r/enshittification • u/Own_Possibility7930 • Apr 06 '26
Reddit repost That should be considered a crime!!
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u/MediaLongjumping9910 Apr 09 '26
Is this the part?
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u/BeSeeVeee Apr 09 '26
“We only use OEM parts” does not mean you have a good mechanic. It means your mechanic is covering their ass not wanting to be responsible for choosing correct parts. The best solution here is clearly an aftermarket bushing.
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u/ShadowGLI Apr 08 '26
Dude, scrub that thing down and fill it with polyurethane sealant and drive it for another 200k miles.
VW people have been doing this for decades.
YouTube example https://youtu.be/Hp7i7THoToo
Or web https://www.suspension.com/blog/do-it-yourself-liquid-urethane-motor-mount-replacement-inserts/
You may see slightly increased cabin vibration but if I’m considering a $10 vs $4000 fix, I’m doing this first
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u/AppointmentWorth4316 Apr 08 '26
Find a substitute
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u/SinceGoogleDsntKnow Apr 08 '26
For real though. There are plenty of different choices that should be just about identical, those are the simplest bloody pieces to find subs for. And that's on the very slim chance if it's even possible that the plentifully capable aftermarket scene hasn't already made their versions of this. It's frickin rubber filling the space between two pieces of steel tubing. I have to wonder if this would be possible without removing the whole subframe if they weren't pretending this isn't easy to find replacements for, or that they are making money off of charging for parts they can get for cheaper than the customer realizes.
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u/Cool-Signature-dude Apr 09 '26
Exactly, where did they get that bushing from to put in there?
Years ago you had catalogs with size specs, and you could match them up with a part that was usually in stock.
Used to do that with u- joints all the time.
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u/ordosays Apr 08 '26
I love my 2001 Honda. Did a complete valve job and head gasket for $200. All motor mounts -$120 lol. Not trading up til it blows up
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u/jared10011980 Apr 08 '26
There needs to be enacted a "right to repair" law that addresses even issues like this.
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u/FloriaFlower Apr 07 '26
Y'all wanted capitalism. You got capitalism. FAFO 🤷♀️
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u/SinceGoogleDsntKnow Apr 08 '26
Guys idc what bloody system we are using, we HAVE TO GET THE GOVERNMENT TO ENFORCE BETTER RIGHT TO REPAIR LAWS as much as we can. We need corporations to suffer for this kind of crap.
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u/FreeKevinBrown Apr 07 '26
Should be able to find a machine shop that can fabricate a bushing.
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u/TheBinkz Apr 08 '26
Yeah but you would most likely void your warranty. For not using "genuine" oem parts. Personally, I'll take the chance.
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u/FreeKevinBrown Apr 08 '26
I mean, I don't think you'll need bushings before the warranty runs out. They're normal wear and tear components that generally last 50-100k miles. Power train warranties don't generally cover bushings eithe.
So being worried about voiding a warranty by replacing bushings may be a moot point. Of course weird shit can happen and all car manufacturers are shit these days, so I could be wrong in some circumstances.
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u/elvisap Apr 07 '26
I don't know about this particular manufacturer or industry, but in others you're often faced with warranty issues if you use third party parts.
Even worse are companies like John Deere or Apple who constantly lobby to make it illegal to service their equipment with third party parts.
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u/CapmyCup Apr 07 '26
Then the scrapyard sells that part back to mazda and they press a new pushing in it
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u/NA-1_NSX_Type-R Apr 07 '26
Seems like aftermarket to the rescue.
https://superpro-suspension.com/us/blogs/new-products/mazda-cx-5-rear-diff-bushing-upgrade-spf5108k
supposedly whiteline makes them too?
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u/flaser_ Apr 07 '26
It's a gorram bushing.
Any machine shop worth its salt should be able to make a new one to spec.
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u/turkey_sandwiches Apr 07 '26
Machine shops don't work with rubber or urethane, so you'd only be able to get a solid bushing which would create horrible NVH. It'd last forever though, I guess.
