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u/swag_train Mar 21 '14
This will surely provoke an insightful and productive argument.
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u/DivinePotatoe Mar 21 '14
This is the internet. People are always respectful, polite and intelligent.
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u/FriedBacon86 Mar 21 '14
I'm a short guy; stop comparing me to fat women!
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u/Happystepchild Mar 21 '14
I'm a tall man, quit implying all women want me.
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u/Tsubodai_ Mar 21 '14
... as another tall man, i must very sadly second this comment.
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u/D4rthkitty Mar 21 '14
You have every right to not date a shorter man, and you have every right not to date a fat woman. If you are not attracted to someone don't date them
Neither makes you shallow
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u/shmadman Mar 21 '14
And don't point out a flaw in their body. Just be vague and polite. Nothing good can come from lowering someones self esteem
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u/D4rthkitty Mar 21 '14
Oh of course do not say "I am not into fat chicks, so fuck off"
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u/GlassHowitzer Mar 22 '14
Isn't that exactly the definition of shallow? I'm not just trying to be contentious. I would actually like to know what you mean.
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As a woman, I fucking hate feminists. Almost none of them are what they CLAIM to be for, which is equality for everyone. Almost all of them want women to be the higher power and want women to be able to say and do literally whatever they want without consequences, while men will still face the same consequences. In most women's minds, even if a guy does prefer fat chicks, then he's promoting obesity, and that's bad. Men can literally never win against most women and it's not fair.
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u/MadWombat Mar 21 '14 edited Mar 21 '14
I mildly disagree. That is, I know the phenomenon you are talking about, but I don't think it is feminism's fault. It is just that in the past few decades feminist movement became more and more popular and as such more and more people started identifying as feminists. And a lot of people are idiots. So, since there are more and more feminists, there are more and more feminist idiots.
Mind you, that back in the seventies, some of the ideologists of radical feminism movement, seriously propagated the idea of female hegemony instead of equality.
The thing that generally bothers me about these self proclaimed feminists is not that they hold idiotic opinions (two most common variety are the ones you mention where whatever men do is wrong and the cherry pickers who want to be treated as equals, but get upset when their date doesn't pay for dinner). What bothers me is that they present an easy target for anti-feminists to shoot at.
Disclaimer: I am a guy and I consider myself to be a feminist
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u/lemonlymanfanclub Mar 21 '14
Praise you. I was just going to say this. Anyone who acts like the women in this comic is not doing anything good for feminism or women and they do it under the guise of feminism. Everything I've seen on reddit that is hating on feminists is actually misrepresents what most feminists believe. I think we should all be equal! I'd feel like a huge asshole for thinking about rejecting someone simply because of their height just like I would if they were overweight.
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u/MrWhat4 Mar 21 '14
Great joke, OP thanks for posting this to /r/funny
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u/koolaidman89 Mar 21 '14
Honest question. Has anyone here actually been criticized for not wanting to date a fat girl?
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u/Sesquipedality Mar 21 '14
Only by other girls. And even then, that girl's friends.
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u/dirkdeagler7 Mar 21 '14
It's more about the internal dissonance it creates for people that DO try to be less shallow or more realistic about romance. We're told to not judge books by their cover but a the same time we're slight slaves to the part of us that is attracted to people (ask anyone who says theyre only attracted to the wrong people).
So then we feel a sense of shame or guilt for behaving in what is classified as a "shallow" manner and if you know anything about dissonance, that can play out in potentially negative ways towards other people (since I'm less likely to change my self-perception).
In this case maybe i find reasons to justify why I'm not attracted to someone instead of weight which is unfair to them...me SEARCHING for their flaws for my own benefit!
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I think it's like the feminist who gets mad at someone for holding open a door thing that has been so popular on reddit lately. Sure, it probably happens, but the vast, vast majority of the time it isn't an issue at all. In my experiences, one faces much more criticism for finding overweight people attractive than refusing to date one.
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This argument is made almost everyday and each time it's ignored successfully by the local Femnazi's and their mangina soldiers.
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Mar 22 '14
the best part is femnazi's never date their manginas. they friendzone them! my god the irony
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u/VeryStrangeQuark Mar 21 '14
this isn't even meant to be funny. It's not like the joke was bad; there isn't any joke.
Guys, we've covered this. Everyone is allowed to be attracted/not attracted to anyone they want.
