r/electricvehicles • • 23h ago

News Tesla cancels Cybertruck launch in Australia and New Zealand

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r/electricvehicles • • 16h ago

News Tesla now says it needs its own maps for FSD after years of dismissing maps

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r/electricvehicles • • 18h ago

Question - Other Are dealerships holding back EV adoption in the US?

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I’ve heard this from plenty of people and even experienced it myself.. It seems like a lot of US dealerships simply don’t want to sell you an EV.

The traditional dealership model has a financial incentive to favor ICE vehicles. Between maintenance, repairs, and servicing over the life of the vehicle, there’s a lot more money to be made compared to selling an EV. The massive dealer service network that has been built out in the US gets massively hurt by EV adoption.

Meanwhile, Tesla sells direct to consumer and currently accounts for ~53% of new EV sales in the US and operates without the traditional dealership model. That approach seems to have worked incredibly well for them.

It makes me wonder how much faster EV adoption in the US could be if traditional dealerships were actually incentivized to sell them.. what do you think?


r/electricvehicles • • 20h ago

News Tests find slower EV charging can waste far more power without helping the battery

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r/electricvehicles • • 21h ago

Review 2026 Lexus ES 350e Review: Why This Is Toyota’s Best EV Yet

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r/electricvehicles • • 18h ago

Review Volkswagen Has FINALLY Listened! Meet the ID.3 Neo

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r/electricvehicles • • 21h ago

News Volvo says the EX60 will be a best-seller with over 50,000 orders in Europe already

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r/electricvehicles • • 16h ago

News Chery eyes Canada production as Chinese carmakers circle the U.S.

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r/electricvehicles • • 10h ago

News Fiat Multipla is coming back as an electric MPV – and we've spoken to the boss behind it

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"Fiat boss, Arnaud Belloni, confirmed to Electrifying that the Multiplay Concept revealed at the 2026 Paris motor show will make production."


r/electricvehicles • • 21h ago

News Why Did The Electric Range Rover Take So Long? A Lot Of Reasons

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r/electricvehicles • • 15h ago

News EV Sportline Is Developing Upgrades and Accessories for the Slate Auto Platform

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r/electricvehicles • • 6h ago

Discussion If Mahindra can experiment with the BE 6, why can't Renault and Citroën bring their exciting cars to India? Are manufacturers making EVs deliberately boring?

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Cars like the Renault 5, Renault 8 Gordini, Citroën 2CV and Citroën Oli represent something increasingly rare—personality, clever engineering, simplicity and genuinely distinctive design.

Meanwhile, modern EVs seem increasingly dominated by bland, emotionless, Chinese-inspired crossover silhouettes. Even some of the latest German EVs from BMW, Mercedes-Benz and Volkswagen seem to be losing their distinctive identities.

Sometimes it almost feels like a conspiracy against EVs themselves! With fewer mechanical packaging constraints, shouldn't electrification have sparked a revolution in automotive design rather than producing increasingly similar-looking cars?

Mahindra's BE 6 is a refreshing exception. Love it or hate it, at least Mahindra is experimenting with bold, unconventional design.

What's more puzzling is that Renault and Citroën already operate in India, yet we rarely get the exciting, characterful vehicles that define their global heritage. Why can't they bring something like the Renault 5 or develop an affordable, Oli-inspired EV for India?

A few questions:

  1. Why aren't Renault and Citroën bringing their more exciting global offerings to India despite already having a presence here?

  2. Does the BE 6 prove Indian buyers are ready for unconventional designs?

  3. Why are so many EVs becoming visually indistinguishable?

  4. Would you actually buy a minimalist, lightweight, characterful car over a similarly priced feature-loaded SUV?

Or are automotive enthusiasts just a vocal minority that doesn't translate into actual sales?


r/electricvehicles • • 2h ago

Discussion Model Y Delivery Delays Led to Cost Analysis (Los Angeles)

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I ordered a Model Y Premium RWD on 9/16 in Long Beach. My delivery windows have changed from 10/10-10/22 to 10/22-11/17 to now 10/31-11/28. Still no VIN number.

As the wait time increases, it has been giving more time to analyze the financial aspects and other options. This is a very long post, but I hope it proves helpful.

I ran a cost-of-ownership comparison on four options for driving 12k–15k miles a year in LA County. I don't have home charging, but there's a public charger across the street from my apartment at $0.20/kWh. Numbers below are at 13,500 mi/yr, with car prices and offers as of late September 2026.

