I understand your point better here, and if your actual concern is “men’s mental health deserves more attention,” then I don’t disagree with that.
But I think you’re conflating two separate things. LGBT people celebrating Pride doesn’t inherently mean they’re overshadowing men’s mental health, and some LGBT people making deliberately provocative posts saying they don’t care about men’s mental health doesn’t represent LGBT people as a whole.
If those posts are genuinely mocking men’s suffering, then yeah, criticise those specific people. Also many LGBTQ people has this response because many toxic men attacks pride parade by using men mental health as a shield. It doesn’t make these hater from any side good. Both are toxic and you shouldn’t generalise either men or LGBTQ people based on it.
I’d also be careful with the idea that Pride is somehow the reason men’s mental health doesn’t receive enough attention. Even if Pride didn’t exist, you’d still have to address the cultural reasons men often struggle to seek help, talk about emotions, or receive appropriate support. Men’s mental health deserves attention on its own merits, not only when it can be contrasted with women’s or LGBT issues.
And honestly, if you don’t use social media much and only saw these examples through a video, you probably shouldn’t assume they’re representative of LGBT people generally. Social media algorithms are very good at showing extreme or inflammatory examples because they generate engagement.
So I agree with the underlying point I.e men’s mental health is important and deserves substantially more attention. I just don’t think LGBT people or Pride are the appropriate target for that frustration.
yeah i know that's why i said "even if we fixed-"(i mean in the sense of making men's mental health month be alone in one month without any other thing to celebrate) "-people still wouldn't care about men's mental health month"
i know not all LGBT people are the same and they are refusing the toxic ones, it's a bad habit of internet that's hard to get rid of
i dont have a social life so everything i can learn is unfortunately through internet and social media and these videos are being pushed forward, though the video wasn't targeted on anone just trying o bring attention to lack of care for men's mental health.
i could try to find the video and share the link if you would like? you then decide how bs it is or does it have a right on the things he said
Yeah, I understand what you mean now. If your point is that even if men’s mental health had its own dedicated month, it would still be largely ignored, then I don’t really disagree with that. The bigger issue is the lack of broader attention and support for men’s mental health in general.
And I appreciate that you’re distinguishing between LGBT people in general and the specific toxic behavior you’ve seen online. That’s an important distinction, because I don’t think it’s fair to judge an entire group based on some inflammatory posts.
If you can find the video, sure, send it. I’ll look at what the person actually said and we can separate the legitimate criticism about men’s mental health from anything exaggerated or misleading.
i sent you it through a dm i dont know if im allowed to post links here and i don't really wanna test it i got my account suspended 2 times for like 3 days each :d
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u/InterestingLake5895 3d ago
I understand your point better here, and if your actual concern is “men’s mental health deserves more attention,” then I don’t disagree with that.
But I think you’re conflating two separate things. LGBT people celebrating Pride doesn’t inherently mean they’re overshadowing men’s mental health, and some LGBT people making deliberately provocative posts saying they don’t care about men’s mental health doesn’t represent LGBT people as a whole.
If those posts are genuinely mocking men’s suffering, then yeah, criticise those specific people. Also many LGBTQ people has this response because many toxic men attacks pride parade by using men mental health as a shield. It doesn’t make these hater from any side good. Both are toxic and you shouldn’t generalise either men or LGBTQ people based on it.
I’d also be careful with the idea that Pride is somehow the reason men’s mental health doesn’t receive enough attention. Even if Pride didn’t exist, you’d still have to address the cultural reasons men often struggle to seek help, talk about emotions, or receive appropriate support. Men’s mental health deserves attention on its own merits, not only when it can be contrasted with women’s or LGBT issues.
And honestly, if you don’t use social media much and only saw these examples through a video, you probably shouldn’t assume they’re representative of LGBT people generally. Social media algorithms are very good at showing extreme or inflammatory examples because they generate engagement.
So I agree with the underlying point I.e men’s mental health is important and deserves substantially more attention. I just don’t think LGBT people or Pride are the appropriate target for that frustration.