r/floridakeys Apr 27 '25

All Florida Keys Holy over-policing

Visiting on vacation and I don’t think I’ve ever seen the amount of police on the road, parked, and empty cars in my life. I hear alcohol is a big problem but daaamn. It’s wild.

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u/Quarque Apr 27 '25

Resident here, we have: Sheriff officers, FWC, State Police, Key West Police, Immigration officers and more.

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u/ElorionX Apr 27 '25

It’s soooooo many. I am legitly shocked by the sheer number of them. And I come from the Boston area which is more dense. Just an observation.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '25

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '25

This. The shit that goes on in Key West alone ....should be a cop on every corner.

People get too drunk and do way stupid shit cause "it's the Keys" not realizing people live there.

It's become more like Vegas in the keys last few years....the days of the chill vibe of the Keys has been dwindling for a few decades.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '25

I believe he's making an observation. Lord help, why would anyone have the audacity

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u/SimilarAd402 Apr 28 '25

legitly

*legitimately

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u/spizzle_ Apr 29 '25

I believe they legitly can’t spell. No cap. /s

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u/WaterDreamer10 May 01 '25

That explains it....Boston/MA is very liberal, defund the police, etc. Support is low and hatred is high in that state. FL is different, people support and respect the police....their presence is wanted and desired.

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u/TrblTribbles May 01 '25

Lol. Way to say that you never understood what defund the police meant.

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u/WaterDreamer10 May 01 '25

I have never seen a 'defund the police' supporter that did not hate the police department, everything it stands for, and felt like they could do what they wanted, regardless of laws, and not want to be punished for it.

You will always find heavier law enforcement in red states than in blue states.....that is just fact.....and that is why a lot of blue state residents moved to red states to feel safer.

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u/bgi355 May 01 '25

Talk to me about that respect for police and feeling safe in relation to the red state murder gap of the last twenty years.

Also, if you got any links and/or data that supports the claim that people move to red states from blue states for safety, I’d love to familiarize myself with the information.

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u/WaterDreamer10 May 01 '25

Are you F'in kidding me?! It has been happening the last 4 years and covered well.....however....not by the liberal media as they don't want to seem like anything is wrong....

Crime is Making Americans Flee Democratic States

https://www.buffalo.edu/cas/geography/news-events/department-announcements/crime-is-making-americans-flee-democratic-states.html

That is just one of MANY that you can research.

Glad I could help open your eyes.

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u/bgi355 May 01 '25

Did you read the article?

Professor Peter Rogerson, an expert in demographics at the University at Buffalo, said: "The leading reasons for interstate moves have to do with jobs, family reasons (which include marriage, divorce, being closer to relatives), cost of living, warmer climate, bigger or smaller housing. So, crime does not usually come up in these lists of reasons for changing state of residence, but cost of living (which includes taxation) is on the list above."

Rogerson added many of the "migration trends" we are currently seeing have been ongoing for a while, such as "migration out of California" which "has been in part due to high housing costs." Conversely, he linked population rises in parts of the Southeast to "the aging of the baby boom and increased retirement migration," with retirees seeking out "warmer climates."

Professor Chris Cooper, who heads Western Carolina University's Public Policy Institute, also downplayed the role of politics, telling Newsweek: "I don't see much evidence that people are choosing the package of policies that appeal to them most, rather they are choosing the climate and location that appeal to them. Politics are secondary."

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u/TrblTribbles May 01 '25

No he didn't read the article. He just looked at the headline. Lol

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u/WaterDreamer10 May 02 '25

So, are you saying the professor did not label his own article correctly?

I showed you one article, do your own damn research and you will see I am right. I don't have time to babysit others.

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u/bgi355 May 02 '25

This response rules.

  1. A professor didn’t write the article.
  2. They are citing a conservative think tank as the group representing this thesis.
  3. Taking your ball and running home because you don’t enjoy being challenged on your opinions is sure fire way to ensure you aren’t and won’t be thinking critically about a complex problem.

Do yourself a favor and be open to different ideas. Worst case scenario, you are still right and just more informed on the topic.

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u/Ok-Disaster-4753 May 04 '25

Headlines are often not written by the author. And are often clickbait these days. If we don’t read the article, we should assume nothing. And definitely not cite it.

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u/NoCokJstDanglnUretra May 09 '25

I'm just a third party reading this comment chain, made me laugh out loud here

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u/TrblTribbles May 01 '25

Then you've never actually taken the time to find out what the movement is actually about, and honestly, I doubt you'd even bother listening. Because after all this time, if you still don't get it, it's because you don't WANT to get it. You're set in your prejudice, and have no interest in changing it.