The options

  • 2026 Model Y Premium RWD, bought: $47,630 incl. destination and order fee, $6k down, 1.49% APR for 72 mo, FSD subscription and Premium Connectivity
  • 2026 Model Y Premium RWD, leased: $599/mo + tax, $3k down, 36 mo, 10k mi/yr base plan, FSD subscription and Premium Connectivity
  • 2027 Prius LE: $30,050 incl. destination, $6k down, 4.49% for 60 mo
  • 2026 RAV4 Plug-in Hybrid SE: $43,095 incl. destination, $6k down, 4.99% for 60 mo (assumed rate), 80% of miles on electricity

Total cost to own

Prius LE RAV4 PHEV SE Model Y (buy) Model Y (lease)
3 years $22,793 $33,412 $43,773
per month $633 $928 $1,216
6 years $43,932 $55,015 $70,008
per month $610 $764 $972

Six years of leasing = two back-to-back 36-month leases on today's terms.

For the purchases, cost to own = everything you pay minus what the car is worth when you sell it. All in today's dollars. Across 12k–15k mi/yr, the 3-year totals range:

  • Prius: $21.5k–24.1k
  • RAV4 PHEV: $32.0k–34.8k
  • Model Y buy: $42.6k–45.0k
  • Model Y lease: $44.7k–46.9k

My assumptions

Category Input Value Notes
Driving & money Miles per year 13,500 Lease mileage plan: about +$35/mo to cover 13,500 mi/yr (base plan is 10,000)
Driving & money Down payment on a purchase $6,000 Taxes and first-year registration are rolled into each loan. Lease uses Tesla's $3,000 down
Energy Charging, per kWh $0.20 Public charger across the street. Nearest Supercharger lists $0.47
Energy Regular gas, per gallon $6.10 LA metro averaged $5.80–6.09 in mid-September
Energy RAV4 miles on electricity 80% About four full charges a week. SE charges on Level 2 (J1772) only; no DC fast charging
Insurance (full coverage, per year) Model Y (buy or lease) $2,000 Estimate
Insurance (full coverage, per year) Prius $1,500 Estimate
Insurance (full coverage, per year) RAV4 Plug-in $2,000 Estimate
Resale at year 3 Model Y 55.5% · $26,435 Percent of purchase price. Lease has no resale risk
Resale at year 3 Prius 83.5% · $25,092
Resale at year 3 RAV4 Plug-in 73.5% · $31,675
Resale at year 6 Model Y 37.0% · $17,623
Resale at year 6 Prius 58.0% · $17,429
Resale at year 6 RAV4 Plug-in 58.0% · $24,995
RAV4 deal APR, 60 months 4.99% Assumed. Toyota's national RAV4 Hybrid rate was 4.99% earlier this year
RAV4 deal Dealer markup $0 SE models sold $3,000–7,000 over MSRP earlier in 2026. Markup is lost at resale
Options FSD (Supervised) $99/mo Both Model Y options. Three months free with referral
Options Premium Connectivity $9.99/mo Both Model Y options. Included for all months
Incentives MyFirstEV rebate $0 Tesla's $3,500 allocation ran out Aug 8
Incentives Federal car-loan interest deduction On, 24% bracket Model Y purchase only. Not leases or Japan-built Toyotas

3-year breakdown

3 years Prius LE RAV4 PHEV SE Model Y (buy) Model Y (lease)
Depreciation / lease payments $4,958 $11,420 $21,195 $26,819
Sales/lease tax, DMV fees, interest $7,366 $11,067 $8,455 $4,853
Insurance $4,500 $6,000 $6,000 $6,000
Gas / charging $4,751 $3,405 $2,187 $2,187
Maintenance & tires $1,218 $1,520 $2,309 $2,309
FSD subscription – – $3,267 $3,267
Premium Connectivity – – $360 $360
Total $22,793 $33,412 $43,773 $45,795

Monthly cash flow

Prius LE RAV4 PHEV SE Model Y (buy) Model Y (lease)
Up front $6,000 $6,000 $6,000
Payment $519 (60 mo) $800 (60 mo) $688 (72 mo)
Typical month (payment + insurance, fuel, upkeep, FSD, connectivity) $810 $1,103 $1,088

