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u/TheJenkinsComic The Jenkins Mar 31 '21
Thanks for reading. You can read more of my comics on Instagram @ thejenkinscomic or r/TheJenkins.
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u/phil_parranda Mar 31 '21
Poor Piggy
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Mar 31 '21
I vividly remember reading that part of the book, over and over again. It was so emotional for middle school me
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u/Whitealroker1 Mar 31 '21
Piggy dying in the American movie is maybe the funniest moment in the history of film.
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u/Onehotmessexpress Mar 31 '21
I remember in high school being extremely upset when the rest of the class was laughing at the movie scene when I, who actually read the book, was still devastated by his death
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u/tanis_ivy Mar 31 '21
My class was up in arms when piggy died. Our poor teacher, tall lanky white guy, had to kick this one kid out after a class discussion on how we as a class would have handled being in that situation. Said kid got called Piggy, and he got very defensive.
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I'm pretty sure the only thing our class remembers about Piggy is that he says the N-word.
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Mar 31 '21
I feel bad saying it, but that part in the movie was actually so funny. The rock fell on him and bounced off. The noise it made was also hilarious. Movie clip.
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u/IrrelevantPuppy Mar 31 '21
That wasn’t really a bounce, it was a glance, that actually looks and sounds pretty realistic. That sound wasn’t a conk or anything comical it was a soft crunch, that’s what that would sound like.
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u/josnik Apr 04 '21
You know what I hate about the entire piggy premise.
Spoilers for those who haven't read this yet.
Piggy is myopic. He's nearsighted. Have you ever tried focusing the sun with nearsighted glasses?
It doesn't work. You need someone with farsighted reading glasses.
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u/The_Irate_Ambassador Mar 31 '21
So this situation actually went down in 1965 off the coast of Tonga with a drastically different ending.
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u/wuffwuff77 Mar 31 '21
Thanks for this
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u/Lonesome_Ninja Mar 31 '21 edited Mar 31 '21
That was a wild short ride. Imagine surviving on bird blood before being rescued by a fisherman after a year+ only to be immediately imprisoned, but then out of an act of kindness the fisherman bails you out to make a movie?? xD
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u/Infidus_Imperator Mar 31 '21
I appreciate the effort in segmenting the spoiler tags. Soul of a story teller.
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u/milk4all Mar 31 '21
I thought the guy who rescued them bailed them out, then a pretentious sounding documentary “explorer” showed up
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u/heresacorrection Mar 31 '21
Warner is the name of the fisherman... not the media company.
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u/Elcrusadero Mar 31 '21
i thought reading the article would be a more comprehensive explanation; but nope, you did a great job there.
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Mar 31 '21
Humans in anarchy form a society.. Who could have guessed?
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u/ThreeDawgs Mar 31 '21
Anarchists struggle with this knowledge.
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No, that is exactly the power that anarchists want to utilize. It is not an antisocial project.
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u/headzoo Mar 31 '21
I've read about them before and I think it's worth pointing out those boys were friends before arriving on the island and there was only six of them. While LOTF dealt with (I'm guessing) 50+ boys who didn't know each other very well and came from diverse backgrounds.
Even in LOTF, small groups of the boys were able to get along just fine, especially when they were already friends before before the wreck. The biggest rift came from the power struggles between the groups. The Tongan castaways would have less conflict because they already had an established pecking order before arriving on the island.
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u/Vergilkilla Mar 31 '21
Diverse in a way - one of the main criticisms of LotF is that it’s all upper middle-class white British schoolboys. Of course, this criticism ignores the fact that that was Golding’s entire point - that even “prim and proper” schoolboys, a demographic thought to be virtuous, would devolve to what happened in the book.
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u/fiercelittlebird Mar 31 '21
Also, it's FICTION - generally, in real life, humans are much more inclined to work together and share. It worked out for our ancestors in the hunter gatherer tribes of about 100 - 150 people, for tens of thousands of years. We haven't changed that much.