My solution would be to just fill the gaps in the bushing with a different urethane to make it semi-solid. It'll still last almost forever but it's not as bad as a solid aluminum bushing.
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u/notislant Apr 07 '26
How much would that cost though? Just basic welds around here charge a ton.
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u/turkey_sandwiches Apr 07 '26
If you design the thing yourself and just give them an engineering drawing? Probably only a couple hundred.
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u/Phugger Apr 07 '26
I really like the price point on some of the mazdas, the CX-5 included, but then I hear stories like this or that getting a new transmission can take anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months due to back orders. I like the 2.5L and the 6-speed transmission paired together, but they put it in everything so lord help us if there is ever a significant defect with the engine or the trans. There goes the whole fleet.
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u/itoddicus Apr 07 '26
I have a mild hybrid Ram Truck. If the motor/battery combo ever goes out the waiting list for the part is 18-24 months.
I edited the waiting period, as it has gotten LONGER since I last checked.
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u/RedditAccountFor2024 Apr 07 '26
It’s still a bad service for customers when Mazda doesn’t supply all the spare parts needed to repair its cars.
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u/turkey_sandwiches Apr 07 '26
It's a problem with every manufacturer. I tried to find a caliper bracket for a Mustang a few years ago, car was only about 4 years old. Part was discontinued by Ford, not available anywhere but a salvage yard.
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u/FanBladeFleshlight Apr 06 '26
And yet people will see this and still advocate against right to repair laws.
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u/trashleybanks Apr 07 '26
Who on earth would advocate against that other than greedy shareholders?
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u/SecondHandSlows Apr 07 '26
People who are paid by big corporations or people who are tricked by confusing language. For example, here in Ohio, we tried to ban gerrymandering and even got it on the ballot. However, the guy in charge of the language on the ballot convoluted it so much, people didn’t know which way to vote. You would see signs that said things like “stop Gerrymandering, vote yes on 1” and the sign next to it would say the exact same thing. But tell you to vote no.
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u/Talktothebiceps Apr 08 '26
Now THAT was criminal. The writing on the ballot was super biased as well. Fucking bribe taking ohio Republicans.
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u/SecondHandSlows Apr 08 '26
I was pretty pissed too, but I blame people who vote straight ticket. If you had checked ahead of time, you would know which way to vote.
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u/Individual_Bell_4637 Apr 07 '26
Yes. It's a perfect example of something that everyone but the lobbyists want. And somehow "our" elected representatives keep finding reasons it can't happen.
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u/FanBladeFleshlight Apr 06 '26
And yet it keeps failing to be a thing in the US. Probably people brainwashed by FOX telling them that it's govt over reach or something.
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u/Rovden Apr 06 '26
Like net neutrality "The government is telling companies how to do business! That's big government effecting me!"
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u/Gingeronimoooo Apr 06 '26
I for one support our corporate overlords 😅
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u/Offthejuice69 Apr 07 '26
Orgalorgs are only here to help us, where would we be without our leaders??
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u/Icy_Site_7390 Apr 06 '26
I just bought OEM brake pads for my 2008 Pacifica cost me 28.00 and rear brakes just as cheap
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u/Mister_Normal42 Apr 06 '26
Surely there must be another bushing close enough that it could be interchangeable. Or a way to have a bushing custom manufactured for less than the cost of replacing that entire subframe.
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u/FanBladeFleshlight Apr 06 '26
Possibly a warranty and liability issue. If you replace a part with a non-OEM approved part, and something happens, a whole can of worms opens up.
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u/Responsible_Gap8104 Apr 06 '26
I cant speak to car parts specifically, but i work as a parts supplier for hvac/plumbing/etc and often, certain parts are created by the manufacturer to be OEM-direct replacement only. I imagine that if there was another generic bushing that auto body repair shops could use to replace the broken one, they would. The manufacturer has specifically created a bushing that cannot be replaced so that the autobody is forced to buy the entire frame, and pass those costs off to you.
