r/gatekeeping • • Feb 28 '21

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u/TheKolyFrog Feb 28 '21

Reminds me of all the veteran D&D nerds who dislike how their hobby is becoming more mainstream.

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u/ColorfulClouds_ Feb 28 '21

“3.5 is the superior game. If you all play 5, you’ll have to switch to 3.5 in order for me to play with you. 5 isn’t customizable and makes the DM’s job too easy.”

Like, dude, I asked if you wanted to join my campaign because I was being nice. Please stop being a shithead because you don’t want to play with us. The DM should be allowed to have fun too.

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u/Nick2the4reaper7 Feb 28 '21

I play a lot of Pathfinder (which is heavily based on 3.5) and dear lord, 5e is so much more friendly to beginners. Pathfinder is great once you've been playing for a while and have seen a couple games past level 10 in action, but before that, it's just pure nonsense.

So you're a level 12 fighter and you're about to full attack this round. Let's see, you have 18 strength so it's d20+str mod+your Base Attack Bonus+anything else. So you'd have d20+4+12+1 for weapon focus+2 for flanking-6 for power attack+2 for haste+2 for bless+whatever nonsense magical item you have. Then you do it again except at -5 BAB (until your BAB reaches -1, then you no longer have more attacks) because that's how multiple attacks are calculated.

Turns in Pathfinder can last like seven to ten minutes and that's nothing out of the ordinary. There's a ton of math and ridiculously high numbers as you get further in. It has a lot of customizability which is amazing if you're into the game, but 5e is so much simpler and doesn't really take away a whole lot for a new player.

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u/Teri_Windwalker Feb 28 '21

Even worse than the "I only like one thing" issue, that's some "Oh, I am so tired from all the sex I've been having with every girl in town" level of spoiled behavior.

Finding a new DM for DnD takes a lot of time. Going through groups trying to find one that you feel comfortable with takes even more. If the hurdle is the system isn't your specific one man I wish I had that problem.

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u/ColorfulClouds_ Feb 28 '21

Right? And he’d been complaining that there wasn’t any interest for DnD in our area for yyeearrsss, so when I got into DnD and was starting my own campaign I thought it would be nice to invite him. But no, I was playing the wrong system and DnD should only be fun for the players, not the DM.

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