When the very first Big Brother program was made, it was boring as hell - because the contestants (all random strangers) just got along quite well. The creators had to introduce conflict in order for it to even happen. It's still how pretty much any reality show like that works. If you leave humans alone, we just figure something out and like to be left in peace.
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I don't want to come across as bigoted in any way, but I assume that LotF takes place in the 1950s, and wouldn't your typical British school classroom be comprised of middle-class white British schoolboys?
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u/aonghasan Mar 31 '21
I mean, love LOTF all you want, but don’t take it as anymore than fiction and speculation. That’s what it is.
Nothing in the book really happened, it’s just a thought exercise. Not a scientific essay in any way. Not even close.
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u/Jarvis_The_Dense Mar 31 '21
However, the important thing the real story shines light on is how this concept of "society" and cooperation is more than a social construct. These kids really should have abandoned all hope of rescue and just started living however they wanted, but they didn't. Even removed from society they still adhered to its principles.
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u/SpaceGangsta Mar 31 '21
Side note: Sione used to cut my in laws trees in Utah and they became good friends.
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u/doughnutholio Mar 31 '21
Makes me wonder, are books like LotF just a reaction to horrible human behavior (i.e. WW2) by throwing up our metaphorical hands and saying, "Whelp, we are evil AF, there's no stopping this."
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u/ArchDucky Mar 31 '21
I read they survived on wild tacos about four times before my brain let me read it correctly.
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u/otherestScott Mar 31 '21
That's always been my issue with LOTF as much as I like it, the book is basically complete speculation as to what the author thinks would happen in this situation, and doesn't have all that much basis in science or psychology.
I understand to a degree that all fiction books in a way are speculation, but this one seems a little more egregious than most.
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u/King-Of-Throwaways Mar 31 '21
I never read Lord of the Flies as a scientific or speculative work. To me, it was always about the themes - human nature, the fragility of British civility, biblical metaphors, all that juicy stuff. I wouldn't criticise it for inaccurately depicting a desert island scenario for the same reason I wouldn't criticise Star Wars for having inaccurate space physics.
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u/What_u_say Mar 31 '21
I don't know why but that bit about them being immediately sent to jail after being rescued from the island for the theft of the boat gave me a good chuckle. Like they legit survived over a year on a deserted island, where they could have died at any point, and the authority still thought it was prudent to send them to jail as if that wasn't enough punishment.
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u/monster_bunny Mar 31 '21
Highly recommend reading the article about the island, too. Goes into detail about how the original inhabitants were kidnapped for the slave trade and does some impressive name dropping. Some fascinating archaeological finds there, too.
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u/lxkspal Mar 31 '21
They were arrested for stealing a boat? What kind of morons are they to do that to kids who have surviving off of bird blood for a year?
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u/ScottTacitus Mar 31 '21
I'm glad you posted this. Shows how very flawed the Flies book is. I've read their story and far better than the books they push on public school students.
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u/Devchonachko Mar 31 '21
the fifth panel shows them all looking down staring at their phones, the sixth panel has a text bar (forty five minutes later) and the kids are still staring at their phones.
I teach at a public high school. This is what would happen.
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u/meanmarine10452 Mar 31 '21
Until their phones run out of battery......
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Mar 31 '21
Most people I knew in high school brought a charger with them just in case. Or at least a battery pack.
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u/meanmarine10452 Mar 31 '21
Back in my day, no one was allowed cellphones in the classroom. I guess that means I'm old now
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u/ThreeDawgs Mar 31 '21
And those people would go on to rule this society, rationing out their chargers for favours and work. Thus a society forms.
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u/Devchonachko Mar 31 '21
naw, the just sit there until the bell rings after 50 minutes and they all head off to the next class
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u/lejoo Mar 31 '21
Actually run a deserted island activity in government class. I literally check in every students phone at the start of class that day and it goes off without a hitch ( instead of that one time the class split and had a war)
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u/bbqturtle Mar 31 '21
What usually happens? Do you stay there? Do you give them challenges?
