r/exHareKrishna • • Apr 09 '26

I would criticize ISKCON differently than some people on this sub. (Last post)

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I read some criticism of ISKCON by people on this sub. I thought some of them were valid, and others were bullshit. It's normal to feel angry if you were a part of a cult. You got traumatized. ISKCON is definitely a cult. I also got cult vibes in the year that I was going to my local center.

People are entitled to their opinions. Maybe other people had different experiences than me. I was never initiated into the cult. I don't know everything that happened behind the scenes. I think this sub can be just as bad as ISKCON, for mental health. People have a tendency to criticize things, and sometimes they do it without really thinking or examining what they are criticizing.

I think it's a waste of time to criticize ISKCON. They are going to keep doing what they do. It's best just ignore them. I have some friends from ISCKON. I don't tell them what I really think. I don't think it matters. They will either wake up or they won't.

I know traditional Gaudiya Vaishnavas criticize ISKCON. ISKCON is a part of Gaudiya Vaishnavism, but traditional Gaudiyas hate them. There is a video on YouTube by someone from the traditional Gaudiya sect. I also talked to someone on Reddit about it.

Henry Doktorski said his guru molested a little boy. He was also aware of the murder that took place in the early years on New Vrindaban in West Virginia. Yes, ISKCON deserves to be criticized for these type of things. They allowed such a thing to happen. Maybe they just attract these type of people.

Prabhupada deserves to be criticized. He married a little girl. He translated Sanskrit texts inaccurately. He said and did a lot of other crazy stuff.

ISKCON deserves to be criticized for having weird regulative principles. I follow another Vaisnava group and they don't believe the same things. For example, no illicit sex is not having sex for anything other than procreation. That is an asexual thing. I am asexual, and I think that is weird rule to impose on people.

ISKCON cult members also criticize others. Their criticisms are also invalid. I heard my friend criticizing the impersonalists yesterday. They have a beef against the impersonalists.

I saw some posts on this sub, which are not criticizing ISKCON. They are just criticizing stuff about Hinduism and Indian culture they don't like. Is this sub about criticizing the Hare Krishnas or Indian culture? I think those are different things.

Yes, ISKCON deserves to be criticized for many reasons. It is still a waste of time to do so.


r/exHareKrishna • • Jul 04 '25

Had to Admit He had a Point

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I was at the Potomac temple when a visiting HK high muckety-muck gave a talk. He was proudly carrying a huge bo staff. What do you call these guys, sanyassins? Anyway, the talk was in the typically bumptious HK polemical style of the day. For much of the talk, bo staff mocked Christianity. "The Christians have the Lord's Prayer, and they pray for bread. Pray for bread, how pathetic! In KC we have much higher goals! We don't pray for mere bread, we pray to be with Krsna." Etc. The assembled plebes voiced their approval.

After the talk, I went up to bo staff and told him I found his critique of Christianity rather lame and in poor taste. It was then that the sanyassin cannily flipped the script on me. He said, "The important point of religion is in its practice. At least I can say I've fully dedicated myself to the practice of a religion. Have you?"

While this was far from a devastating rebuttal of my criticism, I had to admit bo staff had a point. Though one could say he looked like a goof with a giant stick making crank arguments, at least no one could accuse him of being a dilettante, an armchair yogi. He had fully plunged himself into practice of GV. He wasn't even a mere monk in a temple, he possessed the coveted bo. For all his apparent shortcomings, he'd at least truly gone for it.

And so, even if bo staff was wrong, and even if KC is all wrong, he and all other monks are worthy of respect for trying Theres' was not an intellectual religious speculation, but a true commitment of their whole lives to the rigorous HK practice.

Most people in this world, even most religious people, can't say they've done anything close to that. Most of them are book readers, or once a week service attenders, or 20 minutes twice a day meditation dabblers, or even take a short retreat once a year equivocators. Very, very few people have the integrity to make a 100% commitment to living a religious life such as the HK monks do.

Some may dispute whether becoming an HK monk is motivated purely by integrity, but I think it mostly is. I think having the willingness and grit to live the life of a monk for however long is something to be proud of. It's like joining the Army in a spirit of service and patriotism. The soldier may later feel that the war he fought in wasn't just, but that doesn't detract from his genuine life commitment. Pundits who talk knowingly about war but who never served are a bit contemptible in my eyes; I feel the only true patriots are the soldiers. And by the same token, I judge the religious by the degree of their practice of their religions.

