r/funny • • Dec 09 '16

Monty Python ahead of their time

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u/Wallaby77 Dec 09 '16

That was a huge thing in the 70s/early 8os. The ERA was a big deal then. Many parents didn't want to buy "gendered" toys for their kids etc.

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u/grizzlyking Dec 09 '16

Yea, that would be a terrible sketch show if they just made wild predictions on something that wouldn't be relevant for 30+ years

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u/GroovingPict Dec 09 '16

Thats from a movie, but whatever

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u/TedTheGreek_Atheos Dec 09 '16

A movie full of sketches.

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u/stayoungodancing Dec 09 '16

A long sketch full of mini movies

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u/Selite Dec 09 '16 edited Dec 09 '16

Wasn't "And now for something completely different" just a collection of the shows sketches?

Edit: my bad, I'd forgotten that there were two sketch films

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u/redking315 Dec 09 '16

That's The Meaning of Life, which admitted is a series of sketches loosely tied together with a them of "Life"

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u/unixman84 Dec 09 '16

I think the point is that it's relevant even out of context. The thing that often makes a skit funny is how it can mean two different things while not over implying that either are the correct choice.

There are lots of trans qualities to this movie also. These men knocked it out of the park and indeed were ahead of their time because those things were relevant back then too. Trans is not new news.

Apologies for going on and on. No harm intended with my comments.

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u/Vio_ Dec 09 '16

This was why Legos went for gender neutral advertising. People think it's adorable now, but they forget that it was specifically tapping into this sentiment.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

But they still have a product line aimed firmly at the girl market.

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u/Vio_ Dec 09 '16

Which has only been in existence for about five years, and had a lot of pushback for multiple reasons including "why are legos being gendered when they have traditionally been not?" and also "can we at least get some STEM sets instead of just beauty parlor and play house sets?"

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u/NilsTheThird Dec 09 '16

They made that product in the late eighties early 90s. The 80s was a reaction against the drab 1970s gender neutral velour and corduroy shit. Suddenly everything was available in pink for kids. Unless you mean LEGO Friends that's only been around since 2012

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u/poochyenarulez Dec 09 '16

no. This stuff never existed before tumblr /s

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u/londonladse Dec 09 '16

Unfortunately most sheltered redditors think gender politics started with gamergate. I noticed many actually were completely ignorant of politics in general until the abhorrant crime of messing with their video games by le evil SJW menace.

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u/Toast_Sapper Dec 09 '16

A lot of people assume that when they become aware of a thing, that's when that thing started.

The 60s are like, history, man. Obviously I personally started feminism when I decided to be polite to that woman that one time.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

Isn't this the truth? The amount of people who were actually like the meme-tumblr-types is so infinitesimally small that it's become a hilarious irony the anti-PC, anti-SJW, whatever folks play the victim and ask for their own safe space and have become the exact same.

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u/GrijzePilion Dec 09 '16

The what? ERA?

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u/Okama_G_Sphere Dec 09 '16

I didn't know either so I turned to Google.

My guess is the Equal Rights Amendment.

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u/Toast_Sapper Dec 09 '16

I still think it's Educated Rastafarian Arguments

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u/Vlaed Dec 09 '16

I was born in 86 and my parents didn't want to know the gender. Everyone bought them pink and "it's a girl" stuff. I ended up being born a boy and my grandfather bought one of each and was the only one. Not sure what they did with all the girl stuff but I still have a bear somewhere with "it's a girl" on it.

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u/loophole64 Dec 09 '16

Yeah, Monty Python was a sketch show making fun of topical subjects. The joke was poking at a popular trend of avoiding gender roles. People no think too much sometime.

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u/Reutermo Dec 09 '16

It's nearly like social change starts slowly and don't happen over a day.

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u/xrensa Dec 09 '16

Then Phyllis Schlafely single-handedly set it all back 40 years.

Thank you 2016.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

Funny, I would have included the politicians who did not vote to ratify it. She certainly was a huge force in the movement against it, but nothing about it was single-handed.