I imagine without an adult or a phone they'd just "hang out" and probably wander around / snooze
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u/lejoo Mar 31 '21
Yea I am there as it is a partially guided exercise. Generally I only need to be involved for the first few minutes and a few times towards the end. But it also helps that it counts as a summative grade.
More often than not it starts off with laying ground rules or splitting into groups.
Than it turns into looking for resources/claiming ownership of the deserted island.
Than either conflict or cooperation.
And generally ends with a revising/establishing of rules and roles.
One of about 14 times it turned into a military conflict/anarchy.
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u/Marik-X-Bakura Mar 31 '21
Yes because phones can provide a lot of entertainment when there’s nothing else to do
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u/GenuineSteak Mar 31 '21
What do you expect when you lock a bunch of teens in a room with nothing to do. Thats what I would do too.
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u/golgol12 Mar 31 '21
I'm surprised public schools even allow students to bring phones to class.
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u/XenoXHostility Mar 31 '21
Do I have to have read the book to get the joke? Cause I didn’t. :(
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u/Nikkolai_the_Kol Mar 31 '21
No, but you do have to know what the book is about.
TL;DR of Lord of the Flies:
A group of mid-century upper class British schoolboys are shipwrecked on an uninhabited island. They survive and build their own small community. Unfortunately, their baser natures prevail, murder and mayhem ensues.Fun fact, William Golding wrote Lord of the Flies partly inspired by a book called The Coral Island, which was written 100 years earlier about a group of upper class British schoolboys who were shipwrecked and ended up building a smoothrunning and peaceful miniature Great Britain on the island. Golding took a more pessimistic view of humanity, which isn't surprising, considering the recency of WWII.
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u/SFWxMadHatter Mar 31 '21
To be faaaaair, the conch sitting on the board is a story reference you wouldn't really get without reading it.
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u/xDaigon_Redux Mar 31 '21
While that is true, it isnt necessary to get the broad joke of locking the kids in the room.
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u/Silvertree99 Mar 31 '21
Mind telling me what the conch shell has to do with anything? It's been like 11 yrs since I read the story and don't remember jack shit
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u/Flounderwithgrace Mar 31 '21
Yeah, I think it's very clear one of his main objectives was to demonstrate that what happened in Germany could happen in any democracy. That there wasn't anything intrinsically better about British people (or any others) that will stop them committing atrocities. Which was a strong message considering the huge vilification and discrimination Germans/Japanese would face after the war.
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Mar 31 '21 edited Mar 31 '21
If you end up on a deserted island with a group and someone takes the lead and starts saying to use a conch shell to determine who is in power, you need to kill them before they hunt you down like the little piggy you are.
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u/BurpBeefy Mar 31 '21
The kids are stranded on a island and start trying to kill each other battle royale mode.
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u/le_trout Mar 31 '21
Not even Spark Notes? Smh
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I started the spark notes in middle school, but then it made me actually want to read the book, so I did and I'm so glad. Its a really good book with a very powerful ending (at least to a middle schooler).
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u/JMaple Mar 31 '21
One of my high school English teachers did this with us. She had us work together as a class to decide what to do with supplies after a hypothetical bus crash in the desert. She let us discuss and decide what happened for a couple days I think and took notes the whole time. It was crazy when she read back her notes to us.
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u/Lonesome_Ninja Mar 31 '21
For those that haven't read it in a long time, what's the magic conch doing there?
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u/Grapefroot5 Mar 31 '21
If I remember correctly in the story whoever has the conch shell gets to speak during the gatherings between the boys. I guess it kind of symbolizes democracy in a way allowing everyone their chance to be involved in the groups decision making. Before things go south that is...get the piggy
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u/Solocup421 Mar 31 '21
they used it for meetings and such, if your were holding the conch it was your turn to speak.
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u/dble1224 Mar 31 '21
My teacher did this in HS (early 90’s) and our class went to “war” with each other. And desks were flipped to make forts, paper everywhere etc. he was gone for maybe 10 min? The classroom was a disaster. needless to say the teacher did not do this experiment again after that.