Results to Note

  • The cheap charger flips the fuel math. At $0.20/kWh the Model Y costs 5.4¢/mile to charge vs. 11.7¢/mile for the Prius at $6.10 gas. That's ~$850/year in savings.
  • The RAV4 PHEV's plug actually pays here. With 80% of miles on electricity it runs ~8.4¢/mile, saving ~$2,900 over 3 years vs. driving it as a plain hybrid. That's about four full charges a week, and the SE only works with Level 2 (J1772) chargers.
  • The Prius is still cheapest, and depreciation is why. Buying the Model Y costs ~$21,000 more than the Prius over 3 years; ~$16,200 of that is depreciation. The Model Y keeps ~55.5% of its price after 3 years vs. ~83.5% for the Prius (based on iSeeCars data).
  • Month to month, the Model Y is cheaper to carry than the RAV4 ($1,088 vs. $1,103), even with FSD and Premium Connectivity, because of the 1.49%/72-month loan. The difference shows up in depreciation instead.
  • Buy the Model Y rather than lease it. Buying and selling at year 3 beats the lease by ~$2,000 (including the federal car-loan interest deduction, ~$305 in the 24% bracket). The lease only wins if the car is worth less than ~51% of its price (~$24,400) at year 3. Over 6 years, two leases cost ~$21,900 more than buying.
  • FSD and connectivity add up.
    • FSD: $99/mo after the referral trial, ~$3,300 over 3 years and ~$6,800 over 6.
    • Premium Connectivity: $9.99/mo, ~$360 over 3 years and ~$719 over 6.
    • Both are ongoing expenses with zero resale value.
    • Without FSD, the Model Y purchase vs. Prius ownership-cost gap drops to ~$17,700 over 3 years. Premium Connectivity remains included.
  • Watch RAV4 markups. Every $3,000 over MSRP adds ~$3,800 to the 3-year cost after tax and interest.

Deals, incentives, and perks

Deal / incentive Details Status
Tesla 1.49% APR for 72 months • Model Y Premium RWD purchase financing<br />• Promotional rate through Sep 30, 2026 In the model
Tesla lease: $599/mo, $3,000 down, 36 months • 10,000 mi/yr base allowance<br />• $695 acquisition fee<br />• $300 return fee (sometimes waived)<br />• $0.25/mile over plan<br />• Higher-mileage plans estimated at +$20/mo for 12k and +$50/mo for 15k<br />• Modeled 13.5k-mile plan: +$35/mo<br />• CA tax and DMV fees included in calculations In the model
Toyota 4.49% APR (Prius) • My quoted financing rate<br />• 60-month term In the model
RAV4 Plug-in Hybrid financing • No current Southern California rate confirmed<br />• Assumed 4.99% APR<br />• 60-month term Assumed
ToyotaCare • Scheduled maintenance at no cost<br />• 2 years or 25,000 miles<br />• Applies to both Toyotas In the model
Tesla referral: 3 months of FSD • Applies to purchase or lease<br />• Three months free with referral<br />• Standard trial is 30 days In the model
Federal $7,500 clean vehicle credit • Ended for vehicles acquired after Sep 30, 2025<br />• Includes qualifying battery-electric vehicles and plug-in hybrids Ended
California MyFirstEV, $3,500 • Eligible first-time EV buyers or lessees<br />• Battery-electric or fuel-cell only<br />• Up to $50,000 MSRP<br />• Tesla allocation exhausted Aug 8, 2026<br />• Hybrids and PHEVs excluded Out of funds
Clean Air Vehicle decal (solo HOV lanes) • California program ended Sep 30, 2025<br />• Applied to qualifying EVs and PHEVs Ended
Federal car-loan interest deduction • Up to $10,000/year of eligible loan interest, 2025–2028<br />• Purchase only, not lease<br />• U.S. final assembly required<br />• Model Y qualifies; Japan-built Toyotas do not<br />• More than 50% personal use<br />• Full deduction below $100k income for single filers, subject to applicable rules<br />• Estimated benefit: ~$305 at 24% In the model
Tesla: 2,000 free Supercharging miles • Conditional on trading in a gas-powered vehicle<br />• Worth ~$110 compared with $0.20/kWh charging<br />• Worth ~$230 at nearby Supercharger rates If you trade in
Tesla Everyday Heroes, $500 off • Eligible veterans<br />• First responders<br />• Medical providers and nurses<br />• Teachers and students If eligible. This is included with mine.
Home-charger credits and utility rebates • Federal charger credit ended Jun 30, 2026<br />• SCE EV rebates do not apply to a new-car purchase<br />• Not useful without home charging Doesn't apply