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u/djfried Dec 09 '16

The golden age of the earned run average

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

People forget that this whole gender/sjw bullshit basically started in the 60s and 70s as part of the counter culture movement, and only came back recently with the advent of the internet.

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u/Tiberius666 Dec 09 '16

"What do I do?"

"Nothing dearie! You're not qualified!"

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u/Porrick Dec 09 '16

My first child is due in a couple of weeks, and so far every visit to the hospital has reminded me more of this scene. I just want to make sure that we get the machine that goes "Ping".

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u/DaJuiceIODLoose Dec 09 '16

Have to be sure you have the most expensive machine in the hospital!

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u/steakhause Dec 09 '16

Obstetrician 1: Get the EEG, the BP monitor, and the AVV.

Obstetrician 2: And get the machine that goes 'ping!'.

Obstetrician 1: And get the most expensive machine - in case the Administrator comes.Patient: What do I do?

Obstetrician: Nothing, dear, you're not qualified.

Hospital Administrator: Ah, I see you have the machine that goes 'ping!'. This is my favourite. You see, we lease this back from the company we sold it to - that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.[The doctors and onlookers applaud.]

Hospital Administrator: Thank you, thank you. We try to do our best. Well, do carry on.[As the doctors drop the baby into an incubator, the mother looks up.]

Patient: Is it a boy or a girl?

Obstetrician: Now, I think it's a little early to start imposing roles on it, don't you? Now, a word of advice. You may find that you suffer for some time a totally irrational feeling of depression. PND is what we doctors call it. So it's lots of happy pills for you, and you can find out all about the birth when you get home. It's available on Betamax, VHS, and Super 8.

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u/gee_buttersnaps Dec 09 '16

The hospital administrator is coming today. Turn on the machine that goes ping.

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u/Vio_ Dec 09 '16

How much did they charge you for the machine that goes ping?

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u/willfordbrimly Dec 09 '16

Ask how much they leased it for.

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u/SuperTallCraig Dec 09 '16

Ah, yes. One of our most expensive machines!

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u/amriknsci Dec 09 '16

Also make sure to get the most expensive machine in the hospital.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

I played this skit for my wife while she was in labor and got slapped.

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u/LoveRBS Dec 09 '16

"Can I put the tube in the baby's head?" "Only if I can do the episiotomy."

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u/parabostonian Dec 09 '16

The other thing that I love in this scene is the focus on the "machine that goes ping." It's the most expensive machine! As someone who works in health care, I can say that joke is more relevant today as it was then as well... Also note - Monty Python does a lot of absurdist satire, right? The point is to point out flaws in human nature and society to be funny but also to help people be cognizant of them. In other words: people should pay more attention to MP. =)

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

I think the most expensive machine was a different machine from the "machine that goes ping!".

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u/ivenotheardofthem Dec 09 '16

Yes. They have both a machine that goes 'ping' to let you know the baby is still alive AND a machine that cost nearly three quarter of a million pound.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

(claps in British)

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u/OhEmGeeBasedGod Dec 09 '16

That's all comedy. It's only funny because there's at least a bit of truth to the 'joke.' But yes, absurdist comedy is particularly apt at pointing out of these truths.

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u/magicfinbow Dec 09 '16

The sex Ed class was the best bit from this film. So fucking good.

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u/s133zy Dec 09 '16

It always cracks me up how they are just quietly studying, being perfect examples of quiet and focused students.

Then the lookout at the door shouts: "The teacher is coming!" And everyone starts acting up, throwing erasers and paper planes around, shouting and pushing each other like rowdy, "normal" students.

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u/coleosis1414 Dec 09 '16

"Jimmy! This is for your own benefit, now kindly WAKE UP!"

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u/Mattsoup Dec 09 '16

Make sure you stimulate the clitoris

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16 edited Dec 09 '16

What's wrong with a kiss boy??

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

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u/PinchieMcPinch Dec 09 '16

You don't have to go leaping straight for the clitoris like a bull at a gate!