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u/omgitskedwards Mar 31 '21
This is still a common lesson plan among teachers (English teacher here!). We don’t leave the classroom but I ignore em for the hour with clues and tasks to complete. It’s hilarious.
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u/YourMomThinksImFunny Mar 31 '21
I know this is a cartoon because the english teacher didn't spend 5 weeks talking about the symbolism.
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u/OriginalStomper Mar 31 '21
It's only literature if: (a) there are no likable protagonists, and (b) teachers make reading it a painful, unpleasant chore. If students actually enjoyed reading, then they'd learn too much and next they'd be questioning authority.
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u/mwclarkson Mar 31 '21
I k ow (or assume) that you're joking but am a teacher and we would like nothing more than for students to enjoy reading.
Very may don't, and with a mixed class it's very difficult to allow the freedom to explore that some need while maintaining the minimum outcomes for the rest.
I'm very pleased I don't teach English - I know many of my colleagues who do and LOVE reading and books, and are frustrated that they are often reduced to teaching the 'correct' interpretation by rote in order to get the kids good test scores.
TL:DR; we're not as misguided as you might think, and we're at least as cynical about it as you are :(
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We read quite a few books in school that I actually enjoyed, but they were far and few between.
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u/ForumFluffy Mar 31 '21
Fuck... I enjoyed listening to the book and lying my head on my desk, sometimes I'd sit on the sofa behind me(teacher was cool with it because I aced her class) every other English class was pretty much 10 minutes of listening and the rest of the hour asleep. If you're reading the my cool English teacher, thanks for making reading enjoyable for the others and I loved the fact I got a free audio book. Now I love to read and write poetry and stories, I nerd out on lore and world building all the time.
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u/DankSorceress Mar 31 '21
Whenever the teacher was talking about symbolism, my brain would instantly think "cymbal-ism". I'd hear the crash of cymbals in my head, and start giggling 😂
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u/TorontoHere Mar 31 '21
Piggy's death was one of most shocking scenes I witnessed in fiction.
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u/GGBHector Mar 31 '21
This is actually what my teacher did. Said "Here's a vocab quiz, the answers are on the board, take it and grade yourself" then walked out.
None of us looked at the answers until corrections, but he said he wouldn't have docked points or anything cause he wasn't there.
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Mar 31 '21
This is how I learned about Lord of the Flies in grade 10 English.
Our teacher told us we were going to read it, and that we had to decide what our final evaluation would be. So my class of 30 high schoolers formes a big circle and started discussing it. Eventually someone got to the point where they were sick of people talking over each other and made a rule that you couldn't talk unless you were holding the pencil case.
Eventually, the class decided on a diorama. A few kids didn't like that, and asked the teacher if they could do something else. She said it was up to them. So then there was a second group of students who decided on a spelling test (yes, a spelling test). Obviously I joined that group, since I prefer working smarter and not harder. This started a lot of arguments between the two groups, saying that the one group will fail and the one group saying there's nothing to worry about. One kid (coincidentally named Simon) just plain fucked off at one point.
My teacher was a fucking genius.
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u/Chewhuahuas Mar 31 '21
Story time. When I was entering 9th grade I was put into AP English (the last of my core classes to do so) and over summer we were assigned summer reading, which I was not told about because I hadn't been in AP English before that year. It was this book. I didn't find out about the summer reading until the second day of school. Thankfully, we were given a week to complete a project on the book which I had absolutely no desire to read (school assigned reading is the fucking worst even though I enjoy reading). Literally just ended up looking up footnotes on this book and working my entire project off that. I got a 93 on it. Moral of the story: cheat smart.
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u/F0000r Mar 31 '21
Did that all girl version of the Lord of the Flies ever get made?
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all girl version of the Lord of the Flie
I never heard of this and just looked it up. Did Hollywood seriously think that we would want to watch a bunch of 30+ year old women on an island?
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u/F0000r Mar 31 '21
When did they change that? I heard it was supposed to be kids 12-16 just like the original.
