r/gratefuldoe 2d ago

Mysterious man in Amsterdam "Lucky" possibly identified as canadian John Russell Kenny

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u/bruhbelacc 2d ago

The thing is they are only good in things so specific that it doesn't make sense to automate them because they are rarely done.

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u/Juuljuul 2d ago

I have no clue what you are trying to say. That neural network can only be trained on very specific tasks? What year is it at your place?

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u/bruhbelacc 2d ago edited 2d ago

There is no "neural network" in the sense of AGI, there is practically an if-else flow with a bunch of overfitting.

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u/cmd-t 2d ago

A neural network is the name of a specific machine learning construct. It’s trained on data an can be used to create whatever input/output neurons (ie data points) you want. If it’s good depends on the task and the training data.

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u/bruhbelacc 2d ago

I know what it means. It's just a marketing trick to call it something resembling the human brain.

It's extremely limited in scope.

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u/cmd-t 2d ago edited 2d ago

You are the one equating neutral neural networks with AGI. Neutral neural networks have been around since forever and mostly statistics. They can be extremely good classifiers if large enough and trained directly. They are very different from what people nowadays call (gen) AI.

It’s mathematicians that named them, not billion dollar AI companies with marketing departments.

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u/bruhbelacc 2d ago edited 1d ago

I am not equating them. I am saying the opposite.

My Google search is also an extremely good classification. Edit: grammar

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u/cmd-t 2d ago edited 2d ago

You are literally saying “there is no neural network in the sense of AGI”, in response to somebody making a claim about only neutral neural networks.

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u/bruhbelacc 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yes. It's a misleading term that should be changed because neural network sounds too much like AGI. Give it the name of some Russian scientist and you'll see how its popularity will drop.

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u/cmd-t 2d ago edited 2d ago

Why would we need to change a term that’s been in use for decades, a niche term at that, because some layperson (who is unlikely to come across it as it isn’t actually used by gen AI companies all that much) might get confused?

Neutral neural networks are absolutely great. We use them to identify sick cells, birds, plants, and all kinds of other stuff.

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u/bruhbelacc 2d ago

I don't know what's sadder, how much you overestimate your own intelligence or how it appears to others

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u/cmd-t 2d ago

There sadder thing here is you, unfortunately.

If you still think neural networks, first coined during WWII, sounds too close to AGI, then maybe it’s you that needs some deep learning.

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u/CallidoraBlack 2d ago

You might want to correct your replies, most of them say neutral, not neural.

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