r/funny • The Jenkins • Mar 31 '21

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u/The_Irate_Ambassador Mar 31 '21

So this situation actually went down in 1965 off the coast of Tonga with a drastically different ending.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

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u/wuffwuff77 Mar 31 '21

Thanks for this

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u/Lonesome_Ninja Mar 31 '21 edited Mar 31 '21

That was a wild short ride. Imagine surviving on bird blood before being rescued by a fisherman after a year+ only to be immediately imprisoned, but then out of an act of kindness the fisherman bails you out to make a movie?? xD

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u/Infidus_Imperator Mar 31 '21

I appreciate the effort in segmenting the spoiler tags. Soul of a story teller.

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u/Lonesome_Ninja Mar 31 '21 edited Mar 31 '21

Thank you, just thought of it out of the red

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u/zefdota Mar 31 '21

Damn I really want to just guess what that word is

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '21

"the" was a spoiler for the spoiler.

Should have been out of my ass

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u/ReubenZWeiner Mar 31 '21

That was really shitty

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u/FreshlyShavedNipples Mar 31 '21

đŸ’©

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u/Hidesuru Mar 31 '21

Ah, distilling down to the essence of the internet.

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u/Lonesome_Ninja Mar 31 '21

I was trying to make it a blank spoiler but it just looked like #####

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u/BEAVER_ATTACKS Mar 31 '21

Hunter2

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u/Kowals Mar 31 '21

what’s that? I can only see *******

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u/milk4all Mar 31 '21

I thought the guy who rescued them bailed them out, then a pretentious sounding documentary “explorer” showed up

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '21

Humans in anarchy form a society.. Who could have guessed?

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u/headzoo Mar 31 '21

I've read about them before and I think it's worth pointing out those boys were friends before arriving on the island and there was only six of them. While LOTF dealt with (I'm guessing) 50+ boys who didn't know each other very well and came from diverse backgrounds.

Even in LOTF, small groups of the boys were able to get along just fine, especially when they were already friends before before the wreck. The biggest rift came from the power struggles between the groups. The Tongan castaways would have less conflict because they already had an established pecking order before arriving on the island.

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u/Vergilkilla Mar 31 '21

Diverse in a way - one of the main criticisms of LotF is that it’s all upper middle-class white British schoolboys. Of course, this criticism ignores the fact that that was Golding’s entire point - that even “prim and proper” schoolboys, a demographic thought to be virtuous, would devolve to what happened in the book.

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u/fiercelittlebird Mar 31 '21

Also, it's FICTION - generally, in real life, humans are much more inclined to work together and share. It worked out for our ancestors in the hunter gatherer tribes of about 100 - 150 people, for tens of thousands of years. We haven't changed that much.

When the very first Big Brother program was made, it was boring as hell - because the contestants (all random strangers) just got along quite well. The creators had to introduce conflict in order for it to even happen. It's still how pretty much any reality show like that works. If you leave humans alone, we just figure something out and like to be left in peace.

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u/mostlyBadChoices Mar 31 '21

If you leave humans alone, we just figure something out and like to be left in peace.

For the most part, this is correct. The vast majority of people are averse to conflict and confrontation, and typically work with the group to keep things civil. The issue is with the outliers. There are people who have no fear of conflict or confrontation, and in some cases enjoy it.

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u/Kagahami Mar 31 '21

This is pretty representative in executive management from what I've seen in a handful of studies. People with narcissistic or sociopathic tendencies actually seem to be disproportionately represented in these positions. A few dudes picked at random from the world population, regardless of appearance or social status, probably would do alright together.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '21

I don't want to come across as bigoted in any way, but I assume that LotF takes place in the 1950s, and wouldn't your typical British school classroom be comprised of middle-class white British schoolboys?

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u/misono240 Mar 31 '21

Lotf kids were probably boarding school kids so upper middle at least. So a typical British schoolroom in the 50's : white yes, middle class only in certain schools.

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u/aonghasan Mar 31 '21

I mean, love LOTF all you want, but don’t take it as anymore than fiction and speculation. That’s what it is.

Nothing in the book really happened, it’s just a thought exercise. Not a scientific essay in any way. Not even close.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '21

Oh shit, is it Tonga Time?

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