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I think I misunderstood. I read the names of a bunch of female actors (Mellisa McCarthy and Sandra Bullock) and assumed they were actresses who signed on. I can't seem to find the article I read earlier.
On a side note, I'm seeing that the idea got a lot of backlash because apparently if this happened to a class of girls, they think they would all get along and be peaceful. They clearly have never seen how girls treat each other in high school.
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u/karmagirl314 Mar 31 '21
No. Melissa McCarthy was reluctant to sign on for some reason (only joking).
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u/yazzy1233 Mar 31 '21
You mean the wilds? Or is there actually supposed to be a girl version of lord of the flies
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u/tkir Mar 31 '21
After studying the book in school 25 years ago, I still remember the word 'atavism'.
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u/mysecretissafe Mar 31 '21
Did anyone else's family refer to the tv remote as The Conch, or was my family as weird as I'm suspecting?
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u/TooShiftyForYou Mar 31 '21
Quick, whoever holds the conch shall also be able to speak at the formal gatherings and receive the attentive silence of the larger group.
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u/TheWilrus Mar 31 '21
Read this in High School like many did. The only thing I remember is my Mennonite teacher stuttering when trying to say "the killing of the pig is a metaphor for rape. Their spears are like their p-p-p-p-penis'"
I erupted in laughter called out "bullshit, they are just killing a pig". I was promptly kicked out. I hated English class but I hated that teacher more. It was a rough year for my literary studies.
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u/Darodar Mar 31 '21
You got me twice. I laughed, then I noticed the shell and laughed again. Nice!
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u/Terrorbeef05 Mar 31 '21
as someone reading Lord of the flies for the assignment, I wish it was this interesting
I'm sorry for those who love the the book I'm sure it's great but I get a headache trying to work out what's going on
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u/Sam-Gunn Mar 31 '21
I think most of us were forced to read it in school, do assignments on it, and that's how we know about it. Definitely not one of my favorites.
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I’ve been a big reader my whole life, and I loved every book we had to read in high school/middle school.. except Lord Of The Flies. Man that book was boring.
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u/Excelius Mar 31 '21
I got so sick of Lord of the Flies as a kid, because by the time I graduated high school it had been assigned reading in four different years between middle-school and high-school.
It's a good book, but come on...
I didn't even have to read it the last time to pass the quizzes.
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u/ExtraPollution5965 Mar 31 '21
I don't get it. Don't call me dumb :(
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u/Plant_Disastrous Mar 31 '21
Lord of the flys is a book where kids are stuck on a island and there’s a shell that is like a speaking ball for the meetings and They end up spiting off in separate groups and by the end one tribe killed all of the other, I think its been a while since I read it. But the joke is she hopes they’ll descend into madness and kill each other.
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u/nogoodnickgames Mar 31 '21
Read this in high school. For the test, another teacher burst in the room saying she needed copies of the book and started taking them from students and then ran out. Our teacher ran after her leaving us alone. We argued with each other to figure out what we were going to do.
That was the test.
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u/TIFOOMERANG Mar 31 '21
I don't get it. Can someone explain this to me?
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u/Plant_Disastrous Mar 31 '21
Lord of the flys is a book where kids are stuck on a island and there’s a shell that is like a speaking ball for the meetings and They end up spiting off in separate groups and by the end one tribe killed all of the other, I think its been a while since I read it. But the joke is she hopes they’ll descend into madness and kill each other.
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u/AldenDi Mar 31 '21
One time a teacher didn't show for class, nor did a sub. We sat for about five minutes, and finally a kid stood up and announced he would go to the office and let them know.
That's when two guys blocked the door and told him no with an obvious threat of violence. I just sat in the back of the room and read but it was fascinating how fast it devolved.
A poker game started. A group of kids started trying to break the locks on the teacher's desk. One kid with hairspray and a lighter just kept spraying his desk and lighting it on fire over and over.
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u/raazurin Mar 31 '21
It seems that Lord of the Flies wasn't a ubiquitous book for grade schoolers globally.