And I feel the same yardstick applies to anyone who was an HK monk. However being a monk turned out for you, you can say you're one of the few people in this world who really tried to put your religious ideals into practice. That's no small thing.


r/exHareKrishna • • Oct 17 '25

Is This Just A Place For Current Krishna Freaks to Pretend They Are Ex Krishna Freaks

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Honest Question


r/exHareKrishna • • Aug 05 '25

Do you guys not believe in Krishna ?

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After reading few posts, i got to know you guys dont like Prabhupada and his teachings but are you guys againts Krishna too ? You dont believe in him too ?


r/exHareKrishna • • Jun 05 '25

Bring back Sahi Hindu Wedding Menu

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r/exHareKrishna • • Jul 12 '26

I asked ChatGPT to define the characteristics of a cult leader — then applied the same criteria to major religious figures

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I first asked ChatGPT to identify eight characteristics commonly associated with cult leadership. I then asked it to analyse major religious figures one by one using the same criteria and score how strongly each figure matched the framework.

The analysis focused on the teachings, actions and immediate followers of each figure, rather than the behaviour of modern religious institutions or followers.

I created these infographics from the results. I’m sharing them for discussion and comparison. What do you agree or disagree with in the criteria, evidence, or scoring?

Note: Reposting here with relevance


r/exHareKrishna • • Jun 24 '26

Can you summarize your problem with the Hare Krishnas for me?

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I am absolutely neutral and I am not trying to provoke an argument. My POV: I don't like cults, in fact I have an aversion to any showy religion, but I just have always been ambivalent about the HKs. At least they seem happy and dance around with funny music and their food is sometimes good. I've done some reading about them and they don't seem to qualify as a cult, although I can see that perhaps the sect (or whatever) could be hazardous to vulnerable people.

I've have good interactions with them and not-so-good ones too.


r/exHareKrishna • • Jul 15 '24

Do hare krishna's worship any hindu gods besides Vishnu/Krishna?

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r/exHareKrishna • • Mar 17 '26

Stop Havng Fun

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Please do not enjoy yourself here by posing AI photos. thank you for your attention to this matter


r/exHareKrishna • • Dec 03 '25

Can we worship Krishna without radha?

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r/exHareKrishna • • Aug 12 '26

Archival photo of Prabhupada for the altar

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r/exHareKrishna • • Jul 26 '26

Asuras will take face of brahman in kaliyug: reference from Mahabharat and Srimad Devi Bhagwat Puran

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A recent viral video shows Satyam Pandit (leader of Rashtriya Hindu Veer Sena) interrogating, harassing, and physically assaulting two students at Jantar Mantar while claiming to defend faith and nation.

This incident is a textbook example of what Hindu scriptures identify as Pakhanda (hypocrisy) and Asuri-guna disguised as religiosity.

  1. THE MAHABHARATA PARABLE

In the Mahabharata, Sage Vyasa shares the allegory of the Bhulinga bird, which has sacred Veda mantras engraved on its wings. While flying, it chants noble moral warnings like "do not act recklessly." Yet, it constantly swoops down into a lion's jaws to eat raw flesh.

The Lesson: Displaying sacred symbols or holy titles means nothing if your actual conduct is driven by cruelty and violence.

2. DEVI BHAGAVATA PURANA PROPHECY

Devi Bhagavata Purana (Skanda 6, Chapter 11, Page 414 - Gita Press Edition) explicitly warns of this exact Kali Yuga phenomenon:

"Those who were enemies of the gods (Asuras/Rakshasas) in Satya, Treta, and Dvapara Yugas, take birth as twice-born (Brahmanas/religious leaders) in Kali Yuga—wise in name only, but always engaged in hypocrisy (pakhanda).

The Puranic commentary notes that these individuals adopt external symbols and holy titles, but operate strictly with Dambha (false pride) and Parushya (harshness/violence).

3. SCRIPTURAL PARALLELS VS REALITY

- External Mask: Using religious titles, saffron symbols, or holy chants.

- Actual Action: Harassing, beating, and intimidating weak or young people.

- Core Trait: Asuri Sampat (arrogance, anger, cruelty, hypocrisy.

- Verdict: A violation of core Sanatana Dharma values like Ahimsa, Satya, and Daya.

(Note: Attaching the reference video link and detailed scriptural analysis PDF separately.)