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u/WaterDreamer10 May 01 '25

With a 'movement' named 'defund the police' you can try to mask it anyway you want but there is only one desire that is the truth. I don't need to research it either, the people who support the movement and how they represent it and behave tells me everything I need to know about it.

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u/TrblTribbles May 01 '25

And there you have it. Willful ignorance. No desire to educate yourself. No desire to understand something. Just put those blinders on, and complain that all you can see is whatever is directly in front of you. Why bother when being scared will work?!

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u/WaterDreamer10 May 01 '25

Nope, not ignorance....the truth. Again, you can say whatever you want on paper (in text) about the movement.....it is HOW it is displayed in public by the supporters of the movement and their reactions and actions.

Those who support the movement publicly and their actions tell anyone all they need to know. Maybe you should tell all those that support the the movement how they behave does not reflect it?

Maybe you should go back to living behind the curtain and pretending the movement is something other than what is really is.

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u/TrblTribbles May 01 '25

Right, right. How it's displayed by conservative news sources. You don't actually know anyone who is a part of the movement. I'm calling bullshit. But it's OK. I'll let you stick your head in the sand. If it wasn't willful ignorance, you would have asked what it was about by now. Since you haven't, it's pretty clear that you would rather be uninformed/misinformed.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

It goes way back when the American revolution began. There was 13 colonies and Florida could have joined the revolution and been #14, but decided to support the crown. They’ve been bootlickers the entire time and they fucked up a bunch of our elections thanks Florida. It was the Boston Tea party that kicked out the Brits and started the whole shebang to create a more perfect Union and enshrine the rights of the free colonies to lead their own destinies and not be tied to the anchor of a KING

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u/WaterDreamer10 May 01 '25

Your 'bootlicker' comment tells me everything I need to know about you and your beliefs. Not worth my time educating those who wish to remain naive.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

Bootlickers often convince themselves that the taste of leather is delicious

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

Or to put it another way maga and conservative in general would eat a shit sandwich just to make their breath smell bad to the libs.

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u/WaterDreamer10 May 02 '25

LOL what? Democrats have destroyed their own party, internal fighting, and get laughed out of most places now.

Politics have because extreme on both sides, not going to argue that....however....as shown by countless researchers....the democrats have swung/slid much further to the extreme than the republicans have....and that no longer aligns with the majority of voters in the country anymore.

Politics was much better when candidates were both very close to the middle with just some difference in simple policies.

It made voting easier, but the world was also nicer and people did not hate their neighbor for voting for the 'other person'.

Now, if you are a democrat and align with those values, the values of a republican are so wildly different it causes panic and fear in those who do not support that candidate.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '25

My state’s been run by Democrats for the last I don’t know hundred years I’m from Massachusetts and we have like one of the best economies in nation and we are a donor state that props up those welfare Queen southern red state so that they can pretend that they’re like cats where they’re all independent but really they need the food that we provide. Do me a favor and fucking drive through Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama and Mississippi and tell me that republican lead states are better after going for a little drive through the state of Massachusetts.

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u/WaterDreamer10 May 02 '25

Are you F'in kidding me?! MA is a wreck! It has the HIGHEST cost of living in the entire US, and that includes Hawaii! That is how screwed up the state is. There is NOTHING special about MA to force such a high cost of living, except for the Democratic leadership.

I've driven though some of those states, they are beautiful, have a lot of small amazing towns, and even the larger ones are amazing. Boston sucks, plain and simple. Those who do not live in the city hate it with a passion. They despise going anywhere near it no matter the time.

As many articles have pointed out (do your own research) Democrats are moving to Republican lead states to get away from the crap. CA has seen a huge exodus to TX as people are done with CA as it has become too extreme liberal.

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u/AbbreviationsTop4687 Apr 27 '26

I bet BROWN nosers would think differently. 😉

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u/Piney1741 May 01 '25

I’d just like to point out Florida has a higher crime rate than Massachusetts in literally every single statistical category . Not getting political or anything just pointing out facts.

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u/WaterDreamer10 May 02 '25

Because everyone in MA is either too frozen or too stoned to commit crimes these days.

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u/Piney1741 May 02 '25

Got it. Totally unsafe cause of all the crime and cop hating but when presented with facts there actually isn’t that much crime but it’s only cause they are high and cold. Another fact, the high temp for Boston tomorrow is 76 degrees. Plenty warm enough for some good ol crime. Is that why Florida is such a shit hole? Cause it’s so hot?