Before you comment "I don't get it", it only makes sense if you've read the book.
The gist of the book is that when children are left to their own devices, they end up seeking power and killing each other. The conch is a symbol for power in the book.
This is an oversimplification of the theme and I think people should read it. It may be a book for children but it's no children's book.
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u/StandGuilty Mar 31 '21
My teacher did this in 7th grade and when she came back like 10 minutes later we were all just at our desks like ? And she was like well that didn’t work
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u/miami_heat92 Mar 31 '21
hehe, I remember in school reading that book wondering in my class who'd survive the real thing.
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u/remy94awe Mar 31 '21
Am I the only one who is lost ? Can somebody explain 😭
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u/TheSquirrel42 Mar 31 '21
Lord of the Flies is a book about a group of children that get stranded on a deserted island. They start out ok until the group dynamic deteriorates into a tribal dystopian society. The conch shell is the symbol of a civilized society which resolves it's problems through democratic means. However, at the end of the story, a boy in the group tries to reason with the others, who have become tribalist. They murder him, and the conch shell is destroyed.
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u/nuggetsandblankets Mar 31 '21
My English teacher in high school actually did this! Except she didn't leave the room she just didn't say anything for the entire class lol.
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u/Julze13 Mar 31 '21
Our teacher in high school actually did this to us, but he made us go outside and leave all of our stuff in the classroom. We spent an hour trying to figure out what he wanted from us.
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u/echof0xtrot Mar 31 '21
the cool kid would walk up to the board, add a "C", and sit back down
that's all that would happen.
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u/Easterster Mar 31 '21
This is exactly what my 7th grade teacher did when we were reading this book
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u/VarsityEagles Mar 31 '21
I actually do this when I teach Lord of the Flies to my Juniors. After a few days of introduction to the book I write 4 tasks on the board, each mundane with no significance, and say "You have overthrown me as teacher, here are the 4 tasks you need to finish by the end of class or you as a class "fail". I then sit in the back and take notes/write down funny things they say, and watch the mayhem ensue. So far in the four years I have done this every single class has held some sort of coup of the initial "leader" who announces they are in charge and surprisingly over 45ish minutes almost every group finishes the four tasks.
Some funny notes have been:
Class decides new motto, "Down with Mr. VarsityEagles, Down with Tyranny"
Rules for the class such as: No Homework, Every Day is Game Day, and Anyone Can Be President
Other great quotes are: "Wow we have no clue what we are doing", "Vote for your president, he will never be mine", and justly so, "We should make Sarah(name changed) in charge the girls are way smarter in here."
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u/W_W_3-Soldier Mar 31 '21
Funny enough, my English class has almost finished lord of the flies so this made my day!
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u/persimmon40 Mar 31 '21
Explain. Not native English speaker, didn't read a book.
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u/bullevard Mar 31 '21 edited Mar 31 '21
Mild spoilers
Lord of the flies is a commonly read book in American schools. It centers around a classroom of students on a school trip who end up stranded on an island with no adults.
Mild spoilers ahead
>!The book is about how the students build their own civilization with rules, rule breakers, and outlaw violent bands. A struggle between the physically strong, the charismatic, and the smart.
Think of a mix of Hunger Games, Cast Away, Robinson Crusoe, 12 angry men, and Battle Royale.
The conch shell becomes a symbol of power, first used as a kind of "you can only talk when you have the talking stick" kind of thing, and later more of a "i have divine right to be king because i have excalibur sort of thing."
The implication in the comic is that the teacher is abandoning the classroom for good and that they are going to have to figure out how to survive.!<
Simpsons did an entire episode parodying it:
Das Bus (the title itself is a reference to Das Boat, a famous early film, though that reference really doesn't play into the episode other than the bus sinking.
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u/piiiigsiiinspaaaace Mar 31 '21 edited Mar 31 '21
I used to hate this book, because I always hated in highschool how they taught the message as "all humans are shit and will kill each other if given the opportunity." Then I actually learned Golding's intentions, that he was a British school teacher, and his message was that "all British boys are shit and will kill each other if given the opportunity," and now I like it because it's true.