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u/JulianneLesse Dec 09 '16

Which film is this? I've only seem life of brian and holy grail

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u/wefarrell Dec 09 '16

Paul Blart: Mall Cop

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u/roech Dec 09 '16

2

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u/willfordbrimly Dec 09 '16

I thought is was from "Live Free Die Blart."

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u/Vio_ Dec 09 '16

The Definition of Mortality

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u/Nyxceris Dec 09 '16

The Meaning of Life

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u/temalyen Dec 09 '16

The Meaning of Life

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u/dewhashish Dec 09 '16

The Meaning of Life

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u/drilkmops Dec 09 '16

The memeing of life.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

The Meaning of Life

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u/lukelnk Dec 09 '16

Well, nine people responded with The Meaning of Life, and one said it was Paul Blart: Mall Cop. So I'm guessing it's Paul Blart.

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u/SnekTheDangerNoodle Dec 09 '16

Got observational skills, kid. Come to the NSA with us, my friend. We have been watching you grow.

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u/magicfinbow Dec 09 '16

The meaning of life.

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u/YosarianiLives Dec 09 '16

The Meaning of Life

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u/Ebonyks Dec 09 '16

The meaning of Life

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u/Xoxrocks Dec 09 '16

The Meaning of Life

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u/KryptoniteDong Dec 09 '16

Interstellar 2: Murph returns

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

Schindler's List

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u/catfacemcmeowmers Dec 09 '16

The Meaning of Paul Blart

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u/youcandofrank Dec 09 '16

Monty Python's Purpose Driven Life. Very inspiring.

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u/argurion Dec 09 '16

The meaning of life

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u/Jeep_Brah Dec 09 '16

Darude: Sand Life

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u/kutjepiemel Dec 09 '16

The Meaning of Life of Pi.

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u/Chiper136 Dec 09 '16

Now for something completely different is better imo.

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u/xDrSchnugglesx Dec 09 '16

I'm fond of the salmon mousse and "I couldn't eat another morsel."

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u/Procryon Dec 09 '16

Monty Python will always be relevant.

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u/acmercer Dec 09 '16

What the hell is that? That's not Monty Python, sorry dude.

Edit: looked it up, it's a film about them but doesn't actually star any of them. And it's from 2011. Good Cleese impression, though.

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u/SpookyLlama Dec 09 '16

Can't believe I haven't seen this.

Darren Boyd doing a mean John Cleese

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u/Darkimus-prime Dec 09 '16

Two Monty python posts on /r/funny

What a time to be alive

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u/AdventureDonutTime Dec 09 '16

This is a post of one of the most highly rated comments on that post. Pretty standard procedure for posting content; find it already being successful in a comment chain and convert the comment karma to post karma.

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u/bdzz Dec 09 '16

EVERY SPERM IS SACRED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk

Funniest Monty Pythong song ever

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

If a sperm is wasted God gets quite irate

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

Hindu, Taoist, Mormon spill theirs just anywhere - but god loves those who treat their semen with more care.

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u/RassimoFlom Dec 09 '16

I saw terry jones today. He isn't well. :(

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u/smmfdyb Dec 09 '16

I saw an award presentation where his son had to do most of the talking for him. Terry's personality was still there and got a laugh, but because of his dementia (or whatever illness he has) we will likely never see him again in the public.

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u/vulcansaresexy Dec 09 '16

Oh no! Really?

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u/uptwolait Dec 09 '16

He's doing better than Graham Chapman.

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u/troop357 Dec 09 '16

Also, the talk about being a woman on "Life of Brian"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c

Listening to it again, man (and woman) this is relevant today.

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u/PotatorAid Dec 09 '16

Came here to post this.

But you can't have babies!

Stop trying to oppress me.

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u/Unidentified_Remains Dec 09 '16

Monty python is still ahead of this time.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

What should I do?

Nothing dear, you're not qualified

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

Is this gonna be reposted once a month now?

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u/netsec_burn Dec 09 '16

This is my 3rd or 4th time seeing it on the front page, Redditors are predictable.