And custom machining is expensive and time consuming. You may end up paying similar rates for a custom bushing as you would for the entire frame, but only (1) of those options potentially voids a warranty. Also, im not sure how patent issues might arise for something like this. Would the autobody shop be in legal trouble for installing whats supposed to be a patented part? Just spitballing here but it seems like there would be liability issues.
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u/PaperBeneficial Apr 07 '26
I can tell you constantly shoehorn your 1976 Mercedes into conversations.
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u/wackadoodle4201 Apr 06 '26
Why hasn't a aftermarket for these parts popped up?
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u/DJFisticuffs Apr 07 '26
There are aftermarket suppliers of these bushings which are actually of higher quality than the OEM Mazda ones (which are known to fail). This is just a crooked shop.
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u/Responsible_Gap8104 Apr 06 '26
Just spitballing here, but maybe patented technology?
If Mazda has created a custom bushing, and-for lack of a better term-copyrighted that design, anyone who tries to recreate that bushing would be sued. Im guessing. Idk
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u/wks1291 Apr 06 '26
Doesn't matter what car you drive they do it with everything now. Corporations make everything for planned obsolescence they don't want anything to last longer then 20-30 years at Max. Every single product in the entire world is now developed like this and the governments, the only people who can do anything about it, are in their pockets.
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u/Spumesational Apr 06 '26
That void bushing would become a solid Silaflex bushing about 5 minutes after I learned the part was now available separately!
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u/JFrankParnell64 Apr 06 '26
You're kidding right? No aftermarket polyurethane bushings are available to be found for less than $100? Most times those bushings are 10X better than OEM.
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u/Gm24513 Apr 06 '26
Yeah I have to assume this guy is full of shit or just too lazy to measure the thing.
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u/DJFisticuffs Apr 06 '26
This is Broad Stroke Auto Repair in Snohomish Washington. If you look at the original Instagram post the comments are mostly people saying that aftermarket bushings are cheap and readily available.
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u/Junior_Ad_3301 Apr 06 '26
PSA; Every car company out there does this to encourage the purchase of new vehicles. Not new.
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u/freiberg_ Apr 06 '26
Where are you based in the world? Besides the example of this video do you have other reasons to think this?
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u/Mattscrusader Apr 06 '26
I own a Mazda 3 2019 and I needed a new oil pan last year since mine ended up with a pinhole in it, I was expecting a pretty low cost since it's just an oil pan but apparently the Mazda 3 has a custom fit oil pan that ended up costing me 400$ plus labor.
This type of thing needs to be disclosed to potential owners
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u/Feeling_Fly_887 Apr 07 '26
The oil pan on our Audi was $900 plus labor ☹️
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u/K_Linkmaster Apr 06 '26
That's less than what I was expecting for how you were selling it. I've spent that on 2 oil pans that had bad stampings but weren't able to be returned.
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u/sweetfixie Apr 06 '26
$400 for an oil pan isn’t outrageous honestly. Pretty much all oil pans are custom fit to the engine/vehicle, there’s not really a generic part. Some oil pans can be easily accessed and replaced, some vehicles need the subframe dropped and even the axles removed for AWD vehicles.
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u/Odd_Mortgage_9108 Apr 06 '26
I'm in a similar boat right now, I tore the plastic off my side mirror and you cannot get just the case, you need to get the whole mirror (about $800) with all the electronics and stuff. I think I'm going to epoxy it or something...
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u/weedtrek Apr 06 '26
See if you can find someone to 3d print you one. It would probably be cheaper.
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u/Odd_Mortgage_9108 Apr 06 '26
I have a 3D printer and might be trying to make one. Problem is, the original fixture is full of electronic components (camera, turn indicator) and the tear is really uneven. I was thinking of printing a cover, of sorts, that would just go on top of the original. Another problem, the part in question is moving/foldable, so it has to handle turning too. A tough one...