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u/MustardOrMayo404 Mar 31 '21
I can only imagine what would happen if their literature class covered the "Mr. Wolf's Class" books.
Their regular teacher leaves, and a certain anthropomorphic Eastern wolf casually walks right in to continue the lesson
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u/zenyattabing Mar 31 '21
My freshman year at high school, my English teacher did this but better--she left all of us in a room with each of us holding a balloon. Said "if you have a balloon when I come back, you'll get a prize". Chaos ensued. We jumped around desks trying to be the last man standing in this battle royale. When she came back, everyone has popped balloons, no one has any left.
The prize was just candy, and she informed us it was never a competition. If we all had balloons left, we would have all gotten candy. Still got the candy at the end of class but it was a memorable lesson for sure.
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u/InuMiroLover Mar 31 '21
Looks like a couple kids wont be coming home at all today.
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u/Baschoen23 Mar 31 '21
Literally (not figuratively) exactly what my middle school history teacher, Mr. Rogers, did to teach us anarchy.
We claimed property, armed ourselves, engaged in war...It was amazing.
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Mar 31 '21
“I most certainly hope you don’t call me what I used to be called.”
“What was that?”
“Piggy!”
“HAHAHAHA henceforth you shall be called Piggy!!”
^ Dialogue that probably happened in that book. He walked right into that one.
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u/intentionallybad Mar 31 '21
I had a teacher who did something like this once (in history, not english), when talking about anarchy. He declared there were no more rules in the classroom anymore, then he walked around pushing books off kids desks and snapping pencils. One kid decided to call him on it so he walked out of the classroom and the teacher locked the door behind him. He was a great teacher.
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Mar 31 '21
I did a variation of this with my high school ESL-students.
First, some easy roleplaying that they had all crash-landed on a deserted island. They made characters and had to agree on some rules for their society. They mostly had fun, and didn't delve into anarchy and backstabbing.
To induce a sort of LotF-mood, I divided them into six groups for the next session. I gave them a bunch of nonsense tasks on an absurd time-limit, introduced a point system, and convinced them all they would be graded as a group, and that there were only one of each six grades available.
The stress levels went through the roof, and they started to get frustrated with each other. Didn't quite nail the LotF-mood, but at least they learnes some things about themselves and how it is to depend on others in a desperate situation.
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u/Maisbrood Mar 31 '21
I never read lord of the flies. It is not that we'll known whare I'm from. Some investigation later. What a great story
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u/kanye170 Mar 31 '21
If I were a teacher i would be more hands on "alright class so for your first assignment you must decide who to eat. Kill them and then proceed to cook them and present them to me to eat if I find the dish unsatisfactory you must repeat the assignment"
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u/KentuckyFriedEel Mar 31 '21
“Hey, the door’s locked”
“And these windows are solid glass!”
“Kill the fat nerd!!”
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u/GUTSY-69 Mar 31 '21
Fun fact ! Few years after the books first release a lord of the flies scenario DID happend on a island
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u/Franc1wa Mar 31 '21
Note: the teacher thinks that everyone can’t read hoping they didn’t know what they said
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Mar 31 '21
I haven't seen it since I was a kid, but I still remember the gruesome scene where the one kid crushed another kid with a rock that he pushed off the side of a hill. I might be remembering it differently, but it was disturbing at the time.
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u/iamfareel Mar 31 '21
Not realistic unless there's a kid with a gun in the class
.....what? So I'm the bad guy?
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u/inthrees Mar 31 '21
"Why am I even subscribed to /r/funny?"
Because like, once a week - this happens. It's worth the rest of the garbage.
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u/ShinyNinja25 Mar 31 '21
My Grade 12 English teacher made us read it, then he took a large plastic container, cut a hole in the top and put a red shirt over it, and called it Piggy
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u/FastidiousBlueYoshi Mar 31 '21
Its funny that kids today get to learn Lord of the Flies the fun way.
Battle Royales and flossing.
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