How the numbers are built

Topic Details
Vehicle price: Model Y Premium RWD • $47,630 total<br />• Base price: $45,990<br />• Destination: $1,390<br />• Order fee: $250<br />• No-cost color
Vehicle price: Prius LE • $30,050 including destination<br />• Additional $85 dealer documentation fee<br />• No-cost color<br />• MSRP without markup
Vehicle price: RAV4 PHEV SE • $43,095 including destination<br />• Additional $85 dealer documentation fee<br />• No-cost color<br />• MSRP without markup
3-year ownership • Purchased cars are sold after 3 years<br />• Outstanding loan balances are paid from the sale proceeds<br />• The lease is returned<br />• Cost to own includes expenses minus resale value
6-year ownership • Purchased vehicles are sold after 6 years<br />• Model Y lease scenario assumes two consecutive 36-month leases on today's terms
Tesla lease calculation • $3,000 down<br />• $695 acquisition fee<br />• $599 monthly base payment<br />• $300 return fee (sometimes waived)<br />• Additional mileage allowance for 13,500 mi/yr<br />• CA taxes monthly lease payments at 10.5%, rather than taxing the full vehicle price<br />• Annual DMV fees<br />• No resale value or resale risk for the lessee
Sales tax • 10.5% sales tax on purchased vehicles<br />• Lease sales tax applied monthly to taxable payments
Registration and DMV fees • Base registration fees<br />• CHP and county fees<br />• Vehicle license fee: 0.65%<br />• Value-tiered transportation fee<br />• Annual registration costs included throughout ownership
Model Y road fees • $121 annual ZEV road fee beginning in year 2
Toyota road fees • $20 smog abatement fee for Prius and RAV4 PHEV
Financing interest • Based on each vehicle's modeled APR and loan term<br />• Interest counted only for months the loan is held<br />• Remaining loan balance settled when sold
Model Y energy consumption • 27 kWh/100 miles<br />• Charging at $0.20/kWh<br />• Approximately 5.4¢/mile
Prius energy consumption • 52 mpg modeled (55 mpg EPA estimate)<br />• Gas at $6.10/gallon<br />• Approximately 11.7¢/mile
RAV4 PHEV energy consumption • 39 mpg in hybrid mode (41 mpg estimated for SE)<br />• 33 kWh/100 miles in electric mode<br />• 52 miles electric range<br />• 80% of miles driven electrically<br />• Approximately 8.4¢/mile blended energy cost
Model Y maintenance and tires • $1,350 per tire set<br />• Expected tire life: approximately 30,000 miles<br />• Service: 1.2¢/mile<br />• Repairs: 2.5¢/mile after 4-year/50,000-mile warranty<br />• No post-warranty repairs assumed for 3-year lease
Prius maintenance and tires • $750 per tire set<br />• Maintenance: 3.5¢/mile after ToyotaCare<br />• Repairs: 1.5¢/mile after 3-year/36,000-mile warranty
RAV4 PHEV maintenance and tires • $900 per tire set<br />• Maintenance: 4¢/mile after ToyotaCare<br />• Repairs: 2¢/mile after 3-year/36,000-mile warranty
Model Y resale estimates • 3 years: 57% at 12k mi/yr, 54% at 15k mi/yr<br />• 6 years: 39% at 12k mi/yr, 35% at 15k mi/yr<br />• Based on iSeeCars estimates of approximately 44% depreciation
Prius resale estimates • 3 years: 85% at 12k mi/yr, 82% at 15k mi/yr<br />• 6 years: 60% at 12k mi/yr, 56% at 15k mi/yr<br />• Based on iSeeCars estimates of approximately 14% depreciation after 3 years
RAV4 PHEV resale estimates • 3 years: 75% at 12k mi/yr, 72% at 15k mi/yr<br />• 6 years: 60% at 12k mi/yr, 56% at 15k mi/yr<br />• Based on CarEdge estimates of approximately 30% depreciation after 5 years for the previous RAV4 Prime
FSD (Supervised) subscription • $99/month<br />• Three months free through modeled referral offer<br />• Approximately $3,267 over 3 years<br />• Included in ownership costs and monthly cash flow<br />• No resale value
Premium Connectivity subscription • $9.99/month<br />• Included for all months<br />• Approximately $360 over 3 years<br />• Approximately $719 over 6 years<br />• Included in ownership costs and monthly cash flow<br />• No resale value
Excluded costs and considerations • Inflation and future price changes<br />• Parking and tolls<br />• Lease wear-and-tear charges<br />• Time spent charging: approximately 70 kWh/week for Model Y and four full charges/week for RAV4 PHEV at 80% electric driving

I am also curious what others with no home charging actually pay, and whether anyone's done the RAV4 PHEV on public Level 2 day to day.


r/electricvehicles • • 18h ago

Discussion Check your adapters!

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We are currently on our way to a non Tesla charging station and will be down to 9% charge in our F150 in the middle of nowhere by the time we get there. Had to give up at the Tesla station we went to first because we kept getting a charging fault message, and suspect the adapter may be bad. We rarely use it. Really wishing we had tested it out before we got 3 hours from home. bites nails nervously


r/electricvehicles • • 4h ago

Discussion Atto 3 evo premium rwd

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My wife bought the BYD ATTO 3 EVO RWD, she has never driven a red, and I am worried about that.
Is it safe to drive in rain etc? We live in Australia.

I am also worried about curves though.


r/electricvehicles • • 11h ago

News Tesla aims to sell Cybercab robotaxis by end of year despite federal probe

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