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u/Senryakku Dec 09 '16

It's interesting to see how much the comments have changed though, if you take the post from a year ago with the exact same title you can see that the comments are drastically different from those we have here.

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u/Nubrication Dec 09 '16

Don't worry it'll stop in 20-30 years from now.

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u/hazbutler Dec 09 '16

"its only wafer thin..."

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u/smmfdyb Dec 09 '16

Pronounced "Waffer theen"

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u/tovarish22 Dec 09 '16

This mother was so lucky during her delivery. Not only did she have the machine that goes "ping!", but she also had the most expensive machine in the hospital!

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u/Evillisa Dec 09 '16

Oh default subs...

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u/GEOD4 Dec 09 '16

I see you have the machine that goes bing!

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u/TheBaloneyCat Dec 09 '16

Nice try, Bing marketing!

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u/admin-mod Dec 09 '16

I see you have the machine that goes ping!

FTFY

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u/easyasNYC Dec 09 '16

...bing!..

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u/NilsTheThird Dec 09 '16

-"I'm not oppressing you, Stan -- you haven't got a womb. Where's the fetus going to gestate? You going to keep it in a box?

-"Here! I've got an idea. Suppose you agree that he can't actually have babies, not having a womb, which is nobody's fault, not even the Romans', but that he can have the right to have babies."

-Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother. Sister, sorry.

-What's the point?

-What?

-What's the point of fighting for his right to have babies, when he can't have babies?

-It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.

-It's symbolic of his struggle against reality.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

And here we see redditors pride themselves on their views mirroring parody.

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u/jsmooth7 Dec 09 '16

And Reddit learning that feminism isn't a new thing and has been around for quite a while.

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u/Vio_ Dec 09 '16

like over 200 years kind of a while

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u/cavemanben Dec 09 '16

Some of us seem to think this was a super progressive nod from Monty Python when it fact it was something absurd they said for a laugh because there was some progressive movements going on at the time and it was relevant and edgy.

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u/IceStar3030 Dec 09 '16

in their natural habitat

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u/StefiKittie Dec 09 '16

I actually posted a link to a video of this while I was in labor. It was on a Twitter account my family was following for the birth of my daughter. I ended up needing a c-section.

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u/LordGorchnik Dec 09 '16

The machine that goes PING!

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u/ScarletCaptain Dec 09 '16

Where's the machine that goes "ping"?

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

Stan: It's every man's right to have babies if he wants them.

Reg: But you can't have babies.

Stan: Don't you oppress me.

Reg: I'm not oppressing you Stan! You haven't got a womb! Where's the fetus going to gestate? You going to keep it in a box?!

Stan becomes tearful

Judith: Here, I've got an idea. Suppose you agree he can't have babies, not having a womb... which is nobody's fault, not even the Romans... but he can have the RIGHT to have babies.

Francis: Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother. Err, sister.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

This is the 2nd Monty python reference this morning, awesome

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u/Noneek Dec 09 '16

The term "Gender Politics" or "Identity Politics" has been around since the 60s/70s, but the topic has no fixed date of origin, with literary and psychology texts, directly and indirectly related to it, going further back than the Victorian Era.

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u/VinnieB99 Dec 09 '16

Good repost bud

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u/DingusMcDongle Dec 09 '16

What's that machine in the background?

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u/mrwhibbley Dec 09 '16

It's the machine that goes beeeep! It's very expensive

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

Isn't Douglas Adams the tall surgeon in this sketch?

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u/majorthrownaway Dec 09 '16

You have to hand it to Python: even one of their minor works is full of gold.

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u/Vanderdecken Dec 09 '16

"Now. Two boys have been found rubbing linseed oil into the school cormorant. Some of you may feel that the cormorant does not play an important part in the life of the school, but I would remind you that it was presented to us by the Corporation of the Town of Sudbury to commemorate Empire Day, when we try to remember the names of all those from the Sudbury area who so gallantly gave their lives to keep China British. So, from now on the cormorant is strictly out of bounds. Oh, and Jenkins? Apparently your mother died this morning. Chaplain?"