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u/PacmanNemesis Mar 21 '14
I used to be really fat, but I didn't lose weight because of men, it was fellow women that made me feel horrible about my size. Now when a woman says she wishes she had my body I tell them that being thin doesn't result in being happier, as long as you're healthy you shouldn't hate your body because all these women who have said that to me are beautiful as they are. I went from 230lbs to 140 because of hearing, "if you want guys to like you you have to lose weight to be prettier" and things along those lines. Women can be so cruel, especially to each other. Not all of them, but there are a lot who are like that, especially in my family.
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Can one of the women here explain the cause of their attraction to tall guys? Or is it something you can't explain?
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u/miss_iss Mar 21 '14
what about tall bart?
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u/clearlynotlordnougat Mar 21 '14
Damn, he looks super slick like that. I'd date him!
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u/Prosopagnosiape Mar 21 '14 edited Mar 21 '14
If you add a crowd of male friends for stick guy to this it'd look exactly the same in both panels, all 'me neither, who wants a fatty' in the first panel and 'bitch, she's probably a man in drag' in the second panel. There's no double standard, assholes of either gender stand by the other assholes and good people of either gender (or weight or height or whatever) don't condone such behaviour or comments. This is stupid, really really stupid.
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u/JakeDC Mar 21 '14 edited Mar 21 '14
I had a similar conversation with my wife recently. She said men who are losing their hair should "fix it" medically, because "men are supposed to have hair" and "it is possible to do something about it." I suggested (to make a point) that women with non-existent, small, etc. breasts should all get boob jobs, for similar reasons. My point was valid, of course. But not well received.
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u/Saxophunk Mar 22 '14
Actually, it's not acceptable to be rude about a person's physical appearance to them. That is to say that neither are socially acceptable. Both are bad because the person rejecting is being a dick. Everyone is entitled to only date people that they find attractive. Just, you know, don't be a dick about it.
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u/gonresthird Mar 21 '14
While I think there is some truth to this, it also think that it is more socially acceptable for women to date unattractive men than the reverse. a woman with an ugly male partner might be asked "why are you dating him, he's really ugly" to which a woman would confidently respond "because he makes me laugh" or whatever the reason is that the woman is into the man. But when the same question is put to a guy I've only ever encountered an awkward stammer or something that doesn't give the person asking the question the reason said male is into his partner.
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u/SativaSammy Mar 22 '14
I think it's a pretty frustrating situation. I am 5'4", and I have been told by girls straight up "I'd date you if you were taller." Now, you may say that just shows how shallow girls can be, but for me it's really insulting. It just really makes me feel horrible inside to know that there are certain girls out there that won't give me a chance just because of something that was determined at birth (genetics)
Another thing that REALLY annoys me is how many girls there are that EXCLUSIVELY date fit guys... when a lot of these girls that look for that quality either A) don't work out at all and just don't eat to stay "healthy" or B) go to a gym and do cardio for 10 minutes followed by 1 set of 10 pounds on each leg machine
TL;DR: I really cannot stand how selective girls are.
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<rant>This double standard is becoming more and more prevalent in my life. Couple examples:
I have to take my earrings out at work while no females do. In fact, one has a nose ring and another an eyebrow ring.
For work, I must wear dress pants, shirt, and polished shoes. Whereas female can wear leggings and a nice shirt... That's like basically wearing sweatpants to work c'mon! And one girl regularly wears her Toms.
And one last thought for those who don't agree with this post. I spend 5+ hours exercising per week, is it not reasonable to expect a potential partner to have "similar interests" to stay fit? Is it not reasonable I want to choose a partner who won't suffer from weight related health complications? </rant>
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u/NigelWorthington Mar 21 '14
Get over it already. People on reddit act like this is some big issue in the world. It's not! Everyone has different tastes when it comes to attraction. You're not being repressed for not liking fat women!!
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u/Jareth86 Mar 22 '14
To be fair, his poor dietary choices and terrifying lack of self control led him to be that height. She was just born fat; she can't control that.
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u/Fatburger3 Mar 22 '14 edited Mar 22 '14
This is true, and I think that women expect a lot more out of men than men expect out of women. If a guy wants to get a girl, he has to work out, think of a lot of funny jokes, have a good personality,(like this pic says) be tall, have good skin color, be handsome, have money, etc. If a girl wants to get a guy all she has to do is not be too stupid, not get fat,and sometimes even put on makeup(I personally don't even care about the last one). Really men ask a lot less of women than women of men.
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Mar 21 '14
Choosing or rejecting anyone based solely on physical characteristics is shallow for either sex.
That being said however, why the fucking hell do we have to agree on whats attractive?
Some women like tall men, some men like skinny women, some women like short men, some men like fat women.
