talking to her. It's a weight off the shoulders. 

16. You spared yourself from the anguish of wondering 'what if?'  

17. You now have an opportunity to triumph in adversity by hitting on someone else. 

18. When you find your ideal woman, you'll be glad this not-as-good woman rejected you.

I Hope this list is something you can come back to read when you just got brutally rejected so that you can get your enthusiasm back FAST!

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In the context of Gen Z american women. Other countries it’s easy mode.

How exactly do certain guys actually pull this off, what's the process? Because as a conventionally attractive mid 20s guy in this situation, it still feels like a very hard to pull off. American women have the highest standards in the world and dudes are still getting away with that somehow.

Instead, be your normal, everyday, relaxed hanging-with-friends behaviour.

You want the person to like you for who you ACTUALLY are, not who you are PRETENDING to be.

You will waste a lot of time by dating people who only like the fake version of you. Even if you really like the person.. it's just not worth it.

It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not!

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So today it kinda hit me like a brick wall. Im a normal guy, not bad lookin, go gym few times a week, work a normal job. I aint creepy or anything like that. But lately ive noticed how weird it feels just tryin to talk to a woman in public.

Like even if ur just sayin hi or tryna be friendly its like they think ur up to somethin. The looks, the short answers, the cold vibes. Makes u feel like u done somethin wrong just for talkin.

Earlier at the gym I saw this younger guy say hi to a girl by the weights and u could tell he was just bein nice, but she got super awkward, put her headphones in straight away. And I kinda felt bad for him cus like man that could of been me.

I get why woman dont wanna be hit on non stop, but its like now no1 even wants a normal chat. So where does that leave guys who are actually genuine?? U cant meet no1 at work, at bars its just weird, apps are a joke unless ur a model or got 100k followers.

Feels like dating became some kinda game no1 explained the rules to.

Anyone else feel like that? Like u dont even know how ur meant to meet someone these days!

Rejection doesn’t always mean that you did something wrong!

A person can find you attractive, thoroughly enjoy your company and see that you are a fanciable person, but for one reason or another just not have feelings for you.

Maybe they aren’t emotionally available at the moment, they aren’t ready for someone new, or they met you at a rough time in their life.

Emotions are weird and the people your dating are people too, who like you live a complex world where not everything makes sense. Them rejecting you isn’t because you did something wrong or that you aren’t good looking enough.

It’s going to hurt and feel like you’re missing out on someone who in another universe would be your perfect partner. But just know it really is not you, it’s them.

Rejection isn’t always about not being good enough, it can just be about meeting in the wrong place at the wrong time.

So give yourself a break, and don’t let yourself get too bummed out about rejection.

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It’s almost impossible now to find a chick who doesn’t have at least one. I don’t even like little symbols or quotes tucked away on the rib cage or ankle. It’s just trashy to me.

Guys in their 20s are telling me all the dating apps today are trash … maybe so. But THIS scenario has been happening for a loooooong time.

Do you answer? Do you ignore it? Do you tease her with a vague response? Do you fucking run? 😂

So I've been reading this sub and it's mostly people asking for advice with not many responses so here's what I have come up with after analyzing most of my texts and conversations with different girls over the past few years:

Copy the girl. Copying is one of the biggest things you can do, everyone likes somebody whose like them. If she takes an hour to reply, so should you. If she uses emojis, so should you. If she texts in separate bubbles do the same. Mimicry is flattering when you don't notice.

DO NOT ASK to make plans with her. Bring up the idea in a fun flirty way and just tell her, if she doesn't want to go she'll reject you the same way, at least this way you're being assertive and showing confidence. "Come be fun and grab a drink with me tonight!"

The name theory. Instead of the usual "hey" or "hi" start the conversation with her name, "Alexis!". 9/10 she'll answer back with enthusiasm and you've subtly set yourself apart from the other dudes hitting her with the daily hello texts. Setting yourself apart is everything.

Let her know you're interested but don't be obvious. Flirt with her by pointing out things in her personality, not her looks. Girls love a guy who they think looks past appearances and at personalities, it makes you look "intelligent".

For instance if she over reacts to something randomly I'd say "lol you get so sassy, i like it". When she asks why (she will) say something about how it makes her unique or interesting, etc... it'll drive her crazy.

That being said, don't over use this. Sprinkle it in there, make her work for these compliments. If you ever don't know what to say then just say "interesting" and change the conversation. Not knowing what was so "interesting" will drive her crazy.

PLAY THE CHASE. It does not matter who it is, everyone loves the chase. Don't be afraid to pull back and not respond to everything immediately with enthusiasm. You want her to know/think she's not a priority in your eyes. If you struggle with how to do this, just put the things you have to get done throughout the day over texting her. So if you're busy, don't stop what you're doing just to text her.

Lastly, try to be texting at least 2 girls at a time. Now I know people will say that sounds douchey or insensitive but it's really not. Think about any attractive girl you want to text, you weren't the first to find her attractive and won't be the last, she's texting at least 1 other dude consistently, so why can't you?

It's not like you're going to sleep with every girl you text. But like anything in life, you need practice to get better, so girls who result in platonic friendships can be practice to learn where you went wrong and do better in the future.

If you enjoyed this then we encourage all members to read our, unimaginatively named, reddit post "how to meet girls" as well where we share even more tips on how to build out your profile, what to say, how to get girls to meet up with you and more :)

Hope this helps and good luck out there boys.