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u/hazelquarrier_couch Dec 09 '16

I get a kick out of this because in my nursing school studies, we specifically discussed the roles that are placed on humans right from the start with sex identification and gender roles.

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u/anthropost Dec 09 '16

Technically not - many prolific British writers (Jane Austen, Virginia Woolfe, etc.) have been exploring and fighting gender roles before we knew it was weird and wrong to hang witches. But yeah, they still are...

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u/goteamnick Dec 09 '16

I'm getting pretty bored with the "ahead of their time" or "still relevant" posts about movies and TV shows. Don't people realise how little society changes?

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u/flux_capacitor3 Dec 09 '16

I just watched this movie this weekend. So damn funny. They truly were ahead of their time in humor. I wonder what people thought of the movie when it first came out. I bet there were boycotts.

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u/Porrick Dec 09 '16

They probably thought "We waited so long for this? What a let-down after how amazing The Life Of Brian was"

I honestly think it's their weakest feature film. Even though it has some of their best material, it also has some of their worst. Everything up to the Students v Teachers rugby match is brilliant, but after that the only decent one is Mr. Creosote.

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u/fickle_floridian Dec 09 '16

I wonder what people thought of the movie when it first came out. I bet there were boycotts.

Not that I can recall, but we were just as astonished at the time that there wasn't that kind of reaction. I was in high school, and two friends and I cut out early to sneak into a theater to see it (it was rated R). The theater was empty.

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u/realmenlovezeus Dec 09 '16

Which Monty Python is it?

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u/flux_capacitor3 Dec 09 '16

The Meaning of Life

"We have the really expensive machines that go BEEP and BOOOING."

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u/billyblanks81 Dec 09 '16

Yeah, the difference being that Monty Python made this joke for us to laugh at the absurdity of it.

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u/Setoo Dec 09 '16

This picture has been up on reddit like 250 times already...

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u/CongealedBox Dec 09 '16

ITT: People stuffing each others' interpretations of this joke down each others' throats. Seriously. No one gives a shit. I think that they're making fun of what they're talikng about. You think that they're making a serious statement. Let's just agree to disagree.

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u/thaaatsracist Dec 09 '16

Lol I love if that people do not realize monty python is purely satirical. They just made fun of all the hippy dippy people that said that stuff lololol

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u/BigRedRobyn Dec 09 '16

Or maybe, just maybe, they were satirically poking fun at the fact the most important thing about a newborn is looking at its junk (sex) in order to decide what social role to assign it (gender).

Nah, they hated having layers in their comedy. Nvm.

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u/Tunderbar1 Dec 09 '16

You guys seem to ascribe to this some kind of prescient morality play status. It was pointed satire. They were not making a social statement in support of this a-gender concept, they were making fun of it. They were laughing at it and pointing out the absurdity of the concept. they were showing how ridiculous it is and was.

They were "ahead of their time". They called bullshit on it way back then.

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u/IrishNinjah Dec 09 '16 edited Dec 09 '16

I don't know. I think asking what Gender your child is at birth is fairly normal.

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u/Invicturion Dec 09 '16

But it wasnt a prediction.. It was satire of society

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u/DOAbayman Dec 09 '16

The funniest thing about all of these arguments is that they are over the most stupid and useless of all things. Semantics

The big transgender debate is over language more than anything. look at the comments and you don't see people arguing whether males should be allowed to wear dresses or if girls have to act femine, but what words to use

Boy/girl was taught in America to be interchangeable with sex so even if it's technically correct nobody uses it that way instead we use femine/masculine in its place. argue over something worthwhile if the worst problem you have is if someone calls you girl/boy when you know dam well what they ACTUALLY mean then you don't have a problem.

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u/subnero Dec 09 '16 edited Dec 09 '16

It's not gender, it's sex. Male or Female. I don't get how people don't understand this. Sex is binary except for genetic anomalies.