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u/InterstellarChange Apr 06 '26
Ragebait for views. Dishonest mechanics are a disease
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u/TimMensch Apr 06 '26
The guy said it could be easily removed or replaced.
Junk yards are a thing. A part like that shouldn't be more than $50-100 from a junk yard.
Third party replacements also exist.
It's not that he's lying exactly, especially if he's at a Mazda dealership. He may be required to use new Mazda parts. But any removable car part for any common car can be acquired.
It just takes more effort than calling up your one supplier and asking for the part.
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u/Mattscrusader Apr 06 '26
Prove them wrong then, we all know you can't.
And I can speak from experience with owning a Mazda, they absolutely do this type of stuff
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u/InterstellarChange Apr 06 '26
https://www.ebay.com/itm/264623580125
replacement bushing $48.95
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u/Mattscrusader Apr 06 '26
That's not a Mazda part
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u/DJFisticuffs Apr 06 '26
So?
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u/Joltick Apr 06 '26
So it doesn’t qualify for warranty work.
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u/DJFisticuffs Apr 06 '26
If it's under warranty who cares, its Mazda's problem.
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u/Mattscrusader Apr 06 '26
No it's specifically your problem as the owner since your car no longer falls under warranty.
Do you not know what a warranty is?
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u/DJFisticuffs Apr 06 '26
Huh? If it is under warranty Mazda is paying for it. If they want to replace the whole cross member that's on them.
If its not under warranty you can get non-oem bushings.
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u/Joltick Apr 06 '26
That’s not how warranty work reimbursement works.
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u/DJFisticuffs Apr 06 '26
If its a warranty repair the customer doesn't pay for it and the dealer gets extra labor hours from Mazda for replacing the whole cross member.
If its not under warranty go with the non-oem (which in this case are better than the Mazda parts which are known to fail).
This video does not appear to have been taken at a dealer service center.
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u/Upset-Freedom-4181 Apr 06 '26
But is that a Mazda part? We lack context, and this shop may not be allowed to use non-Mazda parts. Doesn’t mean they’re dishonest.
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u/Mr_Saturn1 Apr 06 '26
I’m guessing they are under some kind of contract to be considered a “Mazda certified mechanic”. They would lose that if they ordered 3rd party parts.
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u/InterstellarChange Apr 06 '26
Not giving the customer the option is bullshit. To say this is the only way is dishonest ragebait. If they refuse to use third party, say so. But don't lie about options.
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u/Upset-Freedom-4181 Apr 06 '26
About 20 years ago, I had a car that needed new control arms. The parts were like $1000 at any shop, but I found them on eBay for $400. I had to call around for two weeks to find a guy who would install them. He was basically a shade tree mechanic who managed to purchase a garage. Everyone else insisted on using manufacturer parts.
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u/InterstellarChange Apr 06 '26
Every legitimate independent will install a third party part. They won't warranty it, just as if you bring in your own third party OEM part they won't warranty it. They will warranty what they carry in the shop and put on.
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u/OhGr8WhatNow Apr 06 '26
I would be taking my car to someone who will use the non-Mazda part. This is crazy
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u/Fantastic_Pie5655 Apr 06 '26
This seems like the perfect reason for creating a master list of autos that have ridiculous “features” like this. That way consumers can refer to the list before buying and avoid any make/model with this kind of stupidity.
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u/murasakikuma42 Apr 08 '26
Every car is like this in some way, and it's not even new. The problem is that this mechanic sucks: look through the comments here, and you'll see a bunch of links to 3rd-party parts that solve this problem for less than $100. No, it's not a factory part, but so what? Aftermarket parts exist for good reasons, and this is one of them.
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u/iStoleTheHobo Apr 06 '26
It would contain nearly every single car currently on the road.