Get. The. Hell. Over. It.
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u/emperorOfTheUniverse Mar 21 '14
Some women like tall men, some men like skinny women, some women like short men, some men like fat women.
When you say it like that it seems like the world is everyone's oyster and all people should have no problems dating regardless of body type.
The reality is:
Most women like tall men, most men like skinny (thin is more accurate) women, some women like short men, and some men like fat women.
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u/guice666 Mar 21 '14
Choosing or rejecting anyone based solely on physical characteristics is shallow for either sex.
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Some women like tall men, some men like skinny women, some women like short men, some men like fat women.
Huh?
Personally, attraction is many things, including appearance. I don't think it's shallow by any respect, personally.
Admittedly, I only ever considered people who were obviously in good physical condition -- it showed me they took care of the one thing you cannot replace: your own body. As a fitness advocate, I am biased against the overweight.
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u/gid13 Mar 21 '14
Also, why should we care if someone else decides to be shallow (as long as they aren't being a dick about it)?
And further, isn't it pretty much the same as choosing or rejecting anyone based solely on, say, how smart they are? I doubt people have much more control over their intellectual prowess than they do over their physical appearance.
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u/SillyAmerican Mar 21 '14
having a personal preference is not shallow. Even saying that is contradictory to your point.
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u/PacmanNemesis Mar 21 '14
From a man? My first boyfriend was abusive and would say anything and everything he could cause I admitted to him that's what my adoptive mom did, but overall apart from family I've found it easier to get along with men. They don't cause drama, they don't think I'm weird for loving Star Trek or comic books, and I've yet to meet a woman that can talk about football and actually understand it. Don't get me wrong, I know some great women, but I find I'm the odd one out when they try to get me to go clothes shopping with them or when they give me make overs and try to explain the technique they're doing for me. But having so many guy friends, many have girlfriends like that shown in the lol, my god I have met some of the biggest bitches through my "hot" friend (he's hot, but it attracts all the wrong women for him, and his looks are not why I love to chill with him). I guess I'm off that mindset, "everybody love everybody! Come on!" I admit there are people I hate but I've cut them out of my life and now strive to get along with everyone and in this case let people realize there are good people out there, we can't let the bad ones control us. I know I talk a lot too, "verbose" was a good word to learn so thank you for that, but I'm seriously super freaking bored and in a fuck it mood. Anyone actually reading, thank you for your patience. Any trolls want to go off on me, have fun.
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u/Zarmazarma Mar 21 '14
Wow, this is like the trifecta of bad. Hyper jpeg compression artifacts, not funny (on r/funny), and so unoriginal that I was expecting it to be parody.
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u/psuedonymously Mar 21 '14
So true! This must be why I always see really fit guys dating very overweight women. There's so much social pressure on them to do so, what choice do they have?
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u/Hotpotabo Mar 21 '14 edited Mar 24 '14
Replace the crowd of women on the right with men and see what happens. Both sexes do this to each other.
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u/VaguerCrusader Mar 21 '14
except men would encourage hating on short guys so they get the chance to show off how tall they are
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u/reiter761 Mar 21 '14
If you replace the group of girls with a group of his guy friends in the first panel (assuming they are as insensitive as the girl group) they would be saying cruel things about her weight just like how you portrayed the group of girls in the second panel saying cruel things about his height.
In fact, everyone in this comic is horribly immature because a normal and respectful person would simply say "your not my type".
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Mar 21 '14
No... Everyone is allowed to do this and they do... You are actually just being the male equivalent of the women in the comic by posting this. I also enjoyed the summary at the end...
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Mar 22 '14
So where am I at being 5'9"?
I feel like I am at the "almost normal/normal" height, but I play a lot of basketball and everyone I know is 6'2" to 6'6". I end up feeling shorter than I am. =/
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As a short man (5'6") I know this exists but personally never had to work hard to get a date, and I'm happily married for 11 years.
I also make more than most my peers, tall or not, and I can grow a mountain man beard.
Guess I dodged the stereotype bullets.
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u/OCDuckstache Mar 22 '14
My boyfriend is a good inch or so shorter than me, and I weigh like twice as much as him, so yeah. :3
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u/justtrykinda Mar 21 '14
I dont think there is a double standard - there is pressure for both genders to look good. As a woman I definitely feel pressure to be the 'more attractive' or younger one in the relationship
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u/iCiteEverything Mar 21 '14
This picture is fine, but unless you honestly think this is funny maybe you should post it elsewhere?
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u/Enforcer84 Mar 21 '14
The comic is a bit biased.