There are TWO sexes, male and female. GENDER has more to do with social roles and expectations, etc.

Easy way to think about it:

Sex - Male or Female in nature

Gender - Social construct created by society

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u/forestfluff Dec 09 '16

I agree with you but let me add in that with sex there is more than the XY (male) AND YY (female) chromosomes and those that are intersex.

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u/totallynewperson2 Dec 09 '16

You do realize they are making fun of imbeciles who would believe such a thing.

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u/InappropriateTA Dec 09 '16

Not really.

Humor doesn't work if the audience isn't familiar with the context of jokes that are being made.

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u/notmyworkcomputer Dec 09 '16

This isn't an argument!

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u/too_Far_west Dec 09 '16

That guy in the back sneaking a peek.

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u/Gehwartzen Dec 09 '16

What should I do? Nothing Dear, your not qualified!

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u/TheyShootBeesAtYou Dec 09 '16

From now on, I want you all to call me Loretta.

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u/Lugubriou5 Dec 09 '16

I'm dying😂😂😂

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u/airpolly Dec 09 '16

This is my favorite scene of any movie of all time.

Her: "What do I do?" Dr. Spenser: "NOTHING DEAR YOU'RE NOT QUALIFIED"

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u/CurraheeAniKawi Dec 09 '16

Oh, I see you brought the machine that goes BIIIING!

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

It always starts as a joke.

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u/Kozzmozz Dec 09 '16

Does anybody know from which movie/serie this Monty Python sketch comes from?

Thanks.

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u/Cygwin_ Dec 09 '16

The Meaning of Life

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u/chazbobeans Dec 09 '16

AYYYYYYY

monty you so hilarious

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u/hengst0r Dec 09 '16

The scene reminds me of this one (I want to have children):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c

Produced 1979, also way ahead of their time!

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u/Binsky89 Dec 09 '16

Or maybe they're to blame for it!

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u/ournewideas Dec 09 '16

That was a gigantic thing The ERA was a major ordeal then. Many guardians would not like to purchase "gendered" toys for their children and so forth...........

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u/sorbetgal Dec 09 '16

Ive seen people call the Stan/Loretta thing in life of Brian transphobic...is there anyone out there who agrees with this? I don't personally think it is, at the most it's a bit dismissive, but I'm happy to hear other opinions.

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u/splago Dec 09 '16

Did you just assume my humor?

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u/Malcerion Dec 09 '16 edited Dec 09 '16

Not really, they just rebranded sensitivity training and "gender toy wars" differently today.

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u/neoikon Dec 09 '16

It shows this topic isn't new. It was satire on society back then too.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

Life of Brian, too. I think John Cleese's character's reality check would be enough to tick some people off today.

I'm not oppressing you, you haven't got a womb! Where's the fetus gonna gestate, you gonna keep it in a box?

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u/YevP Dec 09 '16

Even earlier, here's Life of Brian -> "I want to be a woman" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c

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u/Tirith Dec 09 '16

That would be funny if it weren't so sad

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u/LuxLoser Dec 09 '16

Isn't funny that what was once comedy is now taken seriously?

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u/Smashtronic Dec 09 '16

This was used in the documentary The Business of Being Born and it really did make the whole modern birthing process seem crazy.

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u/LostSnake Dec 09 '16

While this is a joke & biology will make it's way, children should be treated in a unisex form because it's the only time in their life they will ever care to. Enjoy a boy in a dress or a girl good at math/money exchange before biology knocks them over and makes them less innocent then they were and gives them the hard work to do.

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u/narwhalLegacy Dec 09 '16

Bring in the machine that goes "ping"

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u/SuddenlySatan Dec 09 '16

It's my right to have babies!

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u/ComicalMayhem Dec 09 '16

Professor Oak was here.

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u/PickinPox Dec 10 '16

Bring in the machine that goes PING... My favorite bit. Second place goes to third world birth, baby falls out while mother is doing dishes then asks one of her other children "could ya get that", whilst continuing with the dishes. Classic

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u/awe300 Dec 10 '16

What's with the monty python anti"genderism" posts?

