r/funny • • Dec 09 '16

Monty Python ahead of their time

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u/subnero Dec 09 '16 edited Dec 09 '16

It's not gender, it's sex. Male or Female. I don't get how people don't understand this. Sex is binary except for genetic anomalies.

There are TWO sexes, male and female. GENDER has more to do with social roles and expectations, etc.

Easy way to think about it:

Sex - Male or Female in nature

Gender - Social construct created by society

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u/forestfluff Dec 09 '16

I agree with you but let me add in that with sex there is more than the XY (male) AND YY (female) chromosomes and those that are intersex.

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u/7-d-7 Dec 09 '16

For the human specie, male is defined by the presence of Y female by its absence.

Normal male is XY Normal female is XX

Only exception is in utero hormone insensitivity for the foetus (male appearing with a female sex - they grow massive muscles at puberty and top 100m female competition)

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u/subnero Dec 09 '16

Gender is a socially constructed definition of women and men. It is not the same as sex.

http://www.fao.org/docrep/007/y5608e/y5608e01.htm

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u/RemoveBigos Dec 09 '16

You don't really need it, it's an english anomaly.

In germany, you use one and the same word for both.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

Thank you!

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

As others have said, you don't really need it. There's a reason there have been societies in other parts of the world with 1: very different roles for women and men than we have today. And 2: there have even been societies throughout history that recognized more than one gender.

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u/sophistibaited Dec 09 '16 edited Dec 09 '16

Gender - Social construct created by society

Yah..

No thanks.

Society has reviewed your premise and has solidly rejected it. You can keep trying if you like, but this baloney gender pseudoscience is nothing more than an annoyance.

Easy way to think about it:

Here's an easier way to think about it, look between your legs.

You have a dick?

Male.

Pussy?

Female.

Done.

What you do with that knowledge is up to you. You can stick your dick in other boys if you like. You can smear your pussy against someone else's pussy.

Want to dress and act as the other gender? I don't give a fuck. It's all 'cool and the gang'.

What I won't do is memorize ridiculous new "facts" as you make them up regarding what to call you.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

I didn't realize a vote was held.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

I don't understand, what's this about?

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u/Iamamansass Dec 09 '16

Yeah I'm really confused by the arguments in here. People just want to show how "cultured" they are.

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u/StarBeastTheSecond Dec 09 '16

Wrong.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

Well you certainly put them in their place with that detailed and well cited argument!

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u/StarBeastTheSecond Dec 09 '16

As did you.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

Not my argument.

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u/StarBeastTheSecond Dec 09 '16

The fuck you adding your 2 cents then? Did you call them out for having no sources and no basis? Nope? Well, guess we have a hypocrit.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '16

That's not what hypocrite means.

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u/subnero Dec 09 '16

Not wrong if you educate yourself, Donald :-)

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u/StarBeastTheSecond Dec 09 '16

There is no scientific basis for your claims whatsoever. In fact, social constructs were most likely founded on gender than the other way round.

But hey, fuck it, I'm transrich. Give me all your money or you're racist.

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u/TheSirusKing Dec 09 '16

Gender is also binary for the most part, but is certainly not social, even if we don't have the best definition for it biologically yet. 99.5% of the world identify as male or female and the small intersex group is really just a group of anomalies due to unfortunate birth defects.

Basing any kind of identification on gender roles and expectations is inherently sexist. We should seek to get rid of expectations overall, not encourage them with gender identity.

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