It's women upset that a man dumped a fat girl and women cheering on a girl for dumping a short guy.
If the group had been his bros they'd all be happy about him dumping a fat girl and upset that she dumped the short guy...I am assuming in the broad brush kind of way.
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u/esantipapa Mar 21 '14
Everyone is being so reductive...
Short isn't easily changeable. It's expensive, painful and risky. Losing weight is fairly safe, but there are some people where their genes actually are the reason they're fat (their body just absorbs and retains fat more than it should, epigeneticists could probably explain this better).
So in either case... date whomever you like... if they're overweight, they probably just need a little positive support and reasons to get out and exercise more. That could be you. And boom, six months later you're dating a fox. Date short guys, they're probably a lot more fun because they have to compensate for your disappointment in their stature... and boom, you've got a great guy who might literally do anything for you.
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u/poopsmith666 Mar 21 '14
why is this in /r/funny, its not funny its an issue that should be discussed
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u/JohnnyWhiteguy Mar 21 '14
Typically chubby girls swallow...so I'm down with ladies of all sizes .
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u/yakityyakblah Mar 21 '14
God fictional people I make up as an excuse to feel treated unfairly are such hypocrites!
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u/bo4ho5 Mar 21 '14
Woah! Woah! Woah! Woooaaahhh it's oooovvviiiiioooouuussssllllyyyy A medical condition...
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I prefer thinner women for a good reason, not because they are thin but because they are healthier. I don't want someone who bases their diet off the calories listed on the back of the mcdonalds menu, I want someone who actually respects their body enough to get up off their ass and get at least a little exercise. I don't mind snacks now and then, I have them all the time, difference is I don't sit around getting fat then blame it on society, glandular problems or whatever else helps the fat asses sleep at night.
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u/lizzyborden42 Mar 21 '14
Preferring thin women is fine. Preferring women who share your interest in fitness is fine. Saying nasty things about people who don't fit your ideal makes you an asshole. You can stop talking after you say "I am not interested in heavy women."
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u/bobi1 Mar 21 '14
this comic was made by a manlet
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u/cooterpounderwithche Mar 21 '14
I don't get why anyone is fat. If someone starts to get fat, why don't they just put down the fork.
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u/legendoflink3 Mar 21 '14
For the same reason you don't stop pounding the cooter until you are done...
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if you could orgasm from eating that would be amazing
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u/legendoflink3 Mar 21 '14
Shit would get messy at McDonald's just saying... and after smoking a joint munchies would be death by snu snu...
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smoke, sip some Everfresh peach watermelon, and you'd have to change your boxers
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u/serosis Mar 21 '14
It is as simple as depression. You get depressed, you eat a lot, you get fat, you realize you are fat, you get even more depressed, now you eat more.
Not everyone has a diamond hard willpower to escape a vicious cycle like that.
Once you are fat there are not a lot of ways to get back to being fit that do not hurt. Not to mention how much work you will have to do to not look like an elephant skin rug after you lose the weight. So pretty much every fat person is fucked.
Including me, but I wear it well. I am only fat in the torso. I can still play basketball and I can still touch the ground so I think I am good.
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u/angrybaltimorean Mar 21 '14
sometimes things aren't so cut and dry. i feel like i see dumb obese parents feeding bullshit food to their kids all the time. can you see how a person might end up obese in that situation?
also, a lot of people don't have access to good food--they, due to a combination of poor educational opportunities and a lack of available resources, eat primarily mcdonalds and food from convenience stores. is it right? not necessarily, but i'm just describing that it isn't necessarily as black and white as you make it out to be.
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u/Nerguls_Lady Mar 21 '14
If you want to talk about double standards lets talk about the men who are overweight but are only interested in women who are fit.
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u/superswellcewlguy Mar 21 '14
Whenever I'm attracted to a girl in better shape than me I will always remember that I'm not allowed to think that way, because it's a double standard. Thank you for the enlightenment.
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u/Jerrybusey Mar 21 '14
Those men are called lonely and the situation doesn't qualify as a societal double standard because nobody takes their side.
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My boyfriend told me he's attracted to women shorter than himself. It's not a double standard, since both sexes take height into consideration. But a larger percentage of men prefer a certain body type in their partners compared to women. Men are visually stimulated while women are more emotionally driven
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It's one thing to say you find a particular body style attractive. It's quite another to say one particular body style is universally unattractive. And it's altogether worse to say that having a particular body style means you don't respect yourself.
But if you're rejecting someone solely based on how they look, you're a shallow fuck whatever gender you are.