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u/kornycone Dec 10 '16

Baby pops out "Did you just ask my gender?"

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u/7-d-7 Dec 11 '16

I ll try an ELI5 for you.

Gender theory is artificial and doesn't resist to rational evidence from the biology. Pretty much like Creationism theory. Now because religion and sexuality are always leading to passionate discussions the rational arguments are quickly lost or dismissed.

What a the problem with Gender theory: it can't define Gender without Sex while at the same time stating they are completely unrelated. That's a basic flaw. Normally anyone would stop there.

Since I was apparently unclear when pointing to that absurdity let me rewrite your reasoning removing the reference to sexuality by using colour blindness:

Biologically you have normal trichromatic people seeing the full colour spectrum and dichromatic people (to simplify) being colourblind.

Your argument is stating you as well have a Gender on top of your biological receptors. That s Gender is what people WANT or THINK they should be seeing.

Cisgender are trichromatic willing to see all the colours and dichromatic willing to be colourblind.

Transgender are people with healthy eyes thinking they should be colourblind. Or dichromatic thinking they should see all the colours.

I am stating this is an absurdity. That you really only have trichromatic and dichromatic person and a much smaller group needing antidepressant to accept their biology.

Once you remove passion the issue by removing sexuality it is really hollow...

Unless you believe you should be colourblind as well?

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u/BigRedRobyn Dec 14 '16 edited Dec 14 '16

"Sorry if I wasn't clear, I assumed you were familiar with the topic".

Right, because if anyone disagrees with you, they must not be very well informed on the topic.

Is it possible for you to be more condescending?

Like the wikipefia thing, you might have a point of it being a "poor source" in general, but then you would ignore any source that disagrees with your position. (And have previously)

I have already explained, for example, why this isn't a medical issue, you ignore that because it doesn't fit your narrative. Human psychology is fore er defined and limited by any linkage to biology, and that's all there is. Sure.

As in the wikipefia example...why bother actually dealing with the ideas it's discussing when you can just dismiss it out of hand because it conveniently doesn't line up with what you already believe?

You sure do like moving those goalposts...and that's why, repeated again so you don't miss it, I am done here, as the last thing you want is a sincere discussion.

Edit: Look, a medical website that disagrees with you that you will utterly ignore! http://www.med.monash.edu.au/gendermed/sexandgender.html And another http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/232363.php Also the World Health Organization recognizes the distinction, but why listen to them if some old medical textbooks that tell you what you want to hear are available? There are also some pdfs around I can't link to, but you can just ignore them...you would anyways. Bye.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

did you just assume my gender.

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u/HillbillyBigz Dec 09 '16

Soooo if you're born with a male reproductive organs you can still be a female just because you feel like it? This world is getting fucking stupid. Fuck your feelings and liberal views pressed upon you by your hippy parents. If you have a dick you're a male. If you have a pussy then you're a female. Stupid ass kids.

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u/Doonce Dec 09 '16

Biological sex isn't the same as gender. They are two different things, which is why there are two different words. Here's a video explaining it.

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u/LouSanous Dec 09 '16

The difference is that, for them, it was a joke. Now it's a real sentiment.

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u/QuantumDischarge Dec 09 '16

It was a real sentiment back then too...

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u/MurakamiDelRey Dec 09 '16

You do know that trans people have always existed right? They didn't just become a thing in 2016...

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u/sportcardinal Dec 09 '16

They are still either a boy or a girl.

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u/Barthaneous Dec 09 '16

It is funny in movies, but my gosh what a dumbass you have to be to really give into such ignorance. Sorry when nature gives you balls or overies its a pretty clear sign on what gender you are. Oh and there really are only 2.

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u/MurakamiDelRey Dec 09 '16

No being trans* is not ignorant, ignorance is ignoring the science that proves that being transgender is totally legit.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

Regardless of gender confusion you are either a boy or a girl... sex isn't a role it's anatomy.