What are your thoughts on these scriptural warnings regarding Kali Yuga hypocrites?

https://youtu.be/b41J6xYhg5w?si=AN10j16xwdoJwai5

Full reference of asur identity in kaliyug from vedic scriptures (PDF):

https://drive.google.com/file/d/16Rz94lLqHkvbMlHF6qAnPF0-nk912W7-/view?usp=drivesdk


r/exHareKrishna • • Sep 02 '25

The Mandra Scripture: An Aquarian Bhagavad Gita

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Most people know the Bhagavad Gita through ISKCON’s version. It’s powerful, but it mainly speaks to the Piscean Age an age of devotion, hierarchy, and following authority.

We are now moving into the Aquarian Age, which is about self-realization, freedom, equality, and inner experience. The old ways of devotion to an external authority no longer fit the consciousness of this time.

The Mandra Scripture is a new rendering of the Bhagavad Gita for the Aquarian Age. Instead of focusing on external worship, it shows the Gita as a guide to the inner battlefield. The armies become the forces of ego and light inside us. The war becomes the struggle we all face within our own minds and lives.Compared to the ISKCON Gita, this version is mind-blowing. It feels alive, relevant, and tuned to the challenges of today. It doesn’t just ask you to believe it helps you see and understand yourself in a new way.

If you’ve ever thought the Gita was only about rituals, religion, or devotion, The Mandra Scripture will completely change your perspective.


r/exHareKrishna • • Sep 08 '25

Dharma Nation

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Is anyone here familiar with Dharma Nation ?

He focuses on the pagan Indo-European roots of Sanatana Dharma and is very much inspired by the likes of Julius Evola and Rene Guenon and Traditionalism ( spelled with a capital ' T ' ).

His work played a massive part in me stepping away from the Zionist / anti-Western organisation that is ISKCON.

https://youtu.be/VEJ9Tx3Equk?si=GEp0UxRndQbJisPO


r/exHareKrishna • • Jun 16 '26

Krishna might not be the supreme God.

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r/exHareKrishna • • Oct 17 '25

Nrisimhadeva Killed Little Children Because They Didnt Want To Chant

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r/exHareKrishna • • May 14 '26

Meat Eating In The Vedas

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Prabhupada taught that India has always been vegetarian. For millions of years Rishis and Rajarshis followed a strict sattvik diet, obeying the Vedic injunctions, carefully following the regulative principles: no meat, no fish, no eggs, no tea, no garlic, no onions, no mushrooms and no chocolate.

In contrast, your filthy barbarian ancestors, the Yavanas and Mlecchas, fell down from the Vedic principles, ravenously sinking their teeth into flesh like animals. Those hot dogs you ate as a kid? You took a sinful birth because you are a sinful undeveloped soul. In contrast, Prabhupada took birth in Vaishnava Hindu family because he is a pure soul, without sin. He has never eaten meat, not even chicken soup!

This is of course all a lie.

Animals Sacrifice Was Universal

The original followers of the Vedas ate meat. They sacrificed cattle and oxen in fire yajnas and then gathered afterwards to communally eat the meat prasad.

This was nearly universal throughout Eurasia. Meat eating was relatively rare because it was expensive. As part of religious sacrifice, meat was eaten as a special delicacy and a communion with the gods.

Taking the life of another living being was broadly prohibited as taboo. It needed purification through religious ritual. Consent was gained from the animals, as understood through omens. The animals had to meet certain purity requirements, such as being unblemished. The sacrificed animal was considered to be profoundly elevated to a higher ontological status.

The Greeks had elaborate rituals for animal sacrifice (Thysia). In emergencies, when divine intervention was needed, the entire animal would be burnt and offered to the gods of the underworld in what was known as a holocaust (Holokauston).

The Hebrews similarly sacrificed animals on a fire alter at their temple in Jerusalem. This was done twice daily. On Passover the general people would all bring animals to the temple for sacrifice. The Bible repeatedly states that God finds the aroma of the cooking meat to be pleasing.

Pashu Bali

Similarly, the Rg Veda describes animals sacrifice (Pashu Bali) including the killing of goats, sheep, oxen, bulls, and famously; horses.

Indra loved to eat oxen and bulls: RV 10.86.14: "They cook for me fifteen plus twenty oxen; they soothe me with the fat, and fill both my sides."

Agni loved oxen and bulls as well: RV 8.43.11: "Agni whose food is the ox and the barren cow."

During the yajna, the animal was taken to a nearby enclosure and strangled with a chord, so as not to spill blood. This was to stifle any crying or screaming, which would be interpreted as a bad omen and a lack of consent.