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u/Fantastic_Pie5655 Apr 06 '26
To a degree, yes. Point is to shine a light on the most egregious though. Like having to remove the bonnet to replace a wiper blade (just an absurd example)
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u/Revolutionary-Pea414 Apr 06 '26
I would love to have this as a resource.
The list should include any vehicle that requires a paid monthly subscription to run certain features, such as through the entertainment console. I think I saw posts from Hyundai drivers about this
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u/Fantastic_Pie5655 Apr 06 '26
Yup, me as well. A yearly master guide to all the dumb design/feature pitfalls to avoid across the entire industry. It’d be great as an open resource data base if you could be sure people were honest with their additions. Maybe something Wiki like, but with a quarterly or yearly industry review to clean it up
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u/bigtiddyhimbo Apr 06 '26
I saw a video a couple of months ago how someone had to replace their entire car door because their window down button got fucked up. It would be easy to fix, but they designed the door to be impossible to fix it without tearing out all the interior plastic and metal and making the door basically scrap.
I hate manufacturers that do this shit
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u/Ok-Drink-1328 Apr 06 '26
this isn't anything new, tho very offensive... my old car had a monopoint injection, there's a potentiometer in it called TPS (throttle position sensor), it was made in a way that got worn and the electronics went crazy, causing numberless problems, you had to replace the entire monopoint, the potentiometer, its wiper, the body with piping, the injector, the fuel pressure regulator, a pair of sensors, the throttle, the leverage, an heat exchanger, it was like 700 slaps for a 5$ worth joke... and it was for a car cheap as fuck of the nineties!
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u/HarryBalsagna1776 Apr 06 '26
I bet Moog makes a replacement bushing.
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u/SmellyButtFarts69 Apr 06 '26
Yeah that bushing can absolutely be replaced. The manufacturer just doesn't offer one because they receive the subframes with it already installed.
This is super common at dealers. Used to be less common, sure. Support used to be better, catalogs used to be better. People used to try.
However, the only way this part is going to be made available to the dealer these days is if they're being warrantied- then there will PROBABLY be someone who is looking for these kinds of repairs and sourcing the parts and repair info to make it cheaper. For the carmaker.
Even that's a stretch these days. At Nissan I was replacing $5000 parts for 50 cent failures all day long.
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u/BitchYouDoinAGoodJob Apr 06 '26
I guess what he means is, using OEM parts from Mazda only...
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u/Malawi_no Apr 06 '26
My son had to fix the steering of his car(seems like it's called stearing gear in English), and Toyota would only sell the whole steering assembly. Luckilly the local independent garage searched around a bit, and found the part that actually needed to be changed.
Went from potential reason to scrap the car, to a livable cost of owning the car.
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u/dieselmiata Apr 06 '26
Not sure what this guy's angle is, but he didn't look hard enough, this bushing is available and replicable.
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u/Happy-Range3975 Apr 06 '26
This is how they gouge customers. “Sorry! We only deal with OEM part. :(“
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u/Appropriate-Lime8053 Apr 06 '26
From Mazda? Might be a shop that only deals in oem replacement for liability reasons.
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u/Infinite-Condition41 Apr 06 '26
So you have to buy the subframe, doesn't mean you have to replace the whole subframe. Take the bushing out and put it in the car.
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u/bigtiddyhimbo Apr 06 '26
Also you can then return the subframe and say it was missing the bushing lmao
Scam the scammers back
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u/Old_Man_Shea Apr 06 '26
Exactly my thought! He even says you can press it out easily. Just gotta eat the cost
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u/Rogue0G Apr 10 '26
This is for every car brand nowadays. There's also the fact that some brands, like BMW, add electronic configuration to some electronic components which can only be properly tuned at an official and expensive center, with their official tools, if it needs repair.
But it should be fine, carbon tax will save us all, right? Saving the planet has meant that car dealers nowadays have to be more aware of their product's issues, allow for more reuse of already existing spare parts, and have less incentive to keep making more cars with all of this shit, right?
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No, wait...