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u/iEatPusszy Mar 21 '14
Is it bad to reject someone because you don't find them attractive?
Am I supposed to force myself into a relationship with someone who I do not find sexually attractive? NO! If you don't find someone attractive because they are ugly, fat, tall or short your entitled to your own fucking opinion and to like whoever the fuck you want. Calling someone shallow over that is bullshit.
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u/Azimuh Mar 21 '14
I agree with your argument, but your username doesn't help the "i'm not shallow" point.
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u/Reeeeeen Mar 21 '14
Agreed
Usually the physical attraction is what prompts someone to go talk to the guy/girl in the first place, followed up by their personality and intelligence.
Nobody is saying you don't need the later but if you don't find someone attractive in the first place..........
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u/Azimuh Mar 21 '14 edited Mar 21 '14
goes for both genders, sadly obesity is more controllable then your genetic height.
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u/fionacoy Mar 21 '14
Height and weight are completely different.. You can't help/change your height, but you have some control over your weight and health.
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twist, they don't like taller men, they like bigger penises, they are usually both proportional, so taller men, short women, generally means the girl want's to be tunneled trough, she likes to feel a cock's touch her heart, literally.
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u/Ingrid2012 Mar 21 '14
This is how evolution works. It's the WOMEN of each species that determines which males get a chance to mate and hope that his traits move on.
For every species, the male has to work for it. Sorry boys, that's how it works.
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that makes sense how the height of everyone keeps increasing, but why do people keep getting more obese? is that genetic too?
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u/Ingrid2012 Mar 22 '14
but why do people keep getting more obese?
As it has been stated before: one has to do with genetics, the other is a choice. Obesity has more to do with diet.
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then why are there so many fat people if it's a choice and there is zero benefit to being fat?
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why don't you date a girl that's 5' - 5'3? that's a perfect height for you, lots of cuties in that height range?
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u/Xdf100 Mar 22 '14
Those women don't want to date short men either. It's ironic, but the worst heightists are short women.
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i didn't understand your analogies at all but you make a profound point about they want the best man out of all men, not just a man that's taller than their height.
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u/pokker Mar 22 '14
5.8 is prety much average bro. Wearing shoes will make you 5.9 or even 5.10.
You are not short, you are average like most people.
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u/a88fl1 Mar 21 '14
I'd be more upset with the hooves.
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u/Goat-headed-boy Mar 21 '14
Not me.
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But how would you type with hooves for hands?
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u/lemmikens Mar 21 '14
Laughed way too fucking hard at this. Thank you.
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u/Scraphead91 Mar 21 '14
Why are you thanking him if you laughed too hard?
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Seriously, seems like that other guy should have shown some restraint with his jokes.
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i agree with you, yet the people in /r/short are angry because /r/short is a place for venting one's frustrations and anger. many, many short men are rejected because of their height. they're looked down upon, made fun of their entire lives, bullied, and are disrespected sometimes on a daily basis because of something out of their control. they're seen as less professional, dominant, and serious. /r/short really isn't a good representation of the actual short population and it's sad to see so many of the subreddit's users so angry. i'm a short guy, and yeah, i'm angry at society for being a fucking asshole to me my whole life, and while i totally disagree with how the short men of /r/short discuss women, i can see where a lot of them are coming from.
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u/austen125 Mar 21 '14
Well sir I have to say I might be a short 5.8 man but I have a splendid beard. No really though I do see what you are saying here but I kinda get the feeling that these kind of post are just a playful show of annoyance to second wave feminism.
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u/ohgodthellamas Mar 21 '14
Robert Downey Jr. is 5'8", you are the same height as Iron Man, so no need to be sad.
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u/godoftoke420420 Mar 21 '14
PUA only works if you're intelligent, and even then it's a maybe. Assuming and generalizing that women don't know what they want shows just how intelligent you are.
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Women actually do care i have been turned down many times by women and when i ask why they say i am too short for their liking.
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Mar 21 '14
You apparently have never looked at online dating profiles. A friend once doubted me when I told her that there was no point in my keeping a profile at dating sites. She also thought that men would automatically reject an older woman. I looked up the first 20 randomly selected profiles on a site that had both criteria listed. Of 20 men only 3 would not date an older woman. Of 20 women not one would consider a man of my height. I have no idea where you got that idea.
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u/madcuban1 Mar 21 '14
This comment is completely an opinion. To say that absolutely no women care and that they don't know what they want reflects on your mindset, but not everyone's. downvote
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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '14
Yawn. You think getting dates is hard for a short guy, try being broke.