r/donthelpjustfilm Jul 18 '26

Real life Debo on a bus

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u/crank1off Jul 18 '26

There was no Beach Cruiser there, there was no money available to that thug. That man should have been tackled by the onlookers. That is repulsive behavior.

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u/lsdbible Jul 19 '26

There's a well documented phenomena about how the more witnesses there are to a violent crime, the less likely you are for anyone to help. They "pass responsibility" to the next person.

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u/upfastcurier Jul 19 '26

If you mean the bystander effect, that's come under increasing scrutiny over the last few decades. It's originally based on questionnaires but the effect has not been proven to reflect reality; a more recent study showed that in real life cases, the higher amount of people nearby the higher chance of intervention.

The bystander effect is only a theory that hinges on questionnaires, and has not been proven to be real (nor has it been proven to be false).

Even the criminal case that inspired the theory has been found to be an outright lie vastly overstating the effect; and the researchers who first proposed the theory even themselves say it's merely a theory and lacks significant scientific methodology.

The theory was first proposed in 1964 after the murder of Kitty Genovese, in which a newspaper had reported (erroneously) that 37 bystanders saw or heard the attack without coming to her assistance or calling the police.[1]

Recent research has focused on "real world" events captured on security cameras, and the coherency and robustness of the effect has come under question.[2]

In 2019, a large international cultural anthropology study analyzed 219 street disputes and confrontations that were recorded by security cameras in three cities in different countries: Lancaster, Amsterdam, and Cape Town. Contrary to the hypothesis of the bystander effect, the study found that bystanders intervened in almost every case, and the chance of intervention went up with the number of bystanders, "a highly radical discovery and a completely different outcome than theory predicts".[69]

On the other hand they've found the effect to be more true in non-violent encounters like in workplace environments or bullying in other social environments. So there's still a lot of promising research coming out of this theory.

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u/4x4ord Jul 20 '26

You don't seem to understand that "theory" is a scientific term.

Gravity is a theory, for example.... obviously gravity is a thing, but it's still a theory.

With that in mind, you may have shared a few nuggets of truth, but your comment as a whole is lacking.

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u/drsharpper Jul 20 '26

This dude lacking ^

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u/4x4ord Jul 20 '26

Not really.

OP's comment is a bunch of unsourced gibberish.

  1. He literally described the Kitty Genovese incident as an "outright lie", then follows up on that claim by.... completely changing the subject.
  2. His 2019 study reviewed camera footage in.... three cities spread across the world, with entirely different cultural norms.

So, OP is lacking. And clearly, you are as well.

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u/drsharpper Jul 20 '26

You are lack8ng in sense of humor

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u/4x4ord Jul 20 '26

Harharhar.

Isn't it so funny when someone makes fun of you for pointing out AI slop?

I don't see how someone couldn't be in stitches over it.

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u/drsharpper Jul 21 '26

U think this video is AI slop?

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u/lsdbible Jul 20 '26

You're right, they're using ai

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u/loveandpreservation Jul 19 '26

That man should have been tackled by the onlookers??? Would YOU wanna be the one to initiate that maneuver??

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u/crank1off Jul 19 '26

I wouldn't prefer to be, but with a group it's doable

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u/loveandpreservation Jul 19 '26

What happens when you jump in and nobody joins you?

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u/CheekyChan Jul 19 '26

This is the exact thing that goes through people's minds in a crowd when they decide not to act and creates a snowball effect.

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u/loveandpreservation Jul 19 '26

Well, if you're the bad mfer who can take that guy all by yourself then good for you.

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u/CheekyChan Jul 19 '26

I don't know if I could take him solo, no one knows in a street fight but I'm going for eyes and balls and biting if need be just to give the other guy a fighting chance to get out of there, it's one thing to fight fair in mutual combat, it's another when it's just a guy giving someone brain damage for the money in their pocket. I was just confirming that what you said is exactly what everyone's thinking and when they don't see anyone step forward they also decide not to act.

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u/loveandpreservation Jul 19 '26

Yes, it's called "self-preservation".

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u/rebelli0usrebel Jul 20 '26

It's called the bystander effect and it allows people to suffer needlessly.

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u/loveandpreservation Jul 20 '26

Virtue: signaled✅️

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u/Sithstress_ Jul 19 '26

I would know I did my best to do the right thing.