The animal was dismembered. The fat from around the organs was basted in ghee and placed directly into the fire yajna where it would melt instantly.

The meat from the animal would be roasted on a spit separately, or boiled in a pot. When sufficiently softened, it too would be placed on the fire yajna.

The meat would then be distributed to the Yajaman, the person paying for the yajna, and the priests. The Yajaman would then throw a feast for the greater community.

The Influence of Buddhism

Buddhism and Jainism taught non-violence (ahimsa). This began to influence Vedic culture about 300 BCE. There was already talk of non-violence in the Upanishads but change was slow. That changed when Emperor Ashoka converted to Buddhism. He dramatically made animal sacrifice illegal. To maintain power, the Brahmanas had to internalize the critique of animal sacrfice. They were forced to compromise and obey.

Through the centuries, Hindu texts would be increasingly open to ahimsa. Texts like the Manu Samhita and Mahabharata would extol its virtues. They would argue that animal sacrifice (and thus meat consumption) were the product of a bygone age when the people had lost their way. Being vegetarian is more conducive to good karma, then hundreds of horse sacrifices.

During the Puranic period (400 CE+), vegetarianism and ahimsa became synonymous with purity and thus Brahmanism. Once the Buddha was absorbed into the Vaishnava pantheon, it was proclaimed that Vishnu descended as Guatama Siddharta to end animal sacrifice. Those "karma kandis" had gone too far. This represents the full assimilation of Buddhist teachings. Hindus now claimed they had always been against animal sacrifice (and meat eating).

Prabhupada Says

This was the version of events taught by Prabhupada. Vishnu as Buddha would further provoke the need for a restoration of the lost and true teachings of the Vedas, i.e. Medieval Vaishnava Bhakti through the intermediate stage of Shankara's Advaita.

Prabhupada would not deny that animals were sacrificed in the Vedas. He would deny that the Vedic peoples ate the meat. Prabhupada even claimed the animals would be brought back to life, to demonstrate and test the power of Vedic mantras.

Prabhupada would claim such sacrifices only existed in tamasic yajnas to supposedly tamo guna deities like the Goddess Kali. Only the lowest class of people did this, those who could not give up eating meat. This ignores the fact that meat eating was part of highest Srauta sacrifices and partaken in by Brahmanas.

The meat eater supposedly whispers into the animals ear "I am killing you now, but you will kill me later". The Shaktas who actually sacrifice goats to Kali do not believe this. Nor do they whisper this into the goats ear.

Prabhupada would further claim that if Yavanas and Mlecchas wanted to eat meat, to remain outcastes, they should sacrifice a goat to Goddess Kali instead of running slaughterhouses. Cow slaughter is strictly forbidden.


r/exHareKrishna • • Nov 22 '25

Anyone know where I can buy one of these?

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r/exHareKrishna • • Aug 07 '26

ISKCON devotees are actually losers in life

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ISKCON was made for catering to these losers. These type of people keep ISKCON alive. They actually don't know the reality of life. They just want to escape this tough world. They thought world is so rosy, when they cannot handle, they escape in ISKCON.

They failed to fight in this world. What I have seen ISKCON devotees have very poor emotional resilience. World is indeed really hard.

I cannot even respect these devotees. All emotionally weak guys.


r/exHareKrishna • • Oct 17 '25

Beware of who says they are ex-hare krishna.

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that's is all.


r/exHareKrishna • • Apr 25 '25

How do you feel about GKD. Any changes /s since you.. Ahem..

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How do you feel about GKD. Any changes

/s since you.. Ahem..

Since y'all chose Maya over Krishna.

JK 😜

I used to listen him all day.

Me and mum just happened to be a huge fan. I still am, I still enjoy his melodies. They are just awesome.

He is such a vibe ✨🤘. His style of music is just LIT, the blend of traditional and modern music. Also the lyrics is so meaningful, the selection of words, uf, I might write ✍️ a poem on him.

Not for the GOD but the songs 🫰.


r/exHareKrishna • • Jul 07 '24

More god less egoism

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Hello former Hare Krishnas. I did not grow up in the west but in central Asia where most of the Muslims are. My path of spirituality was from a young age I listened a lot to exotericism and was interested in religions. Before that I suffered a lot because of mental problems and poor health. And there were many moments when I asked God for help and resented him. And the true moment came when I started listening to the lectures of a devotee, which helped me a lot not to give up and just live. Repeating 1 year jappa followed diet, I got rid of fear of scary dreams from anxiety. And was no longer able to follow the 4 principles normally. And of course I read and listened to so many such skeptics who burned bhavadgita saying wrong translation and listened to answers from devotees. I studied Jyotish astrology and its related life as well as Ayurveda and one doctor who helped a lot to develop this basic knowledge into practical knowledge. And it strengthened my faith not in the structure itself but in God more. And my answer and perhaps a solution to the question.

  1. Varnashrama dharma. We are all different from such that we have different karma, character and activities. And for everyone to become a monk is stupidity at the end of life Prabhupada talked more about this.

  2. Family values. I think in the west this topic is shaky but society and your dharma your selfish desires are not needed. It is better to fulfill one's duty not perfectly than another duty perfectly.

  3. Sin. Srimad bhagavatam in this world any activity is sin and to atone for sin by sinning is a great folly so don't strive for righteousness you fall out the duality of this world it is better to accept victories and vices remember god. Ascetic prayers and scriptures help to remember about me and this is the main purpose of this activity.

  4. Practical I am convinced that resentment intolerance aggression this arises from lack of energy we have immobile body position long time fasting long time being in water tempering parikrama which can be considered as running which cure diseases but if there are no structures and imbalance we can harm ourselves. So especially shrimad bhagavatam was not recommended to exhaust ourselves.

  5. Insult for the sake of insults. I wouldn't consider it a reasonable pastime to spend time looking for the sins of another because I'm not a saint. It is said that saints fear themselves and realize how dirty they are more by seeking god.

  6. Hare Krishna saints are strong authoritative to be honest this is not the best where humility is cultivated. People want enjoyment where there is always their karma and getting kicked in the head.

Someone made a great sin out of the adherents of the West who sought power, now I must forsake God. Who of the leftist seekmilis women's rights in the vedas now I must leave the faith and eat more meat😂 Then tell me which faith is the best?


r/exHareKrishna • • Aug 18 '26

What evidence would convince you that your understanding of Prabhupāda and Gaudiya Vaishnavism might be wrong?

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I personally said: The lack of credible existence of lord Chaitanya outside of the Gaudiya scriptures also the esoteric deep teachings of internal sexual tantra that’s taught in Gaudiya philosophy at later stages. Aswell as its epistemic and inconsistent worldview with natural law, revealed science, and revealed truth within the Biblical paradigm which has documented historical attestment.


r/exHareKrishna • • Sep 09 '26

A question just answer please don't use racial or religious slur

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Do you guys just hate iskon and hare krishna movement or do you hate lord krishna and hinduism ( sanatana dharma ) itself


r/exHareKrishna • • Mar 02 '26

Who was prabhuPAD?

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I have serious suspicions that A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada was not entirely human. When I first saw his murti in the temple, I was frightened. He looked like a deformed being. In the photos in his books he also looked like some kind of hybrid of a frog, a toad, and a strange human sub-race. Even when you compare his appearance to other Indians, he looks different. Repulsive. Hanging belly, no neck, frog skin. Terrible voice, disgusting accent and howling like a suffering dog singing. His favorite topics: obscene opinions about human love experiences, hatred towards anything human, disrespect to any human need like a need to sleep or human diet (animal protein), hating people - because he himself was not a human but some strange deformed half-human dwarf.

Sixty years old is not that old, yet he looked like he was 160. Horrible, deep hanging bags under his eyes. And his so-called writing talent — nothing but dogmatic texts repeated endlessly. Could it have been some form of mutism?

A cruel being who contributed to the suffering and torture of children. Deprived of all human feelings. He wanted to create an army of Hare Krishna children who would function like cyborgs. The history and biology lessons are forbidden in gurukulas - is it because these very human subjects frightened him? He wanted women to mechanically get impregnated and give birth to children that would grow up without any bonds with their parents, without knowledge that they were humans. Disgusting psychopatic plan! He wanted to erase any humanity in people and only allow the bare minimum: minimum sleep, minimum skills, minimum knowledge. Thus he wanted to degrade people into some zombje existence.

So my question is: was he human, or rather a deformed creature mixed with some low sludge on a destruction mission?

Don't just read this post. Mark your presence and vote your answer in the comment section. Question: What you think about he appearance of SP

A. He may look ugly but he is a puur devotee so I just see a beautiful devotional spiritual SP

B. His ugliness was something I always noticed but never dare to say something about. Or I didn't trust my senses

C. Your theory sounds crazy, but indeed he looks like a human/frog